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It's true, @Carlos. As they add new samples, with smaller distances and better classified in the TOP 60, those that previously appeared in a number of order less than 60, end up surpassing that order number and disappear of the TOP 60. This happened , in my case, with the Guanche Canarias sample. This sample disappeared from TOP 60 after the addition of samples from Scythians, Crusaders and Germanic Visigoth.

That said, after I deleted old Kits and made a new data upload, the results that are displayed for the FTDNA and MyHeritage Kits are now absolutely identical, as shown below.

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[email protected] said:
I have a question for those of you who seem to be pretty smart about these matters. My closest Archaeogenetic match at mytrueancesstery.com is:

"Colonial American Pennsylvania (1700 AD) (4.989)."

These are the remains of a European colonist found at Shohola creek, Indian Cabin Ridge, Pennsylvania, dated to 1634-1662 AD (GEDmatch kit DD7536671). This may be a Dutch ancestor of forebears of mine that lived in the area circa 1750. The remains were typed as I1a-Z73 and U4c1a - from "Ancient Human Parallel Lineages within North America Contributed to a Coastal Expansion" by C.L. Scheib, et al.

However, when I compare my autosomal DNA with this sample in GEDmatch I get no shared DNA segments.

How is this possible? And, what am I missing here?
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Hello [email protected],

I confess my absolute ignorance about the US colonial history. However, on “yourDNAportal” discussion blog I found this comment from Tomenable, who is also a member of Eupedia. Following, I post the link. I hope this can help you in some way:

https://yourdnaportalforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=102
 
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voloh said:
@[email protected]
Colonial American Pennsylvania (1700 AD) (4.989) -> this doesn't mean that you are closely related, it means that you have similar proportions of admixtures that are 10,000s years old. in other words, every Dutch person will get a close match with that sample.

you can post your eurogenes k36 results and the k36 of that sample so we can compare.

for the one to one comparison you can try these settings: SNP window size threshold: 50 and Minimum segment cM size: 2
and you will probably get some matching. but i don't know how correct is that.
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Voloh:

Thank you for your attempts to answer my questions. Here are my K36 results:

Using the Eurogene K36 calculator I got, ​
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Admixture Results
0.78% Amerindian
9.67% Central_Euro
0.69% East_African
4.15% East_Balkan
7.75% East_Central_Euro
4.74% Eastern_Euro
9.16% Fennoscandian
6.49% French
11.24% Iberian
10.17% Italian
17.88% North_Atlantic
15.38% North_Sea
1.40% Volga-Ural
0.50% West_Med​
 
Duarte said:
Hello [email protected],

I confess my absolute ignorance about the US colonial history. However, on “yourDNAportal” discussion blog I found this comment from Tomenable, who is also a member of Eupedia. Following, I post the link. I hope this can help you in some way:

https://yourdnaportalforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=102
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I had seen some of this before (i.e. the original report), but much is new to me and very helpful. Thank you very much (as you'd say, hugs).
 
from MTA:
... Summer Solstice Sale, NEW Africa Map has arrived!

Many more Iberian and Amerindian samples added.

Plus the NEW Full Detailed Timeline Feature!

- Africa has Arrived! All the latest Ancient African samples have been added from Harvard's Reich Laboratory

- NEW Iberian Bronze Age, Neolithic and Iron Age samples added.

- NEW Native American samples added for Alaska, the Pacific Northwest, and Canada!

- PLUS *NEW* Full Detailed Timeline allows you to review ALL your matches on a scrollable Timeline ...



Partial Full Detailed Timeline:

...Your Full Detailed Timeline / Journey through time! Below is a timeline of your entire sample list - either by ancestry or by sharing direct DNA segments ...


EDITED .... now redundant ... go to post #932
 
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Just got my new maps processed, everything is the same for my results.

