Angela
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Curiously, I couldn't find any Albanian in R-U152 Project at FTDNA. It must be really uncommon around there.
Accidently, there're few R-L2 men from Corfu (and also Montenegro).
Whoever left R-L2 in that area (Gauls, Romans, Venetians etc.), the impact must have been little anyway. So apparently there are not "great" possibilities.
@shinyDust
Do you intend to test BigY or akin?
Indeed. From the link I shared:
"Venetian Albania (Italian: Albania Veneta) was the official term for several possessions of the Republic of Venice in the southeastern Adriatic, encompassing coastal territories in modern northern Albania and southern Montenegro. Several major territorial changes occurred during the Venetian rule in those regions, starting from 1392,[1] and lasting until 1797. By the end of the 15th century, the main possessions in northern Albania had been lost to the expansion of the Ottoman Empire. In spite of that, Venetians did not want to renounce their formal claims to the Albanian coast, and the term Venetian Albania was officially kept in use, designating the remaining Venetian possessions in the coastal regions of modern Montenegro, centered around the Bay of Kotor. Those regions remained under Venetian rule until the fall of the Republic of Venice in 1797. By the Treaty of Campo Formio, the region was transferred to the Habsburg Monarchy."
Yes. Perhaps we'll never have "the" answer. But as I suggested, if the connection is really recent, TMRCAs could occasionally evidence it, while an hypothetical old presence could be evidenced by Ancient DNA (if we were very lucky).
It's speculative, yes. That's why I said TMRCAs could evidence it. And "if" it's the case.
Welll, the guy asked what R-L2 implies about his (patrilineal?) origin, and I risk one. That's all.
We already have here BA tribes, Gauls, Romans, Venetians... There must be more.
Some minor historical events must leave genetic traces as well, even if at uniparental markers mainly, but it may be reallly difficult to track them, indeed. HGs such I1 in parts of (South) Italy could exemplify what you said, no? The related event caused an important frequency of the hg without relevant impact on Autosomal.
Exactly so. Look at the Montgomerys of Scotland. They're E-V13, which, if the stories of their origins in Wales in the early Middle Ages is true, makes some sense. Eight hundred years after the arrival of the male line ancestor in Scotland, are they any different from all the other Scottish clans in their approximate geographic area? I doubt it.
One of the clans is even reported to be E-M81, at least the "noble" part of it.
Richard III turned out to be G2a, which no one expected.
I don't see how it matters to their "ethnic" identity.