May Day and Cantamaggio

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We still have places in Italy where people celebrate the coming of May by gathering in groups and singing songs to celebrate spring. I love this particular celebration, both for itself and for how it makes me feel connected to people who for thousands of years celebrated in this way.

This is a group of singers from a little town near me. Do people in your countries still celebrate May Day?

 
I guess one of the advantages of growing up in Europe is that at least some of the traditional culture still survives. In Canada, May Day is for labour unions, which is a good thing, but they don't have much in the way of cool music or traditional celebrations. Just cosplay about early 20th century baseball bat fights between union organizers and company thugs.
 
I guess one of the advantages of growing up in Europe is that at least some of the traditional culture still survives. In Canada, May Day is for labour unions, which is a good thing, but they don't have much in the way of cool music or traditional celebrations. Just cosplay about early 20th century baseball bat fights between union organizers and company thugs.


Politics has its part to play in Italy as well. Every May Day celebration requires the singing of Bella Ciao. I think its one of the first songs I ever learned.
Goodby, My Beautiful, Goodby.

One morning I woke up
goodbye my Beautiful, goodbye my Beautiful, goodbye my Beautiful, goodbye
one morning I woke up
to find the invader had arrived.


Oh partisan, take me away
goodbye my Beautiful, goodbye my Beautiful, goodbye my Beautiful, goodbye
oh partisan take me away
I feel as if I'm dying

And if I should die as partisan
goodbye my Beautiful, goodbye my Beautiful, goodbye my Beautiful, goodbye
And if I should die as a partisan
you will bury me up there, on the mountain
goodbye my Beautiful, goodbye my Beautiful, goodbye my Beautiful, goodbye
you will bury me up there on the mountain
under the shadow of a wonderful flower

And all the people passing by
goodbye my Beautiful, goodbye my Beautiful, goodbye my Beautiful, goodbye
and all the people passing by
will say "what a wonderful flower!"

This is the flower of the partisan
goodbye my Beautiful, goodbye my Beautiful, goodbye my Beautiful, goodbye
dead for our freedom
and this is the flower of the partisan
dead for our freedom


To know what it means to many people, however, this is a better video; it shows an old priest singing it after Mass, red kerchief and all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePP9AHrncjQ

Ed. It gets "rocked up" at big May Day events too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgzunxz8hs8
 
^ Italian version : good (yeah, I heard it numerous times in the Communist party :p)
English --// -- : not that great
 
In Greece we have general strike, where you have also people in the roads demanding stuff from Das Kapital. Typical though in Greece ...
 
But the real deal I suppose belongs to Russia ...

 
^ Italian version : good (yeah, I heard it numerous times in the Communist party :p)
English --// -- : not that great

Italian version? It's an Italian folk song of the early years of the twentieth century that was sung by the abused and tormented women who worked the rice fields of Northern Italy. The words were changed when it was adopted by the resistance fighters, the partigiani.

And for your information, although the Communists claimed it as their own, you didn't have to be a communist to fight in the resistance in Italy. Of that I am 100% certain. As for the version you posted, it's lacking in fervor, and it's also lacking in feeling and charm.
 
Italian version? It's an Italian folk song of the early years of the twentieth century that was sung by the abused and tormented women who worked the rice fields of Northern Italy. The words were changed when it was adopted by the resistance fighters, the partigiani.

And for your information, although the Communists claimed it as their own, you didn't have to be a communist to fight in the resistance in Italy. Of that I am 100% certain. As for the version you posted, it's lacking in fervor, and it's also lacking in feeling and charm.

In Greece it's known as a Communistic song and is always used by the Communistic party!

When you say partisans, two kind of people come in my mind: 1) The Red Army, 2) Jugoslavia's Jozip Broz Tito

This is today's Russia. Communism is not that powerful anymore.
BTW, I'm I supposed to know the history of the song? I do not think so. That is why we have Italians in the forum to inform us, right?

This is from old Russia (USSR)

 
In Greece it's known as a Communistic song and is always used by the Communistic party!

When you say partisans, two kind of people come in my mind: 1) The Red Army, 2) Jugoslavia's Jozip Broz Tito


From 1943-1945, Italy was torn apart by a civil war in which resistance fighters battled against both the occupying German army and the fascist supporters of the puppet Salo regime headed by Mussolini.

In September, 1943, the city of Naples was liberated through a popular rebellion. In the rest of Italy, the resistance groups were, in the beginning, various independent groups organized by political parties like the Communist Party, the Socialist party, the Action Parry (a Republican liberal socialist party), the Christian Democrats, other minor parties, former officers of the Royal Italian army, groups of anarchists, or even apolitical groups just determined to resist the invasion. (This is Italy, after all. To allude to the saying about Jews, three Italians, four opinions.) Later on, the CLN or Committee of National Liberation tried to exert some central control over the various groups. The numbers of these groups swelled with returning Italian soldiers escaping from German internment camps, escaping Allied prisoners of war, and young men trying to avoid deportation to "work" camps in Germany There were also, increasingly, those sickened by the German atrocities against Italian civilians, even former fascists. It's also true that some "bad actors" freed from prison during the chaos, or just seeking the chaos, joined the groups in the mountains. (The latter is heresy as far as the left is concerned, but it's true nonetheless.)

