Joey37
Regular member
- Messages
- 479
- Reaction score
- 108
- Points
- 43
- Location
- Coventry, Rhode Island
- Ethnic group
- Celto-Germanic
- Y-DNA haplogroup
- R1a-YP445
- mtDNA haplogroup
- J1c2b
I believe the former is more accurate than the latter.... unlike MTA, my Ancient dod k12 is almost an Italian (R) Timeline
(all Duarte and Jovialis R SZ CL I FN_2 Illyria ... samples):
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MTA top 10:
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Check it out:
https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/39706-Ancient-Rome-Test-V1-0?p=594823#post594823
Amazing to me that I'm as close to some of the Iberians of the Roman and Medieval period as I am to some Medieval and Late Antiquity Romans and closest of all to an Illyrian/Dalmatian.
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[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C8FF00, align: right"]5.88072274[/TD]
[TD]IllyrianDalmatian_I3313[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D7FF00, align: right"]6.32650773[/TD]
[TD]RomanCarthagoMixIberia_I8475[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #DBFF00, align: right"]6.44030279[/TD]
[TD]R1285_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #DCFF00, align: right"]6.46676117[/TD]
[TD]SZ43[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #DEFF00, align: right"]6.53661992[/TD]
[TD]R1287_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #EFFF00, align: right"]7.03668956[/TD]
[TD]ProtoThracianIllyrianVucedol_I3499[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F3FF00, align: right"]7.14881808[/TD]
[TD]R111__Imperial_Era__Via_Paisiello_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF200, align: right"]7.88178279[/TD]
[TD]CL36[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE900, align: right"]8.15250268[/TD]
[TD]ScythianSouthernMoldova_scy197[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE200, align: right"]8.36475343[/TD]
[TD]SZ28[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFCF00, align: right"]8.92554760[/TD]
[TD]R1016_Iron_Age_____Castel_di_Decima[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC600, align: right"]9.17988562[/TD]
[TD]SZ31[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC500, align: right"]9.21016829[/TD]
[TD]CL23[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC400, align: right"]9.24803222[/TD]
[TD]IllyrianDalmatian_I4331[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC200, align: right"]9.30224167[/TD]
[TD]R1283_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC200, align: right"]9.30524583[/TD]
[TD]ScythianSouthernMoldova_scy192[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFBC00, align: right"]9.47417543[/TD]
[TD]R33___Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFBC00, align: right"]9.47641282[/TD]
[TD]R1015_Iron_Age_____Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFBA00, align: right"]9.54090667[/TD]
[TD]ScythianMoldova_SCY300[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFB800, align: right"]9.59307563[/TD]
[TD]IllyrianDalmatian_I4332[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFB800, align: right"]9.59990625[/TD]
[TD]R120__Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFB300, align: right"]9.74779462[/TD]
[TD]R36___Late_Antiquity_Celio[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFB000, align: right"]9.81179392[/TD]
[TD]R110__Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFB000, align: right"]9.81848257[/TD]
[TD]R1____Iron_Age_____Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9C00, align: right"]10.41360648[/TD]
[TD]PortugueseCordobaCaliphate_I12516[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9C00, align: right"]10.41424025[/TD]
[TD]SZ36[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9600, align: right"]10.57665354[/TD]
[TD]R1021_Iron_Age_____Boville_Ernica[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9400, align: right"]10.65957316[/TD]
[TD]R118__Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9000, align: right"]10.77751827[/TD]
[TD]R473__Iron_Age_____Civitavecchia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF8E00, align: right"]10.82190833[/TD]
[TD]R474__Iron_Age_____Civitavecchia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF7F00, align: right"]11.25718437[/TD]
[TD]R55___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF7700, align: right"]11.48748885[/TD]
[TD]R113__Imperial_Era__Via_Paisiello_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF6500, align: right"]12.03847582[/TD]
[TD]SZ19[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF6400, align: right"]12.06772970[/TD]
[TD]Bavaria_BB_II5524[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF6100, align: right"]12.14752238[/TD]
[TD]HispanoRomanTaifaofValencia_I12647[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF5300, align: right"]12.56763701[/TD]
[TD]SpaniardCordobaCaliphate_I12515[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF4800, align: right"]12.87379121[/TD]
[TD]GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10853[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF4700, align: right"]12.90000388[/TD]
[TD]R851__Iron_Age_____Ardea[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF4400, align: right"]12.99464505[/TD]
[TD]R52___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF4100, align: right"]13.07947629[/TD]
[TD]IberianCordobaCaliphate_I7498[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF3C00, align: right"]13.22874522[/TD]
[TD]R969__Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF3B00, align: right"]13.25014717[/TD]
[TD]EarlyMedievalIberiaGranada_I3981[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF3900, align: right"]13.33739855[/TD]
[TD]R105__Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF3800, align: right"]13.36636824[/TD]
[TD]R835__Imperial_Era__Civitanova_Marche[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF3400, align: right"]13.46236235[/TD]
[TD]CL121[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF3200, align: right"]13.51517665[/TD]
[TD]R970__Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF2E00, align: right"]13.64184738[/TD]
[TD]SZ37[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF2A00, align: right"]13.75852463[/TD]
[TD]SZ40[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF1E00, align: right"]14.11183546[/TD]
[TD]R121__Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF1E00, align: right"]14.11645848[/TD]
[TD]GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10892[/TD]
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@Angela
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Ancient DNA sheds light on the genetic origins of early Iron Age Philistines
https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/5/7/eaax0061
https://www.ebi.ac.uk/ena/data/view/PRJEB31035
ASH2-3_Iron_Age1,4.96,0,12.41,0,10.20,0,4.20,0,1.89,0,66.34,0
ASH008_Iron_Age2,10.84,0,4.00,0,11.39,0,0,0.63,29.23,0,43.90,0
ASH029_Late_Bronze_Age,8.31,0,9.61,0,12.28,6.19,0,0,27.92,0,35.69,0
ASH033_Late_Bronze_Age,5.83,0,4.07,0,10.30,3.87,0,0,28.76,0,47.17,0
ASH034_Late_Bronze_Age,10.82,0,3.64,0.66,14.01,0,0,0.84,25.02,0,45.01,0
ASH066_Iron_Age1,9.21,0,7.83,0,15.39,0,5.06,0.07,22.99,0.97,37.59,0.90
ASH067_Iron_Age1,9.18,0,3.02,0,23.86,2.30,0,0,19.31,0,42.33,0
ASH068_Iron_Age1,0,0,0,1.65,39.53,8.59,0,0.65,14.61,0,34.97,0
ASH087_Iron_Age2,5.64,1.37,3.88,0,12.66,0,0,2.67,32.15,0,41.63,0
ASH135_Iron_