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Another important observation is the link these Iron age samples have to future samples, like the Imperial era. Samples that the study tries to argue changed Rome in the Imperial era.

Well I guess the fact that Latins from the previous eras get those samples too, confounds that narrative.
 
Salento said:
R1 get R120 (y T1a2 - T-L446) in the Top 100, what about you ???

R850 (also a y T), R437 and I do Not get R120 in the top 100.

https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/38222-Mytrueancestry-com?p=593611&viewfull=1#post593611
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R120 .............I do not get in my top 100

CL23 the other T ydna is my #14 ...........................I do not know why they state this as iberian, when he is born in bulgaria, raised in Pannonia and died in Italy ..........maybe his mum is iberian



do you get this below from Sochi russia


52. Thraco-Cimmerian Black Sea (900 BC) ..... 15.89 - MJ12 -
Top 97% match vs all users

 
Jovialis said:
Idk, but R1 gets only R437 in the Republican era, and not to any others from the Iron age samples.

R1 also has a relatively strong affinity to Scythians and Illyrians.

850 has a relatively strong affinity to copper age Anatolia; in the study, it says it can form a clade with it.

Among those three samples, I noticed only 437 has a link to the Sicily Beaker in the Bronze Age.
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Yes, R1 is very strong with Scythians, Illyrians and Thracians ............I get all Dalmatians and all Scythians ( moldova )

I get zero samples with Anatolia or levant ( except a crusader from 1000AD )
 
Another interesting observation is that the Latin Prenestini R437 has a relatively strong affinity to the Imperial Prenestini R436; as do I.
 
torzio said:
R120 .............I do not get in my top 100

CL23 the other T ydna is my #14 ...........................I do not know why they state this as iberian, when he is born in bulgaria, raised in Pannonia and died in Italy ..........maybe his mum is iberian



do you get this below from Sochi russia


52. Thraco-Cimmerian Black Sea (900 BC) ..... 15.89 - MJ12 -
Top 97% match vs all users
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I do not, I get this instead:

zlXnRlC.jpg


CXPrKHK.jpg
 
Salento said:
I do not, I get this instead:
zlXnRlC.jpg

CXPrKHK.jpg
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seems like in MTA......you went to europe via south of the black sea .......and I , north of the black sea


i only get this

32. Proto Thracian/Illyrian Vucedol (2775 BC) ..... 14.31 - I3499 -
Top 98% match vs all users


the sochi one

and one from 900BC

these are the Thracians I get


 
torzio said:
Yes, R1 is very strong with Scythians, Illyrians and Thracians ............I get all Dalmatians and all Scythians ( moldova )

I get zero samples with Anatolia or levant ( except a crusader from 1000AD )
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I do not get any Greek or southern balkans either in anything in MTA .........


I get this in my heritage
Ethnicity EstimateYou have 3 ethnicities
Italian 70.2%

Balkan 15.6%

Irish, Scottish, and Welsh 14.2%
 
torzio said:
R120 .............I do not get in my top 100

CL23 the other T ydna is my #14 ...........................I do not know why they state this as iberian, when he is born in bulgaria, raised in Pannonia and died in Italy ..........maybe his mum is iberian



do you get this below from Sochi russia


52. Thraco-Cimmerian Black Sea (900 BC) ..... 15.89 - MJ12 -
Top 97% match vs all users
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R120 has the following positive SNP's....L131, Y6033, FGC23008, Z19913 and 18 others

he sits here
https://www.yfull.com/branch-info/T-Y6033/#t1-tab
 
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What are your OUTLIERS ......and do they have reflection on your migrational path


[h=3]Your Outlier Samples...[/h][h=6](These are the most genetically unique among your broader matching samples)[/h]
Outlier.jpg
137. Western-Scythian Black Sea (290 BC) ..... 22.07 - MJ34 -
Top 39% match vs all users


162. Ostrogoth Frankish Mix (410 AD) ..... 23.53 - STR_328 -
Top 42% match vs all users

166. Scythian Ukraine (600 BC) ..... 23.71 - scy010 -
Top 46% match vs all users

169. Germanic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 23.96 - SZ42 -
Top 28% match vs all users

 
My #1 sample, below, slightly increased the Total cM


Protovillanovia Martinsicuro

930 BC

R1

mtDNA: [Upgrade to see]
Total cM=88.26
Largest segment=14.43 cM (7 shared. Sample quality: 94) - Your raw DNA is 85% closer than other matching users

