Highest "Baltic" scores in Eurogenes K13 / K15

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These two kits have probably the highest levels of "Baltic" admixture I've ever seen:

1) M344515
2) F215487

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1)

Milda Muciek (not sure about her ancestry, but might be Polish from East Prussia):

Eurogenes K13:

Kit M344515

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 57.73
2 North_Atlantic 25.58
3 West_Med 7.82
4 West_Asian 2.71
5 East_Med 2.56
6 South_Asian 1.08
7 Northeast_African 0.82
8 Oceanian 0.64
9 Siberian 0.57
10 Amerindian 0.49

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Lithuanian 4.81
2 Estonian_Polish 8.39
3 Belorussian 8.58
4 Russian_Smolensk 9.2
5 Estonian 9.77
6 Southwest_Russian 10.63
7 Kargopol_Russian 10.92
8 Ukrainian_Belgorod 11.01
9 Erzya 11.12
10 Polish 12.22
11 East_Finnish 12.5
12 Finnish 13.61
13 Ukrainian 13.91
14 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.44
15 South_Polish 15.61
16 Southwest_Finnish 17.58
17 La_Brana-1 21.43
18 Croatian 21.51
19 Moldavian 24.22
20 North_Swedish 25.3

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 96% Lithuanian + 4% Erzya @ 4.79
2 100% Lithuanian + 0% Abhkasian @ 4.81
3 100% Lithuanian + 0% Adygei @ 4.81
4 100% Lithuanian + 0% Afghan_Pashtun @ 4.81
5 100% Lithuanian + 0% Afghan_Tadjik @ 4.81
6 100% Lithuanian + 0% Afghan_Turkmen @ 4.81
7 100% Lithuanian + 0% Aghan_Hazara @ 4.81
8 100% Lithuanian + 0% Algerian @ 4.81
9 100% Lithuanian + 0% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.81
10 100% Lithuanian + 0% Altaian @ 4.81
11 100% Lithuanian + 0% Armenian @ 4.81
12 100% Lithuanian + 0% Ashkenazi @ 4.81
13 100% Lithuanian + 0% Assyrian @ 4.81
14 100% Lithuanian + 0% Austrian @ 4.81
15 100% Lithuanian + 0% Austroasiatic_Ho @ 4.81
16 100% Lithuanian + 0% Azeri @ 4.81
17 100% Lithuanian + 0% Balkar @ 4.81
18 100% Lithuanian + 0% Balochi @ 4.81
19 100% Lithuanian + 0% Bangladeshi @ 4.81
20 100% Lithuanian + 0% Bantu_N.E. @ 4.81

Eurogenes K15:

Kit M344515

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 41.5
2 Eastern_Euro 20.42
3 North_Sea 17.97
4 Atlantic 16.06
5 West_Med 2.01
6 West_Asian 0.9
7 Northeast_African 0.55
8 South_Asian 0.31
9 Oceanian 0.27

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Lithuanian 5.08
2 Belorussian 8.92
3 Estonian_Polish 9.73
4 Russian_Smolensk 11.13
5 Southwest_Russian 11.42
6 Ukrainian_Belgorod 11.88
7 Estonian 12.52
8 Polish 13.06
9 South_Polish 14.57
10 Ukrainian 14.66
11 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.08
12 Kargopol_Russian 16.23
13 Erzya 16.36
14 Croatian 20.02
15 East_Finnish 20.06
16 La_Brana-1 20.62
17 Finnish 20.66
18 Southwest_Finnish 21.88
19 Moldavian 22.23
20 Hungarian 22.95

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 100% Lithuanian + 0% Abhkasian @ 5.08
2 100% Lithuanian + 0% Adygei @ 5.08
3 100% Lithuanian + 0% Afghan_Hazara @ 5.08
4 100% Lithuanian + 0% Afghan_Pashtun @ 5.08
5 100% Lithuanian + 0% Afghan_Tadjik @ 5.08
6 100% Lithuanian + 0% Afghan_Turkmen @ 5.08
7 100% Lithuanian + 0% Afghan_Uzbeki @ 5.08
8 100% Lithuanian + 0% Algerian @ 5.08
9 100% Lithuanian + 0% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.08
10 100% Lithuanian + 0% Altaian @ 5.08
11 100% Lithuanian + 0% Anzick-1 @ 5.08
12 100% Lithuanian + 0% Armenian @ 5.08
13 100% Lithuanian + 0% Ashkenazi @ 5.08
14 100% Lithuanian + 0% Assyrian @ 5.08
15 100% Lithuanian + 0% Austrian @ 5.08
16 100% Lithuanian + 0% Austroasiatic_Ho @ 5.08
17 100% Lithuanian + 0% Azeri @ 5.08
18 100% Lithuanian + 0% Balkar @ 5.08
19 100% Lithuanian + 0% Balochi @ 5.08
20 100% Lithuanian + 0% Bangladeshi @ 5.08

