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Hm I read all of you,
Greece is a very strange case,
Although lost at least 300 000 places of work to just 1 country, Bulgaria,
who wonders how many others in Balkans.
the things that IMF and EU suggest tend to loose more places of work,
Greece made a referendum which started with another question, and ended with another question, and stupidity,
Greece is tottaly another story, for example notice
that Greece has an army machine, that not even Visegrad with 60 million does not have,
ranking at a position that not even Germany has, although the last has military industry,
just think except Serbia, Greece has much military as all the behind iron curtain countries, now in EU,
imagine what will happen if EU dismiss an army equal to Italian army,
ranking at 4-6 place in EU,
Italy's case is very different,
Italy's problem is not the same with Greece,
in Italy the problem existed before their unification,
Only The things I read here, are enough to remind me another country,
The Yugoslavia, Yugoslavia before 1970's was a quite progressive country, and its president manage to hold back autonomistic problems,
but after 1970's when gave partial economical autonomy and priviladges, open the bag of the Aeolos and release the winds.
so by what I read Italy's system is just like EU system,
os they either run back to a confederation of States, either they must go ahead to a central fiscal union with no autonomies.
the main problem EU has,
as for the Euro,
Yes it is the No 1 problem with many EU countries and yet is the No 1 salvation for others,
But is not the only one,
for example just look at Eu with open borders, and free to travel corporations,
the succed of Greece for example was that manage with lower taxes to have such a military machine,
today by raising taxes not only lost industry and working places and money, but is in danger to lose the military balance,
Why? for example a central Europe country sourounded by Eu countries spends 3-4% of the tottal goverment income for military, whule Greece needs 8-9% (which droped after crisis)
So who contributes more to the most expensive EU industry?
you see every body can say what ever, or think just whatever,
but by losing Greece her army, EU military industry loses a good client, and the balance and stability in Meditterrenean can be lost,
the other factor,
the game among EU-Russia-NATO,
do we know and understand that major energy provider for Central and North Europe is Gazprom from Russia?
as also what kind of market it is?
just remember that 1 year embargo, some baltic countries lost even 70% of their exportations, etc etc.
So the main question is WHAT EUROPE WE WANT?
if Greece abbandons her army, surely it will be a prosperous country,
BUT WILL EU REPLACE THAT ARMY IN MEDITTEREAN?
and offcourse, the most easy to blaime Mercel,
Yes Germany is the main economical locomotive of EU
Yes Germany is possesed with an economical austerity
but that austerity is killing South Europe,
The main problem is not Italy or Greece or Portugal,
the main problem is in the mind of EU,
for example the ELM emergency liquid mechanism that started first timeat the times the Greek crisis is a foundamental mechanism for future of EU,
EU must start to build more unification laws,
otherwise will end with a civil war like USA at 1800's or with 2 EU's
the Euro balance the last 2 years is not against EU, by a ratio E/$ 1.1-1.15 is quite good, yet not competιtive,
but considering the killing 1,60 that was once, is much better.
We open a wide EU very fast, before stabilizing against crush tests the older ones.
Greece is a very strange case,
Although lost at least 300 000 places of work to just 1 country, Bulgaria,
who wonders how many others in Balkans.
the things that IMF and EU suggest tend to loose more places of work,
Greece made a referendum which started with another question, and ended with another question, and stupidity,
Greece is tottaly another story, for example notice
that Greece has an army machine, that not even Visegrad with 60 million does not have,
ranking at a position that not even Germany has, although the last has military industry,
just think except Serbia, Greece has much military as all the behind iron curtain countries, now in EU,
imagine what will happen if EU dismiss an army equal to Italian army,
ranking at 4-6 place in EU,
Italy's case is very different,
Italy's problem is not the same with Greece,
in Italy the problem existed before their unification,
Only The things I read here, are enough to remind me another country,
The Yugoslavia, Yugoslavia before 1970's was a quite progressive country, and its president manage to hold back autonomistic problems,
but after 1970's when gave partial economical autonomy and priviladges, open the bag of the Aeolos and release the winds.
so by what I read Italy's system is just like EU system,
os they either run back to a confederation of States, either they must go ahead to a central fiscal union with no autonomies.
the main problem EU has,
as for the Euro,
Yes it is the No 1 problem with many EU countries and yet is the No 1 salvation for others,
But is not the only one,
for example just look at Eu with open borders, and free to travel corporations,
the succed of Greece for example was that manage with lower taxes to have such a military machine,
today by raising taxes not only lost industry and working places and money, but is in danger to lose the military balance,
Why? for example a central Europe country sourounded by Eu countries spends 3-4% of the tottal goverment income for military, whule Greece needs 8-9% (which droped after crisis)
So who contributes more to the most expensive EU industry?
you see every body can say what ever, or think just whatever,
but by losing Greece her army, EU military industry loses a good client, and the balance and stability in Meditterrenean can be lost,
the other factor,
the game among EU-Russia-NATO,
do we know and understand that major energy provider for Central and North Europe is Gazprom from Russia?
as also what kind of market it is?
just remember that 1 year embargo, some baltic countries lost even 70% of their exportations, etc etc.
So the main question is WHAT EUROPE WE WANT?
if Greece abbandons her army, surely it will be a prosperous country,
BUT WILL EU REPLACE THAT ARMY IN MEDITTEREAN?
and offcourse, the most easy to blaime Mercel,
Yes Germany is the main economical locomotive of EU
Yes Germany is possesed with an economical austerity
but that austerity is killing South Europe,
The main problem is not Italy or Greece or Portugal,
the main problem is in the mind of EU,
for example the ELM emergency liquid mechanism that started first timeat the times the Greek crisis is a foundamental mechanism for future of EU,
EU must start to build more unification laws,
otherwise will end with a civil war like USA at 1800's or with 2 EU's
the Euro balance the last 2 years is not against EU, by a ratio E/$ 1.1-1.15 is quite good, yet not competιtive,
but considering the killing 1,60 that was once, is much better.
We open a wide EU very fast, before stabilizing against crush tests the older ones.