Chr. 5
11.3 cM

Chr. 6
26.19 cM

Chr. 7
14.07 cM

Chr. 8
10.67 cM

Chr. 11
11.58 cM

Chr. 20
14.43 cM






 
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I don't understand --- if we can only detect family relations out to 4-5th cousins --- how can true-ancestry claim to detect it so far back? Isn't it more just a case of "you have roughly same ethnicity-make-up as this ancient person"
 
Yinwang888 said:
I don't understand --- if we can only detect family relations out to 4-5th cousins --- how can true-ancestry claim to detect it so far back? Isn't it more just a case of "you have roughly same ethnicity-make-up as this ancient person"
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Yes, exactly. I can play in K15 Ancient (http://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/k15ancient-vahaduo.htm) for fun with my results compared to ancients but not to take it seriously that I'm straight descendant of Av2 or Sunghir sample, this is just similarity... The same situation is with MTA results:)

Moreover it was proven many times that especially deep dive is unreliable or at least cM values are few times higher than it should be.
 
1. Bell Beaker Haunstetten Germany (2385 BC) ..... 3.586 - UNTA58_68Sk1 -
Top
100​
% match vs all users

2. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (990 AD) ..... 4.463 - R63 -
Top
100​
% match vs all users

3. Roman Soldier Freiham-Nord Germany (300 AD) ..... 5.479 - FN_2
Top
99​
% match vs all users

4. Visigoth Iberian Girona (550 AD) ..... 5.576 - I12034 -
Top
99​
% match vs all users

22. Le Mans Revolutionary France (1793 AD) ..... 9.459 - LM_406_T -
Top
99​
% match vs all users



The sample R474 is practically me in relation to my own kit.

The Etruscan samples also have stutters in the 200 examples, perhaps there are no segments for the quality of the samples.

81. Tartessian Archaic Andalusia (600 BC) ..... 14.6 - I12561 -
Top
99​
% match vs all users

103. Tartessian Archaic Andalusia (600 BC) ..... 16.13 - I12171 -
Top
99​
% match vs all users

150. Bronze Age Loma del Puerco (1800 BC) ..... 19.49 - I7162 -
Top
99​
% match vs all users

R74

R74etrusco.jpg

Mine

MINEdonutoDNAY.JPEG


R74 mtDNA

mtdnaR74.JPEG


Mine

Minemtdna.JPEG


Sorry romans But nothing is for ever. Maybe you came to believe that it was all over with us but in fact it had just started lol
 
3. Etruscan Civitavecchia (650 BC) ..... 9.714 - R474 - Similar Samples:

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Some related to R474 with details:

OjqdegB.png

xufGUuG.png

E7wdeWk.png
 
Salento said:
my Roman Era Iberia:
Axp8SgR.jpg




Deep Dive Map:
mWJuzG8.jpg
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Yes, I guess they liked the climate. :) The one from the Roman Villa in Tarragona is intriguing. I like Tarragona, nice city, and nice amphitheater, too. I like Catalonia as a whole a lot, feel very "at home" there.

Roman-Amphitheatre-Tarragona.jpg


1ltWlSV.png


Ah, wait, two other villa ones from the south as well. So, settlers probably, not just merchants or whatever.

@Carlos,
Getting a bit rude, aren't we?
 
Carlos said:


Sorry romans But nothing is for ever. Maybe you came to believe that it was all over with us but in fact it had just started lol
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I'm starting to find that these values are wrong. For example, R1548 is supposed to be my number 1 on MTA, but it is far from it. Currently R973 is my number on the Dodecad K12b version I am compiling on mlukas's site.

