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lets see some facts,
Thyrrennian remnants,
Islands
Lemnos Tenos Andros,
inland Greece
possibly Orchomenos Boetea, Phtia generally,
kabeireian ancestry
Lemnos Samothrace and other Aegean islands,
Minoan and Minyan effort to occupy their dwellings
BUT
AT LEMNOS KAMINIA a kabeirian dwelling (Hephastos religion-miners/melters)
WE FIND THE THYRRENIAN LEMENEAN STELE,
the remnants of Thyrrenians at Lemnos are about same time with Dorian return
little bit older at Tenos and Andros, (Notice Athens change happens that era)
so what we surely know, is that The Aegean-Thyrrenian raise after Troyan war and stops with return of Temenides,
THAT IS THE AEGEAN-THYRRENIAN STORY,
as also the connectivity of Phokaia with Lemnos-Kaminia-Thyrrenian.
Myrina is more complicated due to Minoan Cretan and Iolkos admixture to the island,
THE POSSIBILITY THAT AEGEAN-THYRRENIANS TO BE CONNECTED WITH KABEIREIANS IS OBVIOUS,
BUT IS NOT CERTAIN,
CERTAIN IS THAT LEMNEAN-THYRRENIAN IS A BRANCH OF ETRUSCAN GREATER LINGUISTIC FAMILY,
NOW
Considering the PELASGIKON TEIXOS (Pelasgian fortification wall) OF ATHENS THAT IS ABOUT TROYAN WAR TIME
AND THE PELASGIKON TEIXOS of HEPHAISTEIA (ΗΦΑΙΣΤΕΙΑ) IS FEW CENTURIES AFTER,
IT IS OBVIOUS THAT
1 the termination ΛΗΜΝΙΑ ΚΑΚΚΑ (Lemnian curse-sins) as described by historians is truth,
2 The old Athenians with the new Atheneans after Doric era is not tottaly the same, rather old Atheneans moved to wider Attica or to Lemnos and other islands,
3 OLD ATHENEANSS WERE NOT IN TROYAN WAR SINCE NOT MYCENEANS (Although Telamona and other cities were)
Inetresting link about the Acropolis wall,
http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper....0199%3Abook%3D2%3Achapter%3D17%3Asection%3D1
http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper...0125%3Abook%3D6%3Achapter%3D137%3Asection%3D1
ΛῆμνονδὲΜιλτιάδηςὁΚίμωνοςὧδεἔσχε. ΠελασγοὶἐπείτεἐκτῆςἈττικῆςὑπὸἈθηναίωνἐξεβλήθησαν, εἴτεὦνδὴδικαίωςεἴτεἀδίκως: τοῦτογὰροὐκἔχωφράσαι, πλὴντὰλεγόμενα, ὅτιἙκαταῖοςμὲνὁἩγησάνδρουἔφησεἐντοῖσιλόγοισιλέγωνἀδίκως:
ALTERNATIVE
Homer describes a not known language at Lemnos
BUT NAMES THEM AS ΣΙΝΤΙΕΣ SINTIES
Thoukidides
Thoukidides which is one of the most trustable historians
a Possible brief
The archaiological remnants of Lemnos, especially the written and the letters
show a connection among Phrygia to Phokaia to Aegean to Italy.
The most possible is that the times of Troyan War Brygians the connection among Graikoi and Thracians moved to Phrygia
the people there find an exit through Phokaia to Aegean and Attica, and from there to Italy and Thyrrenia,
The dates of Lemnean-Thyrrenians are among Troyan war and Before Doric era,
THE TIMES OF SEA PEOPLES,
and is a good scenario, covering the empty spaces of history,
(or creates fog?)
