Meet a Syrian girl who came from Aleppo to WYD in Cracow

[Angela]

that was indeed another kind of immigration
there was no host, they fought there way in to get a spot completely for their own

No, there was a host. The Eastern Roman Empire survived for another 1000 years before being brought down by another set of barbarians. The Western Empire might have done the same. Ditto for the Britain of the Britons.

That's the pattern of history, in my opinion: the civilized core weakens and the people on the periphery stream in. If modern Europe doesn't want to go the same way it not only has to control the immigration, it also has to figure out what it does believe in and solve some of its internal problems.

 

[Maleth]

In those ancient societies you didn't try to change this host, you adapted to it. Unfortunately, that is considered racist on those poor immigrants nowadays, especially in western countries. You know the saying "When in Rome do as the Romans do"?

I am presuming with your statement that you are part of the first Nation Peoples mourning your loss. Otherwise you would not post such a thing.

[h=3]Forced assimilation[edit][/h]Further information: Canadian Indian residential school system and Sixties Scoop
From the late 18th century, European Canadians (and the Canadian government) encouraged assimilation of Aboriginal culture into what was referred to as "Canadian culture".^[109][110] These attempts reached a climax in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, with a series of initiatives that aimed at complete integration of the aboriginal peoples. These policies, which were made possible by legislation such as the Gradual Civilization Act^[111] and the Indian Act,^[112]focused on European ideals of Christianity, sedentary living, agriculture, and education.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aboriginal_peoples_in_Canada

 

[bicicleur 2]

what about this one :

[h=1]Why we need more immigrants, not fewer[/h]
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/why-more-immigrants-not-fewer-000000796.html

because there is a shortage of nail sallons and pizza bars in the US ?

 

[bicicleur 2]

I am presuming with your statement that you are part of the first Nation Peoples mourning your loss. Otherwise you would not post such a thing.

Forced assimilation[edit]

Further information: Canadian Indian residential school system and Sixties Scoop
From the late 18th century, European Canadians (and the Canadian government) encouraged assimilation of Aboriginal culture into what was referred to as "Canadian culture".^[109][110] These attempts reached a climax in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, with a series of initiatives that aimed at complete integration of the aboriginal peoples. These policies, which were made possible by legislation such as the Gradual Civilization Act^[111] and the Indian Act,^[112]focused on European ideals of Christianity, sedentary living, agriculture, and education.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aboriginal_peoples_in_Canada

no it was you yourself who started about anciant Egypt/Babylon

 

[bicicleur 2]

No, there was a host. The Eastern Roman Empire survived for another 1000 years before being brought down by another set of barbarians. The Western Empire might have done the same. Ditto for the Britain of the Britons.

That's the pattern of history, in my opinion: the civilized core weakens and the people on the periphery stream in. If modern Europe doesn't want to go the same way it not only has to control the immigration, it also has to figure out what it does believe in and solve some of its internal problems.

when the presure became to high they let in some tribes and made a treaty with them
most of them had the duty to defend the borders of the Empire against their fellow barbarian tribes
they had to stay in the area they were supposed to defend and couldn't move freely through the Empire

quite a different immigration strategy from what Europe is doing now

 

[Maciamo]

Here is a timely article by Pew Research which confirms what Angela was saying about most refugees flooding into Europe since 2015 not being Syrians. According to them, out of the 1.3 million asylum seekers who came to the EU in 2015, only 29% were Syrians. 15% were Afghans, 10% Iraqi, 10% Albanians/Kosovars, 5% Eritreans/Somali, 5% Pakistani/Bangladeshi...

The report is very detailed and spreads on 10 pages. It also confirms what I explained in the Brexit thread, namely that the UK and Ireland are the two EU countries that have welcomed the least refugees per capita in the EU. The UK accepted 10 times less refugees per capita than cold and distant Finland, which mustn't be the dream destination for all the hot countries refugees. So the idea that Brexit will prevent refugees from entering the UK is ridiculous as very few are already entering now.

Interestingly 63% of asylum seekers in Finland came from Iraq. The top nationality reaching the UK is Eritrea, but they only make 10% of all refugees, so the ethnic diversity of refugees is far greater in the UK than elsewhere, and very few are from Syria. Syrians seem to prefer Hungary, Germany, Scandinavia, the Benelux and Spain. They also make the bulk of refugees in Cyprus, Greece and Romania, but never exceed 45% of all new refugees.

In contrast, Slavic countries, Italy, Switzerland, France, the UK and Ireland have proportionally very few Syrian refugees.