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[Salento]

Sorry I'm confused is true isAEH_1 ostrogoth mix in MTA

I don't know if it's the same sample for MTA, ...

the Sample ID is AEHIb ... AEH_1 is just its Skeletal code,


GedMatch: AEHIb # ZR3497137

Raw_Data:
https://www.mediafire.com/file/b6s3hcxvw8fnexj/AEHIb.zip/file

 

[Salento]

In Ancient Relavites the first population is Ancient Middle Helladic Elati-Logkas Greece 1861 BC 95% higher than others with the same match, I also have other Greek samples, the oldest are two samples from 2827 BC, i'm from Gargano (north-east Apulia)

I assume that your 1861 BC sample is Log02…,
anch’io sono Pugliese, …di Lecce

 

[Salento]

@Kenshiro … Do you know your Haplogroups?

 

[Salento]

… new Deep Dive: ETR016 Siena Italy 470 AD

… the sample was added to ENA at a later date, … it’s missing at Vahaduo, though:

ETR016_Dod_K12b,4.72,0.00,3.51,0.00,29.85,11.84,0.90,1.90,14.59,1.16,31.53,0.00

ETR016_Dod_Globe13,0.00,2.20,0.55,1.63,18.17,0.00,39.19,0.24,0.00,19.83,17.70,0.00,0.50

ETR016_Dodecad_K7b,0.46,23.16,0.00,1.86,38.44,34.88,1.20

 

[Kenshiro]

I have that too, but the first is Log04 with 95% (Largest chain 1046 SNP), Log02 instead is at 65%, then also Minoans, Samnites, two Viking samples from Foggia haha, very cool haha, in the map I also have a connection with the Greenland, I think it's the Normans, other Greek samples even more ancient, 2 samples of 2827 BC, è troppo figa sta cosa ahaha
This is modern population distance:
1. Greek (8.084)
2. Italian_Abruzzo (9.011)
3. Central_Greek (9.752)
4. West_Sicilian (10.21)
5. Albanian_Tosk (11.04)
6. East_Sicilian (11.14)
7. South_Italian (11.52)
8. Kosovar (12.04)

 

[Kenshiro]

Yes, J1a, but I suppose it is of Neolithic origin, because I have 0% Red Sea

 

[Duarte]

Slovenian samples taken from the supplementary material of ‘Cosmopolitanism at the Roman Danubian Frontier, Slavic Migrations, and the Genomic Formation of Modern Balkan Peoples’ paper now appear among my 125 top matches in the MTA, one of them at a distance less than 10.

3. Illyrian Slovenia
300 BC - Genetic Distance: 9.253 - I5692
48. Iron Age Obrezje Slovenia
301 BC - Genetic Distance: 12.01 - I5696
51. Iron Age Kapiteljska njive Slovenia
665 BC - Genetic Distance: 12.12 - I5691
52. Illyrian Slovenia
300 BC - Genetic Distance: 12.19 - I5693

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/bio...0.458211/DC4/embed/media-4.xlsx?download=true

