G25 Neolithic List Using Averaged Coordinates

qh777

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Tried my hand at making a neolithic list.
The Anatolia neolithic samples I added should not have Natufian admix.

Code: 
Yamnaya_Steppe:Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya,0.1258378,0.0892539,0.0429079,0.1154556,-0.0278684,0.0446846,0.0044911,-0.0029487,-0.0548579,-0.0729957,0.0018583,0.0003497,-0.0016518,-0.0236099,0.0372629,0.015734,1.00E-07,-0.001478,-0.001704,0.0125059,-0.0031197,0.001374,0.0112292,0.0184362,-0.0045237
Yamnaya_Steppe:Ukraine_EBA_Yamnaya,0.1200835,0.0913975,0.04714,0.1077215,-0.040469,0.0403,0.00564,0.0074995,-0.0572665,-0.078453,-0.0010555,0.0072685,0.005575,-0.0164455,0.021376,0.0088835,-0.008149,-0.0002535,0.00132,0.0098795,-0.0064885,0.010387,0.006039,0.020304,-0.0045505


Anatolia_Neolithic:Turkey_Boncuklu_N,0.1163274,0.169187,0.0135764,-0.070737,0.0552104,-0.036423,-0.0033372,-0.0031384,0.0342372,0.0788354,0.0094832,0.0148966,-0.0301482,0.002615,-0.0387616,-0.0055954,0.0294408,0.0051432,0.0108856,-0.0090544,-0.0077362,0.0076664,-0.0072962,-0.0107484,-0.0058678
Anatolia_Neolithic:Turkey_Boncuklu_N.SG,0.119514,0.166547,0.008297,-0.066215,0.055703,-0.041276,0.00517,-0.008077,0.029451,0.075992,0.006658,0.01139,-0.027651,-0.000138,-0.038545,-0.002519,0.027902,0.003927,0.016718,-0.016758,-0.018842,0.004946,-0.005053,-0.001446,-0.002994


WesternHunterGatherer:Spain_HG.SG,0.108701,0.07718,0.144814,0.1636005,0.126331,0.047969,0.011398,0.0281525,0.0860025,0.013941,-0.0090125,-0.0114645,0.016204,-0.008464,0.0494025,0.044285,-0.0063235,0.012162,-0.013827,0.054464,0.092337,0.0114375,-0.0475735,-0.1573115,0.019998
WesternHunterGatherer:England_Mesolithic,0.125205,0.109677,0.204022,0.196708,0.159414,0.055499,0.016921,0.036922,0.090604,0.018041,-0.01835,-0.010641,0.014271,0.000275,0.06406,0.06351,-0.000261,0.009882,-0.007039,0.066657,0.118541,0.017559,-0.054968,-0.177615,0.021196


Iran_Neolithic:Iran_GanjDareh_N,0.0430252,0.0674312,-0.153488,0.0055556,-0.1239616,0.0243752,0.015464,0.000277,-0.081605,-0.05427,-0.0032476,-0.0016186,0.0053816,-0.0078446,0.0319486,0.056775,-0.0058154,0.007576,0.014405,-0.0327406,0.0076614,-0.0300476,-0.0109198,-0.0387768,0.0229438
Iran_Neolithic:Iran_Wezmeh_N.SG,0.037562,0.072103,-0.165556,-0.016473,-0.11756,0.01506,0.017861,-0.003231,-0.071583,-0.046835,0.003085,-0.003147,0.00669,0.000688,0.022122,0.053036,-0.011735,0.001014,0.014581,-0.035267,0.009358,-0.023741,-0.006655,-0.032896,0.019998


Natufian:Israel_Natufian,0.020488,0.131003,-0.039221,-0.141475,0.027082,-0.0753,-0.017861,-0.025845,0.102671,-0.004556,0.030042,-0.020682,0.069573,-0.000963,0.020222,0.028772,-0.012647,0.008868,-0.021117,0.04252,-0.004243,-0.002597,-0.011955,-0.006386,0.011735
Natufian:Israel_Natufian_d,0.037562,0.155376,-0.023381,-0.137276,0.043085,-0.083388,-0.017861,-0.012923,0.124555,0.015672,0.030042,-0.020382,0.082209,0,0.003257,-0.012861,-0.008866,-0.010515,-0.017221,0.021385,0.015348,0.001855,0.008504,0.003735,0