Depending on their political orientation, the groups took certain names. The Communist brigades were known as the Garibaldi Brigrades, the Azione brigades were Giustizia e Liberta, and the Socialist Brigades were the Matteotti Brigades, named after an Italian Socialist politician kidnapped and murdered by the Fascists after he accused them publicly of voter fraud in the elections and of also using violence to get the desired votes.

My area of Italy (both my mother's area of northwest Tuscany and eastern Liguria, and my father's area of Emilia) was, throughout the Mussolini years, very left leaning. Sarzana, in fact, was the last city in Italy to allow the Fascists to enter after the March on Rome. The anarchists were always particularly well represented there. It's not that there weren't people around who belonged to the Fascist party, but they were mostly bureaucrats who joined because of their positions. There were very few of the rabid fascists who could be found in some areas of Toscana or the Romagna, for example, although they had a presence in Massa. I think part of the reason is that La Spezia was industrialized so early, since it was a naval port, and most of the other people were peasants always skeptical of the fascists. We also had a well-established tradition of liberalism from the days of the Risogimento among the members of the intelligentsia and the middle class. My father didn't put up pictures of the Pope in our home. He put up pictures of Garibaldi and Mazzini. Most people, as I think is the case in most countries, just wanted to be left alone to live their lives.

At any rate, in this area there were Garibaldi Brigades and Matteoti Brigades, and also an International Brigade which was started by escaped British prisoners of war including one of our local heros, Major Gordon Lett, who established his base in Rossano, near Zeri, up near the base of the Apennines. There is a book about the International Brigade called Valley in Flames. After the war, the communists, in my opinion, tried to, and to some extent succeeded in obscuring the efforts of the non-communist and socialist members of the movement. They also obscured another unpleasant truth, which is that while most of the partisan activities were focused and important to aid the allies, some of them were abysmally stupid, calling down retaliation upon the surrounding peasants and townspeople just to blow up a couple of Germans. According the the Communists and Socialists, on the other hand, after saving the honor of the Italian peiople, and liberating the country, the resistance was betrayed, and the country turned on them. And so it goes with Italan politics.

Anyway, all of these groups sang Bella Ciao. It was the common resistance song, although apparently that's not well known.

I did look for some videos in English about the partigiani, but I couldn't find any. This video about Rossano is pretty self-explanatory, however. Oh, Spike Lee did make a movie about the resistance in the Garfagnana next door to us. It gets the atrocities right,but the rest is pure Hollywood...in other words totally made up. It's called "Miracle at St.Anna". A very good non-fiction book about the resistance in the Apennines and the atrocities committed on their supporters is called Silence on Monte Sole.

 
Angela,
It's fine. We had also civil war, but after ww2, as to who will take the power. Numerous attrocities happened there.

Your previous post though is quite elaborative. I suggest you be more laconic next time, if need be.

As I said before this is what I know about the partisans. Maybe they will have the name guerilla fighters, although I am not sure if they are the same people.

P.S. this name, Salo, reminds me of a movie, a very bad one imho.
 
And my grandpa remembers the war. He was a small kid back then. He told me that the Italians could not be compared with the Germans in the war. The latter were meant to do everything necessary to win.
 
In Poland after long winter people great spring much sooner than in Italy, at the end of March. A doll is made of straw which symbolizes goddess winter and death (Marija Gimbutas wouldn't be impressed), then procession takes it from village to the closest river, where it is burned and thrown into the flowing water.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marzanna
 
We celebrate Spring with a grand fireworks display at the grand harbor, but also serves as an opening for the long festa season that would go through to the end of September in every town and village. All set up for tonight :). However this day is mainly know as workers day. In a way Spring fest is more associated with Easter. On the 29th of June we celebrate an Agrifest were farmers show off and compete their agricultural displays.

 
Angela,
It's fine. We had also civil war, but after ww2, as to who will take the power. Numerous attrocities happened there.

Your previous post though is quite elaborative. I suggest you be more laconic next time, if need be.

As I said before this is what I know about the partisans. Maybe they will have the name guerilla fighters, although I am not sure if they are the same people.

P.S. this name, Salo, reminds me of a movie, a very bad one imho.

And I suggest that if you find the material in certain posts too taxing for your understanding, or that it requires too much concentration or time, that you not read it...just as I will not read another word you post at this site.

And my grandpa remembers the war. He was a small kid back then. He told me that the Italians could not be compared with the Germans in the war. The latter were meant to do everything necessary to win.

Yes indeed, they were willing to do absolutely anything to win...and Europe well remembers it, much good it did them in the end... they still lost.
 
And I suggest that if you find the material in certain posts too taxing for your understanding, or that it requires too much concentration or time, that you not read it...just as I will not read another word you post at this site.



Yes indeed, they were willing to do absolutely anything to win...and Europe well remembers it, much good it did them in the end... they still lost.

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P.S.1 Why this hostility? I find no reason in it, and I read what you wrote. But the point in the forum is to be laconic, to the point. If you want to write that extensively --- Spartans used to say that a person who talks too much tends to lie --- you can easily do that in a thesis. What you wrote can be easily reduced to 10 lines.

P.S.2 I really like the way you say that I do not understand what you write, I am able to understand far more difficult stuff than you probably, but you feel quite right to tell that in my face. But it's fine, I do not feel depressed because of this ...
 
First of May celebrations in Grand harbour Valletta

 

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