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mt-DNA Nordic haplogroups

Cambrius (The Red)

Cambrius (The Red)

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Ethnic group
Gallaecian Celtic
Y-DNA haplogroup
R1b (RL-21*)
mtDNA haplogroup
H3
Which mt-DNA haplogroups are considered Nordic?
 
K1c2 , J1b1 , T3 are considered Germanic.
 
All K is Alpine. Believed to have originated in N. Italy or Switzerland.
 
I would have thought subclades of U like U5b.
 
23andme comes up with these if you search "Viking":

J1 - J1a2-16192
I - though rare now
T1 - " "
H4

In each case, they're being introduced to Scandinavia through Viking raids. U4a and U4b are very good candidates for being ancestral (per 23andme).


In regards to the J1 link...J1a2-16192...does anyone know how to determine if I have the correct allele for this Viking link? I'm classified as J1a* by 23andme, J by deCODEme, J1c3a if I try to calculate it using Jim Logan's paper on Haplogroup J:

http://www.jogg.info/41/Logan.htm

I have these results for cCRS 16192:

4001097 A or C C
4001099 C or T C

At deCODEme, there's a very strong pattern of Northern Europeans matching highly on one particular region on the X chromosome. My highest matches are a Swedish woman and Norwegian man, with high matching on the X.

Reference Links:
dbSNP Lookup
Google Scholar (SNP) dbSNP Orientation: Plus
dbSNP Genotype: C
 
It's hard to answer the OP's question because Nordic haplogroups are also found in the rest of Europe. Based on frequencies alone, H1, H3, J1, T2, U4 and U5 are all widespread in Scandinavia, but their origins are various.

Cambria Red said:
All K is Alpine. Believed to have originated in N. Italy or Switzerland.
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That's a misconception. K originated in the Middle East, somewhere between Egypt and Mesopotamia. There isn't a lot of reliable mtDNA data from the Middle East, but the 23andMe map shows that K peaks in Egypt (around 25%) and a study of the Middle East gave similarly high figures for Iraq. K, along with J, is one of the typical Neolithic farmer haplogroups. K is also found in ancient Indo-European populations (e.g. Bronze-age Russia or Central Asia where R1a1 was found), which indicates that Indo-Europeans probably took wives among their southern neighbours.
 
I took the test in Igenea, my mitochondrial DNA is J and the result I got is Celtic origin Europe, does that mean that in the Neolithic my mother was not yet in the Iberian Peninsula and arrived with subsequent migration to the Iberian Peninsula?
 
Frankly, I don't know why 23andme just list J1-J1a2, I, T1 and H4 as 'Viking'. U5a1a has been found in 'Viking' remains, and U5a1 has a peak in Scandinavia. Equally good candidates one would think..
 
Maciamo said:
It's hard to answer the OP's question because Nordic haplogroups are also found in the rest of Europe. Based on frequencies alone, H1, H3, J1, T2, U4 and U5 are all widespread in Scandinavia, but their origins are various.



That's a misconception. K originated in the Middle East, somewhere between Egypt and Mesopotamia. There isn't a lot of reliable mtDNA data from the Middle East, but the 23andMe map shows that K peaks in Egypt (around 25%) and a study of the Middle East gave similarly high figures for Iraq. K, along with J, is one of the typical Neolithic farmer haplogroups. K is also found in ancient Indo-European populations (e.g. Bronze-age Russia or Central Asia where R1a1 was found), which indicates that Indo-Europeans probably took wives among their southern neighbours.
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J1 mt came to Scandinavia from the Caucasus if you want the " near east " ... J mt is Indo Aryan found in the Kalash people and in Sweden Norway Finland we can say J1 is viking yes no doubt . That story that IE took wives among their southern neighbors is completely false
 
[h=1]Table 1[/h] [TABLE="class: rendered small default_table"]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]Individual[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Coding sequence[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]HVR-1 region nt16064–16405[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Haplogroup[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]D1[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]7028T, 12308G[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]16356C[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]U4[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]D2[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]7028T, 12308G[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]16114A, 16192T, 16256T, 16270T, 16294T[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]U5a[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]Bt1[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]7028T, 12308G[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]16179T, 16356C[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]U4[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

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Nucleotide substitutions and mtDNA haplogroups assigned for individuals from the Neolithic site Damsbo (4,200 YBP) and the Early Bronze Age site Bredtoftegård (3,300–3,500 YBP).
D1 and D2, Damsbo; Bt1, Bredtoftegård.