SO TO RESUME,
THE CONNECTIVITY OF LEMNEAN-THYRRENIANS WITH PELASGIANS
LEMENAN-THYRRENIANS = PELASGIANS
is documemnted by ancient Historians,
BUT THAT DOES NOT PROVE THAT PELASGIANS WERE BEFORE MYCENEANS, SELLOI=HELLENES, MINOANS,
BUT
IF THE CONNECTIVITY IS
LEMNOS-THYRRENIANS = PELASGIANS= KABEIREIANS or kabiroi (Boetia)
THEN WE GO BACK enough to consider them as locals same time the Greek and Mycenean Ethnogenesis (Before 2200 BC)
lets see some facts,
Thyrrennian remnants,
Islands
Lemnos Tenos Andros,
inland Greece
possibly Orchomenos Boetea, Phtia generally,
kabeireian ancestry
Lemnos Samothrace and other Aegean islands,
Minoan and Minyan effort to occupy their dwellings
BUT
AT LEMNOS KAMINIA a kabeirian dwelling (Hephastos religion-miners/melters)
WE FIND THE THYRRENIAN LEMENEAN STELE,
the remnants of Thyrrenians at Lemnos are about same time with Dorian return
little bit older at Tenos and Andros, (Notice Athens change happens that era)
so what we surely know, is that The Aegean-Thyrrenian raise after Troyan war and stops with return of Temenides,
THAT IS THE AEGEAN-THYRRENIAN STORY,
as also the connectivity of Phokaia with Lemnos-Kaminia-Thyrrenian.
Myrina is more complicated due to Minoan Cretan and Iolkos admixture to the island,
THE POSSIBILITY THAT AEGEAN-THYRRENIANS TO BE CONNECTED WITH KABEIREIANS IS OBVIOUS,
BUT IS NOT CERTAIN,
CERTAIN IS THAT LEMNEAN-THYRRENIAN IS A BRANCH OF ETRUSCAN GREATER LINGUISTIC FAMILY,
NOW
Considering the PELASGIKON TEIXOS (Pelasgian fortification wall) OF ATHENS THAT IS ABOUT TROYAN WAR TIME
AND THE PELASGIKON TEIXOS of HEPHAISTEIA (ΗΦΑΙΣΤΕΙΑ) IS FEW CENTURIES AFTER,
IT IS OBVIOUS THAT
1 the termination ΛΗΜΝΙΑ ΚΑΚΚΑ (Lemnian curse-sins) as described by historians is truth,
2 The old Athenians with the new Atheneans after Doric era is not tottaly the same, rather old Atheneans moved to wider Attica or to Lemnos and other islands,
3 OLD ATHENEANSS WERE NOT IN TROYAN WAR SINCE NOT MYCENEANS (Although Telamona and other cities were)
Inetresting link about the Acropolis wall,
http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper....0199%3Abook%3D2%3Achapter%3D17%3Asection%3D1
http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper...0125%3Abook%3D6%3Achapter%3D137%3Asection%3D1
ΛῆμνονδὲΜιλτιάδηςὁΚίμωνοςὧδεἔσχε. ΠελασγοὶἐπείτεἐκτῆςἈττικῆςὑπὸἈθηναίωνἐξεβλήθησαν, εἴτεὦνδὴδικαίωςεἴτεἀδίκως: τοῦτογὰροὐκἔχωφράσαι, πλὴντὰλεγόμενα, ὅτιἙκαταῖοςμὲνὁἩγησάνδρουἔφησεἐντοῖσιλόγοισιλέγωνἀδίκως:
ALTERNATIVE
Homer describes a not known language at Lemnos
BUT NAMES THEM AS ΣΙΝΤΙΕΣ SINTIES
Thoukidides
Thoukidides which is one of the most trustable historians
a Possible brief
The archaiological remnants of Lemnos, especially the written and the letters
show a connection among Phrygia to Phokaia to Aegean to Italy.
The most possible is that the times of Troyan War Brygians the connection among Graikoi and Thracians moved to Phrygia
the people there find an exit through Phokaia to Aegean and Attica, and from there to Italy and Thyrrenia,
The dates of Lemnean-Thyrrenians are among Troyan war and Before Doric era,
THE TIMES OF SEA PEOPLES,
and is a good scenario, covering the empty spaces of history,
(or creates fog?)
SO TO RESUME,
THE CONNECTIVITY OF LEMNEAN-THYRRENIANS WITH PELASGIANS
LEMENAN-THYRRENIANS = PELASGIANS
is documemnted by ancient Historians,
BUT THAT DOES NOT PROVE THAT PELASGIANS WERE BEFORE MYCENEANS, SELLOI=HELLENES, MINOANS,
BUT
IF THE CONNECTIVITY IS
LEMNOS-THYRRENIANS = PELASGIANS= KABEIREIANS or kabiroi (Boetia)
THEN WE GO BACK enough to consider them as locals same time the Greek and Mycenean Ethnogenesis (Before 2200 BC)
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