Northern Italians are actually closer to most Latins and Etruscans samples, than Spaniards:

Example:

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]IA_Latin_Ardea_R851[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #65FF00, align: right"]2.98306889[/TD]
[TD]IA_Boville_Ernica_R1021[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #BCFF00, align: right"]5.54009928[/TD]
[TD]IA_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia_R1015[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CDFF00, align: right"]6.03394564[/TD]
[TD]IA_Castel_di_Decima_R1016[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D6FF00, align: right"]6.29099356[/TD]
[TD]IA_Civitavecchia_R473[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE700, align: right"]8.21318452[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE200, align: right"]8.35141305[/TD]
[TD]Baleares[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFCC00, align: right"]8.99323635[/TD]
[TD]IA_Latin_Prenestina_Colombella_R435[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFA200, align: right"]10.23018573[/TD]
[TD]N_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF8000, align: right"]11.22772016[/TD]
[TD]Galicia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF7000, align: right"]11.69795281[/TD]
[TD]Spaniards[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF5600, align: right"]12.46485459[/TD]
[TD]IA_Civitavecchia_R474[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF5500, align: right"]12.50926457[/TD]
[TD]Extremadura[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF5300, align: right"]12.55556052[/TD]
[TD]Castilla_Y_Leon[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF5100, align: right"]12.62493168[/TD]
[TD]Andalucia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF4900, align: right"]12.85807528[/TD]
[TD]Murcia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF4700, align: right"]12.91240102[/TD]
[TD]Cataluna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF3200, align: right"]13.51998891[/TD]
[TD]Cantabria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF3200, align: right"]13.52852172[/TD]
[TD]Valencia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF2E00, align: right"]13.65238807[/TD]
[TD]Spanish[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF2800, align: right"]13.82596109[/TD]
[TD]Portuguese[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF1100, align: right"]14.50117581[/TD]
[TD]Castilla_La_Mancha[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0A00, align: right"]14.70424769[/TD]
[TD]Aragon[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF001B, align: right"]15.78121351[/TD]
[TD]IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0020, align: right"]15.92883863[/TD]
[TD]TSI30[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0035, align: right"]16.54642257[/TD]
[TD]Canarias[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]IA_Civitavecchia_R473[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #6FFF00, align: right"]3.27873451[/TD]
[TD]IA_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia_R1015[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C5FF00, align: right"]5.78160877[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CAFF00, align: right"]5.95183165[/TD]
[TD]IA_Castel_di_Decima_R1016[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D6FF00, align: right"]6.29099356[/TD]
[TD]IA_Latin_Ardea_R851[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E7FF00, align: right"]6.78988218[/TD]
[TD]IA_Boville_Ernica_R1021[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE100, align: right"]8.38279786[/TD]
[TD]N_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD000, align: right"]8.87318996[/TD]
[TD]Baleares[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFA200, align: right"]10.23676218[/TD]
[TD]IA_Latin_Prenestina_Colombella_R435[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF8900, align: right"]10.98056465[/TD]
[TD]IA_Civitavecchia_R474[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF8300, align: right"]11.14162017[/TD]
[TD]Galicia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF5A00, align: right"]12.35530251[/TD]
[TD]Murcia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF4A00, align: right"]12.82465984[/TD]
[TD]Extremadura[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF4200, align: right"]13.07071153[/TD]
[TD]Spaniards[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF4000, align: right"]13.12059831[/TD]
[TD]TSI30[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF3800, align: right"]13.36231642[/TD]
[TD]Andalucia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF3600, align: right"]13.40997763[/TD]
[TD]Castilla_Y_Leon[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF2800, align: right"]13.81376849[/TD]
[TD]Portuguese[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF1800, align: right"]14.28975507[/TD]
[TD]IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF1400, align: right"]14.40643953[/TD]
[TD]Cataluna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0B00, align: right"]14.67480494[/TD]
[TD]Spanish[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0002, align: right"]15.05738689[/TD]
[TD]Tuscan[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0008, align: right"]15.22069315[/TD]
[TD]Cantabria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0008, align: right"]15.23212067[/TD]
[TD]Castilla_La_Mancha[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF000D, align: right"]15.39107858[/TD]
[TD]Valencia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF002B, align: right"]16.25906824[/TD]
[TD]Aragon[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]IA_Boville_Ernica_R1021[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #65FF00, align: right"]2.98306889[/TD]
[TD]IA_Latin_Ardea_R851[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #ABFF00, align: right"]5.03751923[/TD]
[TD]IA_Castel_di_Decima_R1016[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #AFFF00, align: right"]5.14806760[/TD]
[TD]IA_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia_R1015[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E6FF00, align: right"]6.75586412[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E7FF00, align: right"]6.78988218[/TD]
[TD]IA_Civitavecchia_R473[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD600, align: right"]8.69822970[/TD]