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Full Details Timeline and Africa Map:

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10. Bronze Age Spain Cogotas (1290 BC) (14.25) - I12208

Ancient Group

Gallo-Roman (7.999)
Visigoth + Gallo-Roman (8.985)
Visigoth (10.26)
Gallo-Roman + Illyrian (13.97)

Modern Group

1. Spanish_Cantabria (13.65)
2. Southwest_French (14.96)
3. Spanish_Aragon (15.32)
4. Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha (16.51)
5. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (17.44)
6. Spanish_Cataluna (17.60)
7. Spanish_Valencia (17.61)
8. French_Basque (17.78)

19. Bronze Age Northern Spain (1560 BC) (16.22) - VAD001

Ancient Group

Gallo-Roman (11.05)
Visigoth + Gallo-Roman (11.95)
Visigoth (13.1)
Gallo-Roman + Carthaginian (13.47)

Modern Group

1. Spanish_Cantabria (16.06)
2. French_Basque (16.34)
3. Southwest_French (16.55)
4. Spanish_Aragon (17.19)
5. Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha (18.71)
6. Spanish_Valencia (19.88)
7. Spanish_Andalucia (20.08)
8. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (20.37)

29. Bronze Age Northern Spain (1560 BC) (17.65) - VAD005

Ancient Group

Gallo-Roman (14.06)
Visigoth + Gallo-Roman (14.28)
Visigoth (14.77)
Gallo-Roman + Carthaginian (15.51)

Modern Group

1. French_Basque (14.42)
2. Spanish_Cantabria (17.85)
3. Spanish_Aragon (18.03)
4. Southwest_French (18.71)
5. Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha (19.78)
6. Spanish_Valencia (21.31)
7. Spanish_Andalucia (21.89)
8. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (22.27)

37. Bronze Age Northern Spain (1560 BC) (19.77) - VAD004

Ancient Group

Gallo-Roman + Carthaginian (15.91)
Gallo-Roman (16.89)

Modern Group

1. French_Basque (14.39)
2. Spanish_Aragon (19.47)
3. Spanish_Cantabria (19.84)
4. Southwest_French (20.22)
5. Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha (21.30)
6. Spanish_Valencia (22.76)
7. Spanish_Andalucia (23.02)
8. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (24.43)

43. Celtiberian Northern Spain (300 BC) (20.52)

Visigoth + Celt (14.32)
Celt (14.56)
Celt + Gallo-Roman (14.79)
Visigoth (18.34)
Gallo-Roman (19.92)

1. French_Basque (12.04)
2. Spanish_Aragon (19.58)
3. Spanish_Cantabria (20.63)
4. Southwest_French (20.68)
5. Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha (21.51)
6. Spanish_Valencia (22.76)
7. Spanish_Cataluna (23.71)
8. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (23.82)

Similar Samples

Italy Bell Beaker (2000 BC) (9.56)
Bronze Age Northern Spain (1560 BC) (14.3)
Halstatt Celt (775 BC) (14.56)
Bronze Age Northern Spain (1560 BC) (16.19)
Bell Beaker Southern France (2120 BC) (16.31)

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Jovialis said:
Just got my new maps processed, everything is the same for my results.

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I think this helps to prove my point from earlier posts up thread. Clearly, the "1500 AD Ottoman" sample that I get is because of comparable ancestry from Copper Age Anatolia. The same can be observed with the "2000 AD Samaritan".
 
Jovialis said:
I think this helps to prove my point from earlier posts up thread. Clearly, the "1500 AD Ottoman" sample that I get is because of comparable ancestry from Copper Age Anatolia. The same can be observed with the "2000 AD Samaritan".
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There’s a sample that shows up only on 23v5: 3500 BC Trypillia (Ukraine/Russia?).

Just wondering if it shows up in any of your kits. :)

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Salento said:
There’s a sample that shows up only on 23v5: 3500 BC Trypillia (Ukraine/Russia?).

Just wondering if it shows up in any of your kits. :)

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Apologies for interjecting. It doesn't show up in the IBD analysis, but does show up in my samples.

Scratch that. It used to show up in the time line map and in my samples, but now it's gone. I don't know if it's a problem with the sample, or because of the new matches: all those Crusader knights for example.
 