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2)

He is R1a, and part of a relatively old Baltic subclade YP420 under YP237:

https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-YP420/

Eurogenes K13:

Kit F215487

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 57.94
2 North_Atlantic 27.93
3 West_Med 7.94
4 West_Asian 3.11
5 Sub-Saharan 1.06
6 Amerindian 0.92
7 Oceanian 0.66
8 South_Asian 0.36
9 Red_Sea 0.08

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Lithuanian 4.37
2 Estonian 8.82
3 Estonian_Polish 9.09
4 Belorussian 9.12
5 Russian_Smolensk 9.63
6 Kargopol_Russian 11.73
7 Southwest_Russian 11.77
8 Ukrainian_Belgorod 11.91
9 Polish 12.18
10 East_Finnish 12.37
11 Erzya 12.55
12 Finnish 13
13 Ukrainian 14.52
14 South_Polish 15.9
15 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.97
16 Southwest_Finnish 16.71
17 La_Brana-1 20.67
18 Croatian 22.26
19 North_Swedish 24.26
20 Moldavian 25.16

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 100% Lithuanian + 0% Abhkasian @ 4.37
2 100% Lithuanian + 0% Adygei @ 4.37
3 100% Lithuanian + 0% Afghan_Pashtun @ 4.37
4 100% Lithuanian + 0% Afghan_Tadjik @ 4.37
5 100% Lithuanian + 0% Afghan_Turkmen @ 4.37
6 100% Lithuanian + 0% Aghan_Hazara @ 4.37
7 100% Lithuanian + 0% Algerian @ 4.37
8 100% Lithuanian + 0% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.37
9 100% Lithuanian + 0% Altaian @ 4.37
10 100% Lithuanian + 0% Armenian @ 4.37
11 100% Lithuanian + 0% Ashkenazi @ 4.37
12 100% Lithuanian + 0% Assyrian @ 4.37
13 100% Lithuanian + 0% Austrian @ 4.37
14 100% Lithuanian + 0% Austroasiatic_Ho @ 4.37
15 100% Lithuanian + 0% Azeri @ 4.37
16 100% Lithuanian + 0% Balkar @ 4.37
17 100% Lithuanian + 0% Balochi @ 4.37
18 100% Lithuanian + 0% Bangladeshi @ 4.37
19 100% Lithuanian + 0% Bantu_N.E. @ 4.37
20 100% Lithuanian + 0% Bantu_S.E. @ 4.37

Eurogenes K15:

Kit F215487

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 41.37
2 North_Sea 20.07
3 Eastern_Euro 19.79
4 Atlantic 16.27
5 West_Med 1.9
6 Sub-Saharan 0.46
7 Oceanian 0.14
8 Amerindian 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Lithuanian 4.93
2 Belorussian 8.96
3 Estonian_Polish 9.96
4 Russian_Smolensk 11.41
5 Estonian 11.55
6 Southwest_Russian 11.76
7 Ukrainian_Belgorod 12.35
8 Polish 12.74
9 South_Polish 14.34
10 Ukrainian 14.38
11 Ukrainian_Lviv 14.82
12 Kargopol_Russian 16.47
13 Erzya 16.91
14 East_Finnish 19.6
15 Finnish 19.77
16 La_Brana-1 20.02
17 Croatian 20.1
18 Southwest_Finnish 20.99
19 Moldavian 22.37
20 Hungarian 22.55

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 100% Lithuanian + 0% Abhkasian @ 4.93
2 100% Lithuanian + 0% Adygei @ 4.93
3 100% Lithuanian + 0% Afghan_Hazara @ 4.93
4 100% Lithuanian + 0% Afghan_Pashtun @ 4.93
5 100% Lithuanian + 0% Afghan_Tadjik @ 4.93
6 100% Lithuanian + 0% Afghan_Turkmen @ 4.93
7 100% Lithuanian + 0% Afghan_Uzbeki @ 4.93
8 100% Lithuanian + 0% Algerian @ 4.93
9 100% Lithuanian + 0% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.93
10 100% Lithuanian + 0% Altaian @ 4.93
11 100% Lithuanian + 0% Anzick-1 @ 4.93
12 100% Lithuanian + 0% Armenian @ 4.93
13 100% Lithuanian + 0% Ashkenazi @ 4.93
14 100% Lithuanian + 0% Assyrian @ 4.93
15 100% Lithuanian + 0% Austrian @ 4.93
16 100% Lithuanian + 0% Austroasiatic_Ho @ 4.93
17 100% Lithuanian + 0% Azeri @ 4.93
18 100% Lithuanian + 0% Balkar @ 4.93
19 100% Lithuanian + 0% Balochi @ 4.93
20 100% Lithuanian + 0% Bangladeshi @ 4.93
 