China_Neolithic:China_YR_LN,0.0159354,-0.4498796,0.0098053,-0.0653383,0.053812,0.0222714,0.0038944,0.0027691,-0.0097587,0.0055711,-0.0828183,-0.0102981,0.012084,-0.0085327,-0.008531,-0.0015343,0.0023096,-0.0003617,-0.00422,-0.0076464,0.01656,0.0104047,0.0151771,0.0002236,0.0085534
China_Neolithic:China_YR_MN,0.0168458,-0.4445988,0.0144814,-0.060078,0.041423,0.011044,0.0072382,0.0004618,-0.0006138,0.006342,-0.0915546,-0.0117496,0.0126956,-0.0065508,-0.0106676,0.0002386,0.0046938,-0.0035724,-0.0047012,-0.002051,0.0140752,0.0156792,0.011043,-0.0033258,0.0120228


Japan:Japan_HG_Jomon,0.0106994,-0.3460924,-0.0530232,0.012274,0.0379146,0.0152274,-0.002773,-0.0007846,0.0256064,0.0189888,-0.0501782,-0.0083326,0.009098,-0.0063856,-0.0248098,-0.0170508,0.0053458,0.0094006,0.003922,-0.0048774,0.0638872,-0.0453804,0.0078138,0.0122908,-0.0984104


SSA:Congo_NgongoMbata_Protohistoric,-0.629442,0.064994,0.020742,0.00646,-0.013233,0.006414,-0.021621,0.014999,-0.033951,0.010023,0.004384,0.001349,-0.004311,-0.000826,-0.007872,0.010077,-0.010431,0.006841,0.005656,0,-0.006114,-0.004822,-0.004314,-0.00723,0.000239
SSA:Cameroon_SMA,-0.6075308,0.0553465,0.0153678,0.0260015,-0.002385,0.00251,0.1367175,-0.1052838,0.0087948,-0.001777,0.000812,-0.0306102,-0.023674,-0.000757,0.0041735,-0.0019558,0.008475,0.0187182,-0.0059392,-0.0026888,-0.0018405,-0.0009275,-0.0029272,-0.0018375,-0.0045202


Amerindian:Belize_9400BP,0.045529,-0.3229385,0.1108735,0.0954465,-0.115714,-0.019801,-0.2837755,-0.3310245,-0.005931,-0.0152165,-0.004547,-7.50E-05,0.000223,0.01968,-0.001968,0.005834,0.0076275,-0.000507,0.002451,-0.002251,0.000125,0.015271,-0.0020955,-0.0016265,-0.003473
Amerindian:USA_Nevada_SpiritCave_11000BP.SG,0.047806,-0.319892,0.122941,0.097869,-0.108328,-0.01506,-0.280368,-0.32814,-0.012885,-0.020046,-0.003085,0.004946,-0.001041,0.01913,-0.008686,0.004906,0.003781,0.00076,0.004148,0.005378,0.007237,-0.001855,0.001109,0.001205,-0.001317


Indonesia_Neolithic:Indonesia_Kayoa_GuaUattamdi_N,-0.001138,-0.376761,-0.103331,0.034561,0.152336,-0.083109,-0.0047,-0.010846,-0.020452,-0.021504,0.028093,0.004346,-0.004162,-0.000138,0.002307,0.009414,0.001173,0.006588,0.007542,-0.006878,0.005241,-0.022134,-0.004314,-0.001205,-0.041673
Indonesia_Neolithic:Indonesia_Flores_LiangBua_N_ProtoMetallic,-0.004553,-0.387932,-0.092017,-0.001938,0.152028,0.003904,0.00141,-0.011999,-0.019634,-0.018588,0.067716,0.005995,-0.006541,0.003853,0.007465,0.00053,0.006258,0.003041,0.002388,0.002626,-0.004866,-0.003957,-0.01479,0,0.002036