[h=1]Table 2[/h] [TABLE="class: rendered small default_table"]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]Individual[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Coding sequence[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]HVR-1 region nt 16064–16405[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Haplogroup[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]B1[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]7028T, 10034C[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]16129A, 16223T, 16391A[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]I[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]B2[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]7028T[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]16126C, 16355T, 16362C[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]R0a[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]B3[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]7028T, 12308G[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]16129C, 16183C, 16189C, 16362C[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]U2e[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]B4[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]7028C[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]CRS[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]H[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]B5[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]7028T, 10034C[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]16129A, 16223T, 16304C, 16391A[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]I[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]B6[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]7028C[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]CRS[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]H[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]B7[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]7028T, 12308G[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]16074G, 16189C, 16192T, 16249C, 16270T[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]U5b[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]Si2[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]7028C[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]16189C[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]H[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]Si4[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]7028C[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]16172C, 16311C[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]H[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]Si5[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]7028T, 10034C[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]16129A, 16223T, 16391A[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]I[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]Si6[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]7028C[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]16093C, 16221T[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]H[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]Si8[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]7028T, 12308G[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]16192T, 16270T, 16304C[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]U5b[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]Si9[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]7028T, 15607G[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]16126C, 16294T, 16296T, 16304C, 16362C[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]T2b[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]S1[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]7028T, 13708A[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]16069T, 16126C[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]J[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]S2[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]7028T, 12308G[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]16224C, 16311C[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]K[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]S3[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]7028C[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]16304C[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]H[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]S4[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]7028C[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]16311C[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]H[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]S5[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]7028C[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]16162G, 16266T, 16319A[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]H[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]S6[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]7028C[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]16299G[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]H[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]S7[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]7028T, 4580A[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]16298C[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]V[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]S9[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]7028T, 13708A[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]16069T, 16093C, 16126C[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]J[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]S11[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]7028T, 12308G[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]16093C, 16224C, 16311C[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]K[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]S13[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]7028T, 12308G[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]16343G, 16390A[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]U3a[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]S14[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]7028C[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]16263C, 16319A[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]H[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

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Nucleotide substitutions and mtDNA haplogroups assigned for individuals from the Roman Iron Age sites Bøgebjerggård (AD 1–400), Simonsborg (AD 1–200) and Skovgaarde (AD 200–400).
B1–B7, Bøgebjerggård; Si1–Si9, Simonsborg; S1–S14, Skovgaarde.

[h=1]Table 3[/h] [TABLE="class: rendered small default_table"]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]Individual[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Coding sequence[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]HVR-1 region nt 16064–16405[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Haplogroup[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]G1[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]7028T, 12308G[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]16126C, 16224C, 16311C, 16320T[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]K[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]G2[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]7028C[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]16278T[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]H[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]G3[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]7028C[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]16093C, 16212G, 16222T, 16255A[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]H[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]G4[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]7028C[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]16213A[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]H[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]G5[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]7028T, 12308G[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]16256T, 16270T, 16399G[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]U5a[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]G6[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]7028T, 10034C[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]16129A, 16223T, 16391A[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]I[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]G7[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]7028T, 14470C, 8705C[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]16189C, 16223T, 16255A, 16278T[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]X2[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]G8[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]7028C[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]16174T[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]H[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]G9[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]7028T, 15607G[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]16126C, 16294T, 16296T, 16304C[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]T2[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]G10[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]7028C[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]16172C, 16304C[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]H[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]G11[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]7028T, 12308G[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]16172C, 16256T, 16399G[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]U5a[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]K1[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]7028T, 12308G[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]16189C, 16318T[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]U7[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]K2[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]7028T[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]16129A, 16223T, 16391A[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]I[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]K3[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]7028T[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]16069T, 16126C[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]J[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]K4[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]7028T[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]16126C, 16174T, 16266T, 16294T, 16304C[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]T[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]K5[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]7028C[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]CRS[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]H[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]K6[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]7028C[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]16221T[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]H[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]K7[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]7028T[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]16129A, 16223T, 16391A[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]I[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]K8[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]7028C[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]16129A, 16316G, 16360T[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]H[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]R1[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]7028T, 15607G[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]16126C, 16153A, 16294T[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]T2[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]R2[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]7028T, 12308G[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]16093C, 16224C, 16311C, 16319A[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]K[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]R3[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]7028T, 13708A[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]16069T, 16126C[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]J[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]R5[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]7028C[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]16261T, 16296T, 16304C[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]H[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]R6[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]7028T, 12705T[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]16147A, 16172C, 16195C, 16223T, 16248T, 16320T, 16355T[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]N1a[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]R9[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]7028C[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]rCRS[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]H[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]R10[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]7028T, 13708A[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]16069T, 16126C[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]J[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]R11[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]7028T, 13708A[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]16069T, 16126C, 16256T[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]J[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]R12[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]7028T, 10034C[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]12129A, 16223T, 16391A[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]I[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]R13[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]7028T, 12308G[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]16189C, 16192T, 16270T, 16398A[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]U5b[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

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Tabel 3. Nucleotide substitutions and mtDNA haplogroups assigned for individuals from the Viking Age burial sites Galgedil (AD 1000), the Christian cemetery Kongemarken (AD 1000–1250) and the medieval cemetery Riisby (AD 1250–1450).
G1–G11, Galgedil; K1–K8, Kongemarken; R1–R13, Riisby.
 
Just out of curiousity, do any of you know who may have brought T2B into Iberia? like what tribe/group of people may have done so?
 
J1c is Germanic-Nordic? Mine is Irish-Celtic. Hey, maybe one stowed away in a Viking ship and made it to Waterford...would explain why my mother's maternal grandmother was such a light blonde.
 
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