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[TD="class: s0"]I5689[/TD]
[TD="class: s0"]Slovenia_EIA[/TD]
[TD="class: s0"]M[/TD]
[TD="class: s0"]750-400 BCE[/TD]
[TD="class: s4, align: right"]898556[/TD]
[TD="class: s0"]Slovenia, Grofove njive[/TD]
[TD="class: s0"]Slovenia[/TD]
[TD="class: s1"]45.914224[/TD]
[TD="class: s1"]15.4691[/TD]
[TD="class: s5"]Patterson et al., in submission[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: s0"]I5690[/TD]
[TD="class: s0"]Slovenia_EIA[/TD]
[TD="class: s0"]M[/TD]
[TD="class: s0"]750-400 BCE[/TD]
[TD="class: s4, align: right"]920296[/TD]
[TD="class: s0"]Slovenia, Grofove njive[/TD]
[TD="class: s0"]Slovenia[/TD]
[TD="class: s1"]45.914224[/TD]
[TD="class: s1"]15.4691[/TD]
[TD="class: s5"]Patterson et al., in submission[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: s0"]I5691[/TD]
[TD="class: s0"]Slovenia_EIA[/TD]
[TD="class: s0"]M[/TD]
[TD="class: s0"]787-544 cal BCE (2518±28 BP, SUERC-69417)[/TD]
[TD="class: s4, align: right"]769301[/TD]
[TD="class: s0"]Slovenia, Novo mesto, Kapiteljska njive[/TD]
[TD="class: s0"]Slovenia[/TD]
[TD="class: s1"]45.81207[/TD]
[TD="class: s1"]15.158908[/TD]
[TD="class: s5"]Patterson et al., in submission[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: s0"]I5692[/TD]
[TD="class: s0"]Slovenia_EIA[/TD]
[TD="class: s0"]F[/TD]
[TD="class: s0"]795-592 cal BCE (2550±15 BP, PSUAMS-3055)[/TD]
[TD="class: s4, align: right"]880797[/TD]
[TD="class: s0"]Slovenia, Ljublijana, Kongresni trg[/TD]
[TD="class: s0"]Slovenia[/TD]
[TD="class: s1"]46.050237[/TD]
[TD="class: s1"]14.50372[/TD]
[TD="class: s5"]Patterson et al., in submission[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: s0"]I5693[/TD]
[TD="class: s0"]Slovenia_EIA[/TD]
[TD="class: s0"]F[/TD]
[TD="class: s0"]796-570 cal BCE (2550±20 BP, PSUAMS-3092)[/TD]
[TD="class: s4, align: right"]881342[/TD]
[TD="class: s0"]Slovenia, Ljublijana, Kongresni trg[/TD]
[TD="class: s0"]Slovenia[/TD]
[TD="class: s1"]46.050237[/TD]
[TD="class: s1"]14.50372[/TD]
[TD="class: s5"]Patterson et al., in submission[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: s0"]I5694[/TD]
[TD="class: s0"]Slovenia_EIA[/TD]
[TD="class: s0"]M[/TD]
[TD="class: s0"]795-567 cal BCE (2545±20 BP, PSUAMS-3093)[/TD]
[TD="class: s4, align: right"]900855[/TD]
[TD="class: s0"]Metlika-Hrib[/TD]
[TD="class: s0"]Slovenia[/TD]
[TD="class: s1"]45.652658[/TD]
[TD="class: s1"]15.320159[/TD]
[TD="class: s5"]Patterson et al., in submission[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: s0"]I5687[/TD]
[TD="class: s0"]Slovenia_EIA[/TD]
[TD="class: s0"]M[/TD]
[TD="class: s0"]791-544 cal BCE (2525±31 BP, SUERC-69707)[/TD]
[TD="class: s4, align: right"]1031953[/TD]
[TD="class: s0"]Slovenia, Dolge njive[/TD]
[TD="class: s0"]Slovenia[/TD]
[TD="class: s1"]45.867366[/TD]
[TD="class: s1"]15.279788[/TD]
[TD="class: s5"]Patterson et al., in submission[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: s0"]I5698[/TD]
[TD="class: s0"]Slovenia_EIA[/TD]
[TD="class: s0"]F[/TD]
[TD="class: s0"]776-539 cal BCE (2499±28 BP, SUERC-69422)[/TD]
[TD="class: s4, align: right"]934874[/TD]
[TD="class: s0"]Zagorje ob Savi[/TD]
[TD="class: s0"]Slovenia[/TD]
[TD="class: s1"]46.13711[/TD]
[TD="class: s1"]14.992415[/TD]
[TD="class: s5"]Patterson et al., in submission[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: s0"]I5686[/TD]
[TD="class: s0"]Slovenia_EIA[/TD]
[TD="class: s0"]M[/TD]
[TD="class: s0"]808-568 cal BCE (2569±30 BP, SUERC-69428)[/TD]
[TD="class: s4, align: right"]890836[/TD]
[TD="class: s0"]Slovenia, Dolge njive[/TD]
[TD="class: s0"]Slovenia[/TD]
[TD="class: s1"]45.867366[/TD]
[TD="class: s1"]15.279788[/TD]
[TD="class: s5"]Patterson et al., in submission[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: s0"]I5696[/TD]
[TD="class: s0"]Slovenia_EIA[/TD]
[TD="class: s0"]M[/TD]
[TD="class: s0"]401-208 cal BCE (2281±29 BP, SUERC-69438)[/TD]
[TD="class: s4, align: right"]898211[/TD]
[TD="class: s0"]Slovenia, Obrežje[/TD]
[TD="class: s0"]Slovenia[/TD]
[TD="class: s1"]45.847908[/TD]
[TD="class: s1"]15.690421[/TD]
[TD="class: s5"]Patterson et al., in submission[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: s0"]I5697[/TD]
[TD="class: s0"]Slovenia_EIA[/TD]
[TD="class: s0"]F[/TD]
[TD="class: s0"]901-805 cal BCE (2693±29 BP, SUERC-69436)[/TD]
[TD="class: s4, align: right"]849264[/TD]
[TD="class: s0"]Slovenia, Obrežje[/TD]
[TD="class: s0"]Slovenia[/TD]
[TD="class: s1"]45.847908[/TD]
[TD="class: s1"]15.690421[/TD]
[TD="class: s5"]Patterson et al., in submission[/TD]
[/TR]
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[Salento]