Thanks Angela :)

I’ve been thinking, lol, I don’t see how a 2000 AD sample is relevant in the “Full Detailed Timeline”, unless I’m missing something and the Samaritan sample is not 20 years old.

The Samaritan sample doesn’t have an ID reference either.

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@Salento,

I recall seeing it in the past too, but now it seems to be gone, due to the new samples.
 
My closest ancient sample match, SZ40, is another one that falls into the Peloponnese cluster, from the Crete paper.

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[h=3]Your closest Archaeogenetic matches...[/h][h=6](Smaller numbers mean closer matches to you)[/h]
1. Hellenic Roman (590 AD) (8.423) - SZ40 (Click for more info)
2. Hellenic Roman / Cretan (670 AD) (10.28) - CL38 (Click for more info)
3. Hellenic Roman (670 AD) (11.21) - CL121 (Click for more info)
4. Hellenic Roman / Dodecanese (670 AD) (12.02) - CL30 (Click for more info)
5. Hellenic Roman / Calabria (670 AD) (12.48) - CL25 (Click for more info)
6. Central Roman / Mixed (590 AD) (13.58) - SZ19 (Click for more info)
7. Central Roman (590 AD) (14.03) - SZ36 (Click for more info)
8. Mycenaean (1350 BC) (14.4) - I9033 (Click for more info)
9. Mycenaean (1350 BC) (14.49) - I9041 (Click for more info)
10. Mycenaean (1350 BC) (15.17) - I9006 (Click for more info)
11. Central Roman (590 AD) (15.2) - SZ43 (Click for more info)
12. Ostrogoth Crimea (300 AD) (15.25) - Ker1 (Click for more info)
13. Central Roman (590 AD) (15.84) - SZ32 (Click for more info)
14. Copper Age Anatolia (3800 BC) (15.95) - I0184 (Click for more info)
15. Hittite Anatolia (1875 BC) (16.02) - MA2208 (Click for more info)
16. Central Roman (670 AD) (16.4) - CL36 (Click for more info)
17. Mycenaean (1350 BC) (16.8) - I9010 (Click for more info)
18. Crusader Knight Tuscan / Lebanon (1250 AD) (17.03) - SI-41 (Click for more info)
19. Morisco Andalusia Iberia (1550 AD) (17.04) - I3808 (Click for more info)
20. Crusader Knight Tuscan / Lebanon (1250 AD) (17.31) - SI-53 (Click for more info)
21. Late Roman Iberia Granada (650 AD) (17.52) - I3575 (Click for more info)
22. Minoan (2000 BC) (18.74) - I9129 (Click for more info)
23. Hittite Anatolia (1875 BC) (19.35) - MA2206 (Click for more info)
24. Sicily Beaker (2200 BC) (19.81) - I4930 (Click for more info)
25. Early Medieval Iberia Granada (515 AD) (20.49) - I3980 (Click for more info)
26. Roman Era Citizen / Lebanon (250 AD) (20.54) - QED-2 (Click for more info)