[TD]N_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFB300, align: right"]9.72521465[/TD]
[TD]Baleares[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF8E00, align: right"]10.82441684[/TD]
[TD]IA_Latin_Prenestina_Colombella_R435[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF7000, align: right"]11.71405566[/TD]
[TD]IA_Civitavecchia_R474[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF4E00, align: right"]12.72055816[/TD]
[TD]Galicia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF2E00, align: right"]13.65209874[/TD]
[TD]Spaniards[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF2D00, align: right"]13.66606015[/TD]
[TD]Andalucia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF2D00, align: right"]13.68447295[/TD]
[TD]Extremadura[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF2B00, align: right"]13.72961762[/TD]
[TD]TSI30[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF1E00, align: right"]14.12451061[/TD]
[TD]IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF1D00, align: right"]14.14446181[/TD]
[TD]Murcia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF1B00, align: right"]14.19710534[/TD]
[TD]Castilla_Y_Leon[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0200, align: right"]14.95184938[/TD]
[TD]Cataluna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0100, align: right"]14.96557049[/TD]
[TD]Portuguese[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0010, align: right"]15.46727513[/TD]
[TD]Tuscan[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0011, align: right"]15.51092518[/TD]
[TD]Spanish[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0012, align: right"]15.51673290[/TD]
[TD]Valencia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0018, align: right"]15.71011776[/TD]
[TD]Cantabria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF002F, align: right"]16.39121106[/TD]
[TD]Castilla_La_Mancha[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF003B, align: right"]16.74619360[/TD]
[TD]Aragon[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]IA_Castel_di_Decima_R1016[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #88FF00, align: right"]4.01160816[/TD]
[TD]IA_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia_R1015[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #ABFF00, align: right"]5.03751923[/TD]
[TD]IA_Boville_Ernica_R1021[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #AFFF00, align: right"]5.15760603[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CAFF00, align: right"]5.95183165[/TD]
[TD]IA_Civitavecchia_R473[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CDFF00, align: right"]6.03394564[/TD]
[TD]IA_Latin_Ardea_R851[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF200, align: right"]7.87889586[/TD]
[TD]N_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE600, align: right"]8.24389471[/TD]
[TD]Baleares[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF8600, align: right"]11.06406345[/TD]
[TD]IA_Civitavecchia_R474[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF7D00, align: right"]11.32371847[/TD]
[TD]Andalucia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF7A00, align: right"]11.42493764[/TD]
[TD]IA_Latin_Prenestina_Colombella_R435[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF7A00, align: right"]11.42629424[/TD]
[TD]Galicia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF6800, align: right"]11.95574339[/TD]
[TD]Murcia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF6300, align: right"]12.07648128[/TD]
[TD]Extremadura[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF5D00, align: right"]12.25715301[/TD]
[TD]TSI30[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF5200, align: right"]12.59229129[/TD]
[TD]Spaniards[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF4400, align: right"]12.99406788[/TD]
[TD]Castilla_Y_Leon[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF3400, align: right"]13.45805707[/TD]
[TD]Portuguese[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF1F00, align: right"]14.10107088[/TD]
[TD]Tuscan[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF1900, align: right"]14.26729827[/TD]
[TD]Cataluna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF1700, align: right"]14.31892454[/TD]
[TD]IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF1600, align: right"]14.36500609[/TD]
[TD]Spanish[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF1000, align: right"]14.53080865[/TD]
[TD]Valencia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0700, align: right"]14.78261817[/TD]
[TD]Castilla_La_Mancha[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0200, align: right"]14.93880183[/TD]
[TD]Canarias[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0100, align: right"]14.97183356[/TD]
[TD]Cantabria[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]IA_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia_R1015[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #6FFF00, align: right"]3.27873451[/TD]
[TD]IA_Civitavecchia_R473[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #88FF00, align: right"]4.01160816[/TD]
[TD]IA_Castel_di_Decima_R1016[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #AFFF00, align: right"]5.14806760[/TD]
[TD]IA_Boville_Ernica_R1021[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B2FF00, align: right"]5.24512154[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #BCFF00, align: right"]5.54009928[/TD]
[TD]IA_Latin_Ardea_R851[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFED00, align: right"]8.03976368[/TD]
[TD]N_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE700, align: right"]8.21257572[/TD]
[TD]Baleares[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF8D00, align: right"]10.85773457[/TD]
[TD]Galicia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF8C00, align: right"]10.87764221[/TD]
[TD]IA_Civitavecchia_R474[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF8800, align: right"]10.98685578[/TD]
[TD]IA_Latin_Prenestina_Colombella_R435[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF7200, align: right"]11.64063572[/TD]
[TD]Murcia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF6400, align: right"]12.06155048[/TD]
[TD]Extremadura[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF6100, align: right"]12.15138675[/TD]
[TD]Andalucia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF5500, align: right"]12.49035628[/TD]