Vietnam_Neolithic:Vietnam_LN_HaLongCulture.SG,0.022765,-0.381839,-0.079572,-0.023579,0.136949,0.047969,0.00752,-0.012692,0.004909,-0.014032,0.063494,0.006594,-0.005054,-0.00289,-0.006379,-0.006099,0.000913,0.000253,-0.01169,0.019759,-0.007612,0.014344,-0.021199,-0.008435,0.040954
Vietnam_Neolithic:Vietnam_N,0.002276,-0.388948,-0.050911,-0.040698,0.137256,0.054941,0.00141,-0.006231,-0.012885,-0.006743,0.079733,-0.000749,-0.00996,0.00812,0.028094,-0.002652,-0.000782,-0.002787,-0.008045,0.014632,0.002246,0.000866,-0.005916,0.003012,0.036404


Malaysia_Neolithic:Malaysia_LN.SG,0.004553,-0.395041,-0.082212,-0.034238,0.153567,0.067213,-0.007755,-0.010384,-0.006545,-0.016219,0.091912,0.017984,-0.013528,0.008808,0.006107,-0.005038,-0.000652,-0.008488,-0.001885,0.021635,-0.013476,0.014344,-0.007641,0.010724,0.044307




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Distance to:Veritus_scaled
0.12303607Anatolia_Neolithic:Turkey_Boncuklu_N.SG
0.12626064Anatolia_Neolithic:Turkey_Boncuklu_N
0.19694368Yamnaya_Steppe:Ukraine_EBA_Yamnaya
0.19995832Yamnaya_Steppe:Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
0.24836503Natufian:Israel_Natufian_d
0.25462552Natufian:Israel_Natufian
0.30517320Iran_Neolithic:Iran_Wezmeh_N.SG
0.30867008Iran_Neolithic:Iran_GanjDareh_N
0.33469680WesternHunterGatherer:Spain_HG.SG
0.40787967WesternHunterGatherer:England_Mesolithic
0.53307168Japan:Japan_HG_Jomon
0.56954583Vietnam_Neolithic:Vietnam_LN_HaLongCulture.SG
0.57867824Vietnam_Neolithic:Vietnam_N
0.58071729Indonesia_Neolithic:Indonesia_Kayoa_GuaUattamdi_N
0.58287715Indonesia_Neolithic:Indonesia_Flores_LiangBua_N_ProtoMetallic
0.59559124Malaysia_Neolithic:Malaysia_LN.SG
0.61287960China_Neolithic:China_YR_MN
0.61822413China_Neolithic:China_YR_LN
0.67558001Amerindian:USA_Nevada_SpiritCave_11000BP.SG
0.68010520Amerindian:Belize_9400BP
0.75755692SSA:Cameroon_SMA
0.75842190SSA:Congo_NgongoMbata_Protohistoric
 
Target: Veritus_scaled
Distance: 0.0398% / 0.03984795
51.1 Anatolia_Neolithic
39.2 Yamnaya_Steppe
5.0 Natufian
4.7 WesternHunterGatherer
 
Distance to:OminoG25_scaled
0.10795055Anatolia_Neolithic:Turkey_Boncuklu_N.SG
0.11244460Anatolia_Neolithic:Turkey_Boncuklu_N
0.20787240Yamnaya_Steppe:Ukraine_EBA_Yamnaya
0.21156957Yamnaya_Steppe:Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
0.24098335Natufian:Israel_Natufian_d
0.24277692Natufian:Israel_Natufian
0.28077681Iran_Neolithic:Iran_Wezmeh_N.SG
0.28642477Iran_Neolithic:Iran_GanjDareh_N
0.36274443WesternHunterGatherer:Spain_HG.SG
0.43678450WesternHunterGatherer:England_Mesolithic
0.52880936Japan:Japan_HG_Jomon
0.56693755Vietnam_Neolithic:Vietnam_LN_HaLongCulture.SG
0.57630425Vietnam_Neolithic:Vietnam_N
0.57720266Indonesia_Neolithic:Indonesia_Kayoa_GuaUattamdi_N
0.57939358Indonesia_Neolithic:Indonesia_Flores_LiangBua_N_ProtoMetallic
0.59257975Malaysia_Neolithic:Malaysia_LN.SG
0.60942604China_Neolithic:China_YR_MN
0.61449070China_Neolithic:China_YR_LN
0.67421074Amerindian:USA_Nevada_SpiritCave_11000BP.SG
0.67846430Amerindian:Belize_9400BP
0.75753278SSA:Congo_NgongoMbata_Protohistoric
0.75798850SSA:Cameroon_SMA

Target: OminoG25_scaled
Distance: 0.0309% / 0.03091970
61.7Anatolia_Neolithic
28.9Yamnaya_Steppe
7.0Iran_Neolithic
2.4Natufian
 
Distance to:Me_scaled
0.13791774Yamnaya_Steppe:Ukraine_EBA_Yamnaya
0.13930522Yamnaya_Steppe:Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
0.20884468Anatolia_Neolithic:Turkey_Boncuklu_N.SG
0.21242901Anatolia_Neolithic:Turkey_Boncuklu_N
0.28860930WesternHunterGatherer:Spain_HG.SG
0.30898592Natufian:Israel_Natufian_d
0.31156998Natufian:Israel_Natufian
0.32871799Iran_Neolithic:Iran_GanjDareh_N
0.33350006Iran_Neolithic:Iran_Wezmeh_N.SG
0.36018333WesternHunterGatherer:England_Mesolithic
0.51636125Japan:Japan_HG_Jomon
0.55360813Vietnam_Neolithic:Vietnam_LN_HaLongCulture.SG
0.56212373Vietnam_Neolithic:Vietnam_N
0.56543169Indonesia_Neolithic:Indonesia_Kayoa_GuaUattamdi_N
0.56706777Indonesia_Neolithic:Indonesia_Flores_LiangBua_N_ProtoMetallic
0.58061676Malaysia_Neolithic:Malaysia_LN.SG
0.59320367China_Neolithic:China_YR_MN
0.59886301China_Neolithic:China_YR_LN
0.64978973Amerindian:USA_Nevada_SpiritCave_11000BP.SG
0.65624501Amerindian:Belize_9400BP
0.76693794SSA:Cameroon_SMA
0.77129483SSA:Congo_NgongoMbata_Protohistoric

Target: Me_scaled
Distance: 5.6903% / 0.05690311
52.6Yamnaya_Steppe
30.0Anatolia_Neolithic
13.6WesternHunterGatherer
3.0Natufian
0.8China_Neolithic
 
Target: TheHolyGoose_AncestryDNA_scaled
Distance: 5.3034% / 0.05303401
44.2Anatolia_Neolithic
44.2Yamnaya_Steppe
11.6WesternHunterGatherer

Distance to:TheHolyGoose_AncestryDNA_scaled
0.15999819Yamnaya_Steppe:Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
0.16196093Yamnaya_Steppe:Ukraine_EBA_Yamnaya
0.17752820Anatolia_Neolithic:Turkey_Boncuklu_N.SG
0.18019203Anatolia_Neolithic:Turkey_Boncuklu_N
0.29647438Natufian:Israel_Natufian_d
0.29855181WesternHunterGatherer:Spain_HG.SG
0.30132154Natufian:Israel_Natufian
0.32791719Iran_Neolithic:Iran_GanjDareh_N
0.33078591Iran_Neolithic:Iran_Wezmeh_N.SG
0.36831990WesternHunterGatherer:England_Mesolithic
0.53089071Japan:Japan_HG_Jomon
0.57001006Vietnam_Neolithic:Vietnam_LN_HaLongCulture.SG
0.57698766Vietnam_Neolithic:Vietnam_N
0.58018180Indonesia_Neolithic:Indonesia_Kayoa_GuaUattamdi_N
0.58243181Indonesia_Neolithic:Indonesia_Flores_LiangBua_N_ProtoMetallic
0.59546140Malaysia_Neolithic:Malaysia_LN.SG
0.61158667China_Neolithic:China_YR_MN
0.61665612China_Neolithic:China_YR_LN
0.66521193Amerindian:USA_Nevada_SpiritCave_11000BP.SG
0.67103598Amerindian:Belize_9400BP
0.76676331SSA:Cameroon_SMA
0.76894521SSA:Congo_NgongoMbata_Protohistoric
 