27. Morisco Andalusia Iberia (1550 AD) (20.73) - I7424 (Click for more info)
28. Roman Iberia Granada (350 AD) (20.77) - I3983 (Click for more info)
29. Minoan (2000 BC) (20.98) - I9005 (Click for more info)
30. Hittite Anatolia (1675 BC) (21.07) - MA2200 (Click for more info)
31. Bronze Age Armenia (1500 BC) (21.1) - Rise397 (Click for more info)
32. Minoan (2000 BC) (21.85) - I0071 (Click for more info)
33. Late Roman Iberia Granada (470 AD) (22.48) - I3576 (Click for more info)
34. Late Roman Iberia Granada (500 AD) (22.59) - I3581 (Click for more info)
35. Morisco Andalusia Iberia (1550 AD) (23.15) - I7425 (Click for more info)
36. Illyrian / Dalmatia (1600 BC) (23.52) - I4332 (Click for more info)
37. Thracian Bulgaria (450 BC) (23.52) - I5769 (Click for more info)
38. Scythian Moldova (270 BC) (23.55) - scy192 (Click for more info)
39. Minoan (2000 BC) (23.66) - I0070 (Click for more info)
40. Early Medieval Iberia Granada (500 AD) (23.84) - I3981 (Click for more info)
41. Minoan (2000 BC) (24.09) - I0074 (Click for more info)
42. Medieval Iberian (670 AD) (24.18) - CL23 (Click for more info)
43. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) (24.21) - SZ28 (Click for more info)
44. Medieval Iberian Valencia (1200 AD) (24.22) - I2647 (Click for more info)
45. Minoan (2000 BC) (24.38) - I9130 (Click for more info)
46. Crusader Knight Georgian / Lebanon (1250 AD) (24.46) - SI-38 (Click for more info)
47. Late Roman Iberia Granada (500 AD) (24.55) - I3582 (Click for more info)
48. Medieval Iberian Valencia (1100 AD) (24.78) - I2515 (Click for more info)
49. Roman Era Citizen / Lebanon (250 AD) (25.02) - QED-9 (Click for more info)
50. Crusader Knight Mix / Lebanon (1250 AD) (25.36) - SI-45 (Click for more info)
51. Copper Age Armenia (4000 BC) (25.39) - I1631 (Click for more info)
52. Samaritan (2000 AD) (25.78) - Unknown (Click for more info)
53. Minoan (2000 BC) (26.15) - I0073 (Click for more info)
54. Illyrian / Dalmatia (1200 BC) (26.31) - I3313 (Click for more info)
55. Minoan (2000 BC) (26.36) - I9131 (Click for more info)
56. Medieval Iberian Valencia (1120 AD) (26.51) - I2514 (Click for more info)
57. Visigoth Mixed Slav Girona (550 AD) (26.91) - I12031 (Click for more info)
58. Ottoman (1500 AD) (26.98) - MA2196 (Click for more info)
59. Canaanite (1600 BC) (27.06) - ERS1790730 (Click for more info)
60. Medieval Iberian Valencia (1200 AD) (27.14) - I2649 (Click for more info)
 