[TD]TSI30[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF4D00, align: right"]12.74874111[/TD]
[TD]Castilla_Y_Leon[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF4900, align: right"]12.84337962[/TD]
[TD]Spaniards[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF4300, align: right"]13.02558636[/TD]
[TD]Portuguese[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF1E00, align: right"]14.10738814[/TD]
[TD]IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF1800, align: right"]14.29485922[/TD]
[TD]Spanish[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF1100, align: right"]14.48704249[/TD]
[TD]Cataluna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF1100, align: right"]14.48716673[/TD]
[TD]Tuscan[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0E00, align: right"]14.59809577[/TD]
[TD]Canarias[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0001, align: right"]15.02812031[/TD]
[TD]Castilla_La_Mancha[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0001, align: right"]15.03589040[/TD]
[TD]Valencia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0004, align: right"]15.10769340[/TD]
[TD]Cantabria[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]IA_Civitavecchia_R474[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B8FF00, align: right"]5.40006481[/TD]
[TD]N_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFD00, align: right"]7.56863924[/TD]
[TD]IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFEB00, align: right"]8.09843195[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9300, align: right"]10.68767982[/TD]
[TD]IA_Latin_Prenestina_Colombella_R435[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF8C00, align: right"]10.87764221[/TD]
[TD]IA_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia_R1015[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF8900, align: right"]10.98056465[/TD]
[TD]IA_Civitavecchia_R473[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF8600, align: right"]11.06406345[/TD]
[TD]IA_Castel_di_Decima_R1016[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF7000, align: right"]11.71405566[/TD]
[TD]IA_Boville_Ernica_R1021[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF6500, align: right"]12.03535625[/TD]
[TD]LA_Celio_R36[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF6300, align: right"]12.08194107[/TD]
[TD]Baleares[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF6300, align: right"]12.08642627[/TD]
[TD]O_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF6200, align: right"]12.12151393[/TD]
[TD]TSI30[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF5600, align: right"]12.46485459[/TD]
[TD]IA_Latin_Ardea_R851[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF4C00, align: right"]12.76096000[/TD]
[TD]Galicia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF3500, align: right"]13.43684859[/TD]
[TD]Extremadura[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF1F00, align: right"]14.08415422[/TD]
[TD]Portuguese[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF1D00, align: right"]14.15437388[/TD]
[TD]Tuscan[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF1C00, align: right"]14.17464638[/TD]
[TD]Albanian_North[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF1900, align: right"]14.26640459[/TD]
[TD]Albanian_Kosovo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0016, align: right"]15.65916026[/TD]
[TD]Murcia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF001C, align: right"]15.83631902[/TD]
[TD]Imperial_Monterotondo_R1549[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0025, align: right"]16.08680515[/TD]
[TD]Castilla_Y_Leon[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF002B, align: right"]16.25876994[/TD]
[TD]LA_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_R118[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0030, align: right"]16.41527642[/TD]
[TD]Cataluna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0033, align: right"]16.49286816[/TD]
[TD]French[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F2FF00, align: right"]7.11862346[/TD]
[TD]O_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F4FF00, align: right"]7.18894985[/TD]
[TD]N_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFE00, align: right"]7.51609606[/TD]
[TD]Albanian_North[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFD00, align: right"]7.56863924[/TD]
[TD]IA_Civitavecchia_R474[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF600, align: right"]7.76251248[/TD]
[TD]Albanian_Kosovo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFCE00, align: right"]8.94220890[/TD]
[TD]LA_Celio_R36[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFBE00, align: right"]9.42569891[/TD]
[TD]TSI30[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9F00, align: right"]10.32626263[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9500, align: right"]10.61324644[/TD]
[TD]Tuscan[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF4F00, align: right"]12.67284893[/TD]
[TD]C_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF4D00, align: right"]12.72463359[/TD]
[TD]Imperial_Monterotondo_R1549[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF4300, align: right"]13.02779337[/TD]
[TD]MA_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_R970[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF3400, align: right"]13.46066492[/TD]
[TD]LA_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_R121[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF2600, align: right"]13.87592880[/TD]
[TD]MA_Villa_Magna_R60[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF1E00, align: right"]14.10656230[/TD]
[TD]LA_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_R118[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF1E00, align: right"]14.10738814[/TD]
[TD]IA_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia_R1015[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF1E00, align: right"]14.12451061[/TD]
[TD]IA_Boville_Ernica_R1021[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF1800, align: right"]14.28975507[/TD]
[TD]IA_Civitavecchia_R473[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF1700, align: right"]14.31892454[/TD]
[TD]IA_Castel_di_Decima_R1016[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0002, align: right"]15.04893352[/TD]
[TD]Bulgarians[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0002, align: right"]15.06029880[/TD]