Yes, J1a, but I suppose it is of Neolithic origin, because I have 0% Red Sea

Thanks Kenshiro, … my y Haplogroup is not very popular, I can count the Internet members of my final clade with one hand, … I thought that I was going to be J or R1b, but surprisingly I’m T1a2… (T-SK1480).

I also get i Vichinghi Foggiani … Top 10 Medieval Age:

 

[Kenshiro]

You're welcome

 

[Salento]

… new Deep Dive: ETR016 Siena Italy 470 AD

ETR016 470 AD :
MTA 60 SNPs deep dive (default) vs 60 SNPs GedM… 1-to-1

… MTA Larg. Seg. 60.7 cM vs GedM 9 cM (5.4 Generations)

 

[Salento]

… it depends on the settings, … also: the Data of ancient samples is often incomplete, … if you have a strong genetic affinity with an Ancient sample sometimes GedM gives you a generational estimate, … obviously it is only an indication of a positive genetic affinity.

 

[Salento]

… Vikings in my “Americas” map,
… maybe they’re the Foggia Vikings, or they’re related to them

… Happy Thanksgiving …

 

[Mike13]

Hello, my closest ancient populations
Roman (8.172)
Hellenic Roman + Roman (10.01)
Gallo-Roman + Hellenic Roman (10.78)
Roman Hispania + Roman (11.24)
Hellenic Roman + Roman Hispania (11.31)
Gallo-Roman + Roman (11.57)
Hellenic Roman (14.96)
Samnite (15.75)
Gallo-Roman (16.36)
Roman Hispania (16.45)

 

[Ivorix]

.

Sorry it wasn't it can you try with VK265 pls raw data

 

[Kenshiro]

Same in Americas but only Greenland ahahah

 

[Salento]

Sorry it wasn't it can you try with VK265 pls raw data

VK265 r. d. :

https://www.mediafire.com/file/uing4gjpypbrhnw/VK265.zip/file

 

[Salento]

Hello,

Just tried Mytrueancestry and got the results below:

ANCIENT
Hellenic Roman + Roman (5.652)
Ancient Greek + Hellenic Roman (6.693)
Hellenic Roman + Thracian (6.876)
Roman + Hittite (6.994)
Hellenic Roman + Hittite (7.404)
Hellenic Roman (9.079)
Roman (12.93)
Ancient Greek (13.62)
Hittite (14.91)
Thracian (15.84)

MODERN

1. South_Italian (3.346)
2. East_Sicilian (5.201)
3. Central_Greek (5.305)
4. Greek_Crete (6.273)
5. Italian_Jewish (7.485)
6. Greek_Islands (7.606)
7. Ashkenazi (8.316)
8. Italian_Abruzzo (8.665)

I'm just wondering if it's common to get also top match with ancient relatives? or they are just trying to get people to upgrade?


Hellenic Roman Marcellino 400 AD

You are the #8 top match to this sample!


Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy 905 AD


You are the #10 top match to this sample!


Thanks!

@Italian7 … yes, it’s common … we were already using GedMatch One-to-One with ancient samples long before the MTA “Ancient Relatives” came to be …


…

 

[torzio]

my new top in neolitihic ...............with number 20 which is zero match ?????