Here are four Lithuanians who have even higher levels of "Baltic" at K13:

59.04 - kit T940605
58.42 - kit T751932
58.30 - kit T589878
58.14 - kit M333034
 
I was not able to answer your private message, don't know why. But this one from your Latvian/Lithuanian list is even more "Baltic":

Euro K13:

Kit A146377

Admix Results (sorted):

#PopulationPercent
1Baltic60.18
2North_Atlantic25.86
3West_Med5.87
4West_Asian3.75
5Amerindian1.6
6Oceanian0.85
7Sub-Saharan0.76
8Red_Sea0.42
9South_Asian0.35
10Siberian0.3
11East_Med0.05
12Northeast_African0.01

Single Population Sharing:

#Population (source)Distance
1Lithuanian6.6
2Estonian11.14
3Estonian_Polish11.22
4Belorussian11.24


He has also over 80% in Baltic hunter-gatherer component. Interesting peoples :)
 
And this guy is extremely "eastern" in DV3:

[FONT=&quot]Kit M085016[/FONT]

Admix Results (sorted):

#PopulationPercent
1East_European66.25
2West_European30.79
3Mediterranean2.96

Single Population Sharing:

#Population (source)Distance
1Lithuanian (Dodecad)5.05
2Lithuanians (Behar)7.71
3Belorussian (Behar)14.74

I would like to see how these people look :)
 
What's the "normal" percentage of "Baltic" to be found among non-Baltic Europeans? I'm 100% European-American. My people came primarily from the British Isles and the Rhineland. Yet my "Baltic" indicator seems--to me at least--quite high: 24.39 K13.
 
Although that Baltic influence may come from my mother's mother's father. He appears to have been of Prussian/Swedish stock...
 
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 50.29
2 Baltic 24.39
3 West_Med 13.41
4 East_Med 5.30
5 West_Asian 3.47

[FONT=&quot]Using 1 population approximation:[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]1 Southeast_English @ 2.164025[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]2 Orcadian @ 3.848805[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]3 Southwest_English @ 4.637319[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]4 North_Dutch @ 4.644568[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]5 Danish @ 5.089941[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]6 Irish @ 5.538270[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]7 West_Scottish @ 5.540809[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]8 North_German @ 6.762066[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]9 Norwegian @ 7.078649[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]10 South_Dutch @ 7.595938[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]11 West_German @ 8.955740[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]12 Swedish @ 9.270187[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]13 French @ 13.401077[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]14 Austrian @ 15.120565[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]15 North_Swedish @ 15.475686[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]16 East_German @ 15.558745[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]17 Hungarian @ 20.423645[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]18 Spanish_Cataluna @ 21.140036[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]19 Southwest_French @ 22.233803[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]20 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 22.316618[/FONT]
 
I think you look normally "British". It doesn't mean that you will have 0% Baltic if you come from Western Europe. Baltic is only name of a component that peaks in Baltic area, but covers whole Europe, predominantly Northern Europe. I think it marks mostly WHG and ANE ancestry that now peaks in Baltic peoples.
 
Kit M434508 - 60.31% Baltic in Eurogenes K13.

Syky said:
I was not able to answer your private message, don't know why.
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Sorry, my Inbox was full. Now you can answer it.
 
Syky said:
I would like to see how these people look :)
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Probably like some other Lithuanians and Latvians.

One of these guys with over 60% Baltic is Latvian.
 
Nevermind, I think that I am half American makes any of my posting of results irrelevant.
 
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Shouldn't the Eastern European admixture maps be updated. All of these kits score barely above 40% on dodecads eastern European admixture. I've never seen anyone above 50% yet the spreadsheet listed Belarusians and Baltic populations from 50-65%. It seems way off. A full Belarusians I know only scores 37% and he'svery typical for Belarus. Most poles I see also score much lower on than what's listed on the spreadsheet. I think the spreadsheet and the admixture maps should be updated, it's misleading.
 
srdceleva said:
Shouldn't the Eastern European admixture maps be updated. All of these kits score barely above 40% on dodecads eastern European admixture. I've never seen anyone above 50% yet the spreadsheet listed Belarusians and Baltic populations from 50-65%. It seems way off. A full Belarusians I know only scores 37% and he'svery typical for Belarus. Most poles I see also score much lower on than what's listed on the spreadsheet. I think the spreadsheet and the admixture maps should be updated, it's misleading.
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I would like to see a map of East European admixture based on Eurogenes K10:

http://www.eupedia.com/forum/thread...dmixture-in-Eurogenes-K10?p=505240#post505240
 
Yea makes a lot more sense , I don't know what dienkes was doing when he created the spreadsheet for dodecad.