These are the updates of my list and the beginning of my complete time line.
I confess that with these continuous updates I find it very difficult to understand something and the whole thing makes me a little suspicious.
[Sorry, I could not follow the thread in the last few weeks]

1. Central Roman (590 AD) (6.538) - SZ43 (Click for more info)
2. Central Roman (590 AD) (7.299) - SZ36 (Click for more info)
3. Morisco Andalusia Iberia (1550 AD) (7.647) - I7424 (Click for more info)
4. Central Roman (670 AD) (8.839) - CL36 (Click for more info)
5. Medieval Iberian (670 AD) (8.938) - CL23 (Click for more info)
6. Hellenic Roman (670 AD) (11.0) - CL121 (Click for more info)
7. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) (11.39) - SZ28 (Click for more info)
8. Illyrian / Dalmatia (1200 BC) (11.77) - I3313 (Click for more info)
9. Central Roman (590 AD) (12.78) - SZ32 (Click for more info)
10. Medieval Iberian Valencia (1100 AD) (13.34) - I2515 (Click for more info)
11. Medieval Iberian Valencia (1120 AD) (13.7) - I2514 (Click for more info)
12. Early Medieval Iberia Granada (500 AD) (13.83) - I3981 (Click for more info)
13. Morisco Andalusia Iberia (1550 AD) (13.93) - I7425 (Click for more info)
14. Crusader Knight Tuscan / Lebanon (1250 AD) (13.96) - SI-53 (Click for more info)
15. Late Roman Iberia Granada (650 AD) (14.23) - I3575 (Click for more info)
16. Crusader Knight Tuscan / Lebanon (1250 AD) (14.39) - SI-41 (Click for more info)
17. Scythian Moldova (270 BC) (14.48) - scy192 (Click for more info)
18. Late Roman Iberia Granada (500 AD) (14.85) - I3582 (Click for more info)
19. Medieval Piedmont (670 AD) (15.0) - CL57 (Click for more info)
20. Medieval Iberian Valencia (1200 AD) (15.56) - I2644 (Click for more info)
21. Early Medieval Iberia Granada (760 AD) (15.62) - I3585 (Click for more info)
22. Roman Iberia Granada (300 AD) (15.8) - I3982 (Click for more info)
23. Central Roman / Mixed (590 AD) (15.81) - SZ19 (Click for more info)
24. Late Roman Iberia Granada (500 AD) (16.04) - I3581 (Click for more info)
25. Cisalpine Gaul (590 AD) (16.55) - SZ45 (Click for more info)
26. Iberian / Piedmont (670 AD) (16.57) - CL94 (Click for more info)
27. Illyrian / Dalmatia (1600 BC) (16.58) - I4332 (Click for more info)
28. Thracian Bulgaria (450 BC) (16.58) - I5769 (Click for more info)
29. Late Roman Iberia Granada (470 AD) (17.34) - I3576 (Click for more info)
30. Scythian Moldova (290 BC) (17.94) - scy305 (Click for more info)
31. Visigoth Mixed Slav Girona (550 AD) (18.22) - I12031 (Click for more info)
32. Hellenic Roman (590 AD) (18.63) - SZ40 (Click for more info)
33. Medieval Frank (670 AD) (18.91) - CL63 (Click for more info)
34. Roman Iberia Granada (350 AD) (18.98) - I3983 (Click for more info)
35. Medieval Tyrolian (590 AD) (19.21) - SZ18 (Click for more info)
36. Early Medieval Iberia Granada (515 AD) (19.37) - I3980 (Click for more info)
37. Medieval Iberian Valencia (1200 AD) (19.84) - I2649 (Click for more info)
38. Medieval Iberian Valencia (1200 AD) (19.94) - I2647 (Click for more info)
39. Scythian Moldova (290 BC) (20.33) - scy311 (Click for more info)
40. Mycenaean (1350 BC) (20.74) - I9041 (Click for more info)
41. Morisco Andalusia Iberia (1550 AD) (21.12) - I3808 (Click for more info)
42. Frankish-Gaul / Lombardy Italy (670 AD) (21.26) - CL47 (Click for more info)
43. Mycenaean (1350 BC) (21.27) - I9033 (Click for more info)
44. Roman Soldier Germany (300 BC) (21.53) - FN_2 (Click for more info)
45. Ostrogoth Crimea (300 AD) (22.03) - Ker1 (Click for more info)
46. Medieval Hungary / Balkan (1244 AD) (22.3) - DA199 (Click for more info)
47. Sicily Beaker (2200 BC) (22.55) - I4930 (Click for more info)
48. Medieval Tyrolian (670 AD) (22.58) - CL53 (Click for more info)
49. Gepid / Goth (450 AD) (22.74) - Vim2 (Click for more info)
50. Crete Armenoi (1370 BC) (23.37) - I9123 (Click for more info)
51. Crusader Knight French / Lebanon (1250 AD) (23.4) - SI-40 (Click for more info)
52. Hellenic Roman / Dodecanese (670 AD) (23.94) - CL30 (Click for more info)
53. Swiss Germanic (670 AD) (24.15) - CL102 (Click for more info)
54. Hellenic Roman / Calabria (670 AD) (24.69) - CL25 (Click for more info)
55. Carthaginian Ibiza (270 BC) (24.94) - MS10614 (Click for more info)
56. Visigoth Germanic Girona (550 AD) (24.96) - I12163 (Click for more info)
57. Neolithic Morocco (3760 BC) (25.2) - KEB1 (Click for more info)
58. Hellenic Roman / Cretan (670 AD) (25.34) - CL38 (Click for more info)
59. Visigoth Iberian Girona (550 AD) (25.37) - I12034 (Click for more info)
60. Bronze Age Armenia (1500 BC) (26.07) - Rise397 (Click for more info)


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Jovialis said:
@Salento,

I recall seeing it in the past too, but now it seems to be gone, due to the new samples.
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Thanks J :)

Fluctuating Samples, now:

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