[TD]Romanians[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF000E, align: right"]15.41974708[/TD]
[TD]Bulgarian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF001B, align: right"]15.78121351[/TD]
[TD]IA_Latin_Ardea_R851[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF001E, align: right"]15.89171168[/TD]
[TD]MA_Villa_Magna_R1290[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0023, align: right"]16.03948877[/TD]
[TD]Imperial_Civitanova_Marche_R836[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]IA_Latin_Prenestina_Selicata_R437[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #9CFF00, align: right"]4.59913035[/TD]
[TD]S_Italian_Sicilian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #A4FF00, align: right"]4.83577295[/TD]
[TD]Sicilian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B7FF00, align: right"]5.37071690[/TD]
[TD]Imperial_Civitanova_Marche_R836[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #BEFF00, align: right"]5.58436209[/TD]
[TD]MA_Villa_Magna_R1290[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C4FF00, align: right"]5.75484144[/TD]
[TD]MA_Villa_Magna_R65[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C9FF00, align: right"]5.92564764[/TD]
[TD]MA_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_R973[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #DEFF00, align: right"]6.53716299[/TD]
[TD]MA_Villa_Magna_R59[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E0FF00, align: right"]6.57532509[/TD]
[TD]LA_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_R118[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E1FF00, align: right"]6.62618291[/TD]
[TD]C_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD700, align: right"]8.68328855[/TD]
[TD]LA_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_R121[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFAE00, align: right"]9.89564551[/TD]
[TD]MA_Villa_Magna_R60[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFA700, align: right"]10.09640530[/TD]
[TD]MA_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_R970[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFA400, align: right"]10.16248001[/TD]
[TD]Ashkenazi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9900, align: right"]10.49031935[/TD]
[TD]Tuscan[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9400, align: right"]10.64005169[/TD]
[TD]Ashkenazy_Jews[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF8400, align: right"]11.10535456[/TD]
[TD]LA_Celio_R36[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF7F00, align: right"]11.26179382[/TD]
[TD]Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF7C00, align: right"]11.34612709[/TD]
[TD]Greek_Crete[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF7A00, align: right"]11.40172794[/TD]
[TD]Sephardic_Jews[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF6F00, align: right"]11.72748055[/TD]
[TD]TSI30[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF6600, align: right"]11.99572424[/TD]
[TD]O_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF6000, align: right"]12.17614060[/TD]
[TD]Imperial_Monterotondo_R1548[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF4700, align: right"]12.92229856[/TD]
[TD]Morocco_Jews[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF4400, align: right"]13.00421086[/TD]
[TD]MA_Villa_Magna_R57[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF3700, align: right"]13.37198938[/TD]
[TD]Imperial_Monterotondo_R1549[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]IA_Latin_Ardea_R850[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #85FF00, align: right"]3.90799181[/TD]
[TD]Greek_Crete[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #A7FF00, align: right"]4.90446735[/TD]
[TD]Imperial_Monterotondo_R1548[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F3FF00, align: right"]7.13377179[/TD]
[TD]Ashkenazy_Jews[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF700, align: right"]7.74058137[/TD]
[TD]Sephardic_Jews[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF400, align: right"]7.82175172[/TD]
[TD]Ashkenazi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFBB00, align: right"]9.49243910[/TD]
[TD]MA_Villa_Magna_R65[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFA500, align: right"]10.15725357[/TD]
[TD]S_Italian_Sicilian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9B00, align: right"]10.43784940[/TD]
[TD]Sicilian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF8C00, align: right"]10.88449356[/TD]
[TD]Greek_Cappadocia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF6F00, align: right"]11.74901272[/TD]
[TD]MA_Villa_Magna_R59[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF6B00, align: right"]11.86263040[/TD]
[TD]Cypriots[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF6600, align: right"]11.99563671[/TD]
[TD]MA_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_R973[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF6300, align: right"]12.08694751[/TD]
[TD]Nusayri_Turkey[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF5F00, align: right"]12.19292418[/TD]
[TD]Morocco_Jews[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF4000, align: right"]13.12759689[/TD]
[TD]Crimean_Tatar_Coast[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF3E00, align: right"]13.17106678[/TD]
[TD]Turk_West_BlackSea[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF3300, align: right"]13.49063008[/TD]
[TD]Turk_Central_West[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF3100, align: right"]13.55089296[/TD]
[TD]MA_Villa_Magna_R1290[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF1F00, align: right"]14.08757609[/TD]
[TD]Imperial_Civitanova_Marche_R836[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF1F00, align: right"]14.10277987[/TD]
[TD]IA_Latin_Prenestina_Selicata_R437[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF1C00, align: right"]14.16544387[/TD]
[TD]Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF1300, align: right"]14.43175665[/TD]
[TD]Turk_Central_East[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF1300, align: right"]14.45064012[/TD]
[TD]Turk_Anatolia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0400, align: right"]14.88196224[/TD]
[TD]MA_Villa_Magna_R60[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0007, align: right"]15.19421600[/TD]
[TD]Turk_Southwest[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]