13. Copper Age Szigetszentmiklos Hungary
2350 BC - Genetic Distance: 10.09 - I7043
Top 98 % match vs all users

20. Bronze Age Bulgaria
3000 BC - Genetic Distance: 11.17 - I2165
Top 0 % match vs all users

54. Proto Thracian/Illyrian Vucedol
2775 BC - Genetic Distance: 14.18 - I3499
Top 97 % match vs all users

I2165, Bronze Age, 3020-2895 calBCE
http://biorxiv.org/content/early/2017/05/09/135616
doi: https://doi.org/10.1101/135616
I2165
mtDNA: T2f
Y-DNA: I2a2a1b1b


Balkans_BronzeAge I2165: Y-hg I2a2a1b1b mt-hg T2f 3020-2895 calBCE

Yamnaya_Bulgaria Bul4: Y-hg I2a2a1b1b mt-hg ? 3012-2900 calBCE


Both samples are from burial sites in present-day South-Central Bulgaria. Apart from sharing I2a2a1b1b, they each pack a fair bit of Yamnaya-related ancestry and are dated to a very similar time period. Unlike Bul4, I2165 does not make the cut archaeologically as a Yamnaya sample, but he does come from a Tumulus (Kurgan-like) burial, so perhaps he's from a group influenced by Yamnaya?

 

[Duarte]

My MTA Slovenians

3. Illyrian Slovenia
300 BC - Genetic Distance: 9.253 - I5692

5. Iron Age Slovenia
500 BC - Genetic Distance: 9.777 - I5698

51. Iron Age Obrezje Slovenia
301 BC - Genetic Distance: 12.01 - I5696

54. Iron Age Kapiteljska njive Slovenia
665 BC - Genetic Distance: 12.12 - I5691

55. Illyrian Slovenia
300 BC - Genetic Distance: 12.19 - I5693

 

[kile]

Gaul + Kievan Rus (6.093)
Frank + Kievan Rus (7.904)
Scythian + Gaul (7.945)
Thuringii + Kievan Rus (8.155)
Scythian + Frank (9.173)
Scythian (9.318)
Gaul (13.97)
Thuringii (16.24)
Frank (16.43)
Kievan Rus (16.68)

1. Croatian (5.145)
2. Moldavian (5.259)
3. Serbian (6.204)
4. Slovenian (6.442)
5. Austrian (7.214)
6. Hungarian (7.428)
7. Bosnian (8.283)
8. Romanian (8.788)


Your closest Archaeogenetic matches

1. Visigoth Mixed Slav Girona
550 AD - Genetic Distance: 6.699
Top 100 % match vs all users


2. [Hidden] - upgrade to Footman+ 9.318
Top 98 % match vs all users



3. Western-Scythian Black Sea
290 BC - Genetic Distance: 11.88
Top 97 % match vs all users


4. [Hidden] - upgrade to Footman+ 12.68
Top 0 % match vs all users



5. Bronze Age Bulgaria
3000 BC - Genetic Distance: 13.0
Top 0 % match vs all users


6. [Hidden] - upgrade to Footman+ 13.39
Top 94 % match vs all users



7. Cisalpine Gaul
590 AD - Genetic Distance: 13.97
Top 82 % match vs all users

8. [Hidden] - upgrade to Footman+ 14.41
Top 96 % match vs all users



9. Ancient Middle Helladic Elati-Logkas Greece
1861 BC - Genetic Distance: 14.52
Top 96 % match vs all users


10. [Hidden] - upgrade to Footman+ 14.92
Top 89 % match vs all users



11. Western Pomerania Unetice
2000 BC - Genetic Distance: 15.31
Top 82 % match vs all users


12. [Hidden] - upgrade to Footman+ 15.36
Top 91 % match vs all users



13. Medieval Tyrolian
580 AD - Genetic Distance: 15.44
Top 59 % match vs all users


14. [Hidden] - upgrade to Footman+ 15.49
Top 90 % match vs all users



15. Early Bronze Age Mednikarovo Bulgaria
2960 BC - Genetic Distance: 15.62
Top 98 % match vs all users


16. [Hidden] - upgrade to Footman+ 15.82
Top 90 % match vs all users



17. Medieval Germany Krakauer Berg Peissen
1140 AD - Genetic Distance: 16.01
Top 91 % match vs all users


18. [Hidden] - upgrade to Footman+ 16.24
Top 64 % match vs all users



19. Medieval Tyrolian
590 AD - Genetic Distance: 16.31
Top 57 % match vs all users


20. [Hidden] - upgrade to Footman+ 16.37
Top 82 % match vs all users


You have ancient relatives! (you share identified DNA segments)


Byzantine Roman Warrior 605 AD NS3b

mtDNA: [Upgrade to see] Y-DNA [Upgrade to see] cr Shared DNA: (Sample Quality 37) 2 SNP chains (min. 60 SNPs) /10.73 cM Largest chain:104 SNPs /7.2 cM
Your raw DNA is 73% closer than other matching users


Are these ancient relatives actually your relatives?