None of these neolithic lists produce good fits for me. But the main goal I think is to figure out what ones Steppe/WHG/ANF/Natufian admix is.
 
qh777 said:
None of these neolithic lists produce good fits for me. But the main goal I think is to figure out what ones Steppe/WHG/ANF/Natufian admix is.
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Add more samples from different regions like Barcin_N,Baltic_HG or Kotias_CHG.
It might produce better fits for you
 
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Omino said:
Add more samples from different regions like Barcin_N,Baltic_HG or Kotias_CHG.
It might produce better fits for you
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I left those out because Barcin has some Natufian admix. And I think Yamnaya steppe populations were a mix of CHG, EHG, and ANE. But I'll add and see what happens.
 
Added:

Code: 
CHG:Georgia_Kotias.SG,0.08992,0.103584,-0.088246,-0.004845,-0.089555,0.020359,0.023266,-0.001154,-0.130486,-0.080002,-0.007632,0.024878,-0.052626,0.007707,0.026465,-0.0297,0.027772,-0.010769,-0.023757,0.037518,0.030945,-0.006677,0.0053,-0.020846,0.001557


EHG:Latvia_HG,0.13111,0.1008548,0.1807822,0.1974751,0.1065198,0.0561443,0.0070649,0.0204943,0.0526009,-0.0261737,-0.0035319,-0.0181058,0.0270004,-0.0059351,0.0355418,0.0477736,0.0034469,0.0044104,-0.0065285,0.0427549,0.0605573,0.0122492,-0.0260517,-0.1122675,0.00949
EHG:Latvia_HG.SG,0.129758,0.109677,0.178378,0.195416,0.11356,0.056615,0.009635,0.023537,0.05604,-0.021504,-0.009743,-0.020382,0.028097,0.00578,0.043023,0.034473,-0.012256,0.010388,-0.004399,0.04227,0.066757,0.007666,-0.029826,-0.129777,0.006227

My result:

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qh777 said:
Added:

Code: 
CHG:Georgia_Kotias.SG,0.08992,0.103584,-0.088246,-0.004845,-0.089555,0.020359,0.023266,-0.001154,-0.130486,-0.080002,-0.007632,0.024878,-0.052626,0.007707,0.026465,-0.0297,0.027772,-0.010769,-0.023757,0.037518,0.030945,-0.006677,0.0053,-0.020846,0.001557


EHG:Latvia_HG,0.13111,0.1008548,0.1807822,0.1974751,0.1065198,0.0561443,0.0070649,0.0204943,0.0526009,-0.0261737,-0.0035319,-0.0181058,0.0270004,-0.0059351,0.0355418,0.0477736,0.0034469,0.0044104,-0.0065285,0.0427549,0.0605573,0.0122492,-0.0260517,-0.1122675,0.00949
EHG:Latvia_HG.SG,0.129758,0.109677,0.178378,0.195416,0.11356,0.056615,0.009635,0.023537,0.05604,-0.021504,-0.009743,-0.020382,0.028097,0.00578,0.043023,0.034473,-0.012256,0.010388,-0.004399,0.04227,0.066757,0.007666,-0.029826,-0.129777,0.006227

My result:

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What's your background?
 
I think this list is still useful. If one wishes to see one's WHG, Steppe, Natufian, ANF admix is.
The 1.6% Natufian could explain why I get these 2 way results and others.

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Yes you could narrow it down to British&Irish and French&German since Belgians on pca seem to plot within the large French cluster.
 
I fixed the list. Since merging my 4 DNA files and uploading to Illustrativedna for G25 coords, my Natufian went up.

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