My father's results K10
Population
South Asian 1.10
Caucasus 6.95
Southwest Asian 2.59
North Amerindian + Arctic 0.33
Siberian 0.77
Mediterranean 12.76
East Asian 0.34
West African -
East European 39.78
North Atlantic 35.39

Can you share your total percentages?
 
Sorry I'll post this in the other thread
 
Here are results for 8 mazovians



Eurogenes K13
North_Atlantic 27.03 28.33 32.93 30.11 27.99 32.02 30.13 30.66
Baltic 51.01 52.80 47.10 48.85 45.19 41.98 43.0 42.03
West_Med 9.04 8.70 8.14 9.17 12.31 9.48 11.61 11.08
West_Asian 5.41 3.55 3.60 1.80 5.59 7.55 6.50 6.56
East_Med 5.84 4.54 4.79 5.86 5.03 6.94 5.05 6.22
Red_Sea - - 0.91 - 0.98 - - -
South_Asian 0.86 0.76 0.86 2.73 0.22 1.18 1.85 1.02
East_Asian - - - - - - - -
Siberian - 0.69 - 0.10 0.27 1.34 - 0.97
Amerindian 0.41 0.08 0.05 0.90 1.89 0.48 - 0.07
Oceanian 0.40 - 1.05 - 0.25 - - -
Northeast_African - - 0.45 0.46 - - - -
Sub-Saharan - 0.48 0.11 - 0.28 - - -

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15
North_Sea 19.58 22.51 22.57 23.01 21.90 22.25 21.24
Atlantic 16.82 14.19 21.74 15.83 15.65 19.65 19.00
Baltic 34.31 36.69 32.10 32.31 27.27 25.41 26.94
Eastern_Euro 19.78 19.24 16.04 19.81 20.82 18.22 18.49
West_Med 4.87 4.89 3.21 4.85 7.82 5.35 6.70
West_Asian 3.52 1.75 2.23 0.06 2.61 6.36 4.69
East_Med 1.13 0.44 0.60 2.08 2.19 2.70 1.09
Red_Sea - - 0.53 - 0.65 - -
South_Asian - - - 1.58 - - 1.57
Southeast_Asian - - - - - - -
Siberian - - - - - - 0.06
Amerindian - - - 0.30 1.08 - -
Oceanian - - 0.75 - - - 0.21
Northeast_African - - 0.22 0.17 - - -
Sub-Saharan - 0.27 - - - - -

PuntDNAl 15
S_Indian - 0.40 0.22 2.20 - -
Mediterranean 18.82 19.75 19.34 18.91 22.90 23.07
Siberian - 0.18 0.84 0.39 - -
Wht_Nile_River - - - - - 0.11
Amerindian - 0.38 - 0.52 1.68 -
S_African 0.38 0.67 - - - 0.26
E_Asian - - - - - -
Caucasian 6.08 5.09 5.93 4.93 5.80 8.62
NE_European 70.74 70.43 67.93 70.52 65.10 63.87
Omo_River - 0.54 0.83 - - 0.51
W_African - - - - - -
Horn_Of_Africa - - - 0.50 0.95 0.42
Oceanian 0.73 0.07 1.00 0.06 - -
Beringian - - 0.24 - 0.26 0.36
SW_Asian 3.25 2.05 3.67 1.97 3.28 2.75
 
I got 33.53 Baltic on k13
and 21.75 on k15
 
My data
Ukrainian, Kyiv

Baltic
K13 - 45.8
K15 - 29.1
 
Syky said:
I would like to see how these people look :)
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VDMantas (GEDmatch kit M434508): Dodecad V3 East_European 67.60

And I found his photos:

http://www3.lrs.lt/pls/inter/w5_vaizdas.nuotrauka?p_cat_id=103333&nt_id=148789&p_kalb_id=1

http://www.lrs.lt/datos/kovo11/signatarai/www_lrs.signataras-p_asm_id=240.htm

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He is a politician and administrator of one of FTDNA Projects:

http://archive.is/2ov66

http://www.familytreedna.com/public/LituaniaPropria/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vidmantas_Povilionis

I never saw anyone scoring more of East_European in V3.

Except for Late Bronze Age Lithuanian sample RISE598:

Late Bronze Age RISE598 (kit M483824): East_European 68.58
 
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