The only one that I see is closest to Iberians is R435:

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]IA_Latin_Prenestina_Colombella_R435[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F7FF00, align: right"]7.26140482[/TD]
[TD]Baleares[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FDFF00, align: right"]7.44595192[/TD]
[TD]Galicia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFEE00, align: right"]7.98874208[/TD]
[TD]Cataluna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFCC00, align: right"]8.99323635[/TD]
[TD]IA_Latin_Ardea_R851[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFCC00, align: right"]9.01121523[/TD]
[TD]Spaniards[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC600, align: right"]9.17724359[/TD]
[TD]Extremadura[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFAD00, align: right"]9.91413133[/TD]
[TD]Castilla_Y_Leon[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFA200, align: right"]10.23676218[/TD]
[TD]IA_Civitavecchia_R473[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFA100, align: right"]10.27070105[/TD]
[TD]Portuguese[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9F00, align: right"]10.32665483[/TD]
[TD]Spanish[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9B00, align: right"]10.44412754[/TD]
[TD]French[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9400, align: right"]10.63531852[/TD]
[TD]Cantabria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9300, align: right"]10.68767982[/TD]
[TD]IA_Civitavecchia_R474[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF8E00, align: right"]10.82441684[/TD]
[TD]IA_Boville_Ernica_R1021[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF8800, align: right"]10.98685578[/TD]
[TD]IA_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia_R1015[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF8400, align: right"]11.10933391[/TD]
[TD]French[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF7A00, align: right"]11.39798228[/TD]
[TD]Murcia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF7A00, align: right"]11.42493764[/TD]
[TD]IA_Castel_di_Decima_R1016[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF7400, align: right"]11.60238769[/TD]
[TD]Valencia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF6A00, align: right"]11.86962510[/TD]
[TD]Castilla_La_Mancha[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF6300, align: right"]12.09465584[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF5D00, align: right"]12.27742644[/TD]
[TD]N_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF5000, align: right"]12.63263235[/TD]
[TD]Aragon[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF4800, align: right"]12.88846771[/TD]
[TD]Andalucia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0024, align: right"]16.05179118[/TD]
[TD]Canarias[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
 
^^
I don't know, every calculator is one is a surprise. They probably all have some truth and everything is not quite right. Next year they will probably have changed again. It would be wonderful if they made each one a custom calculator with our tastes, desires and desires. Look, some have been lucky and have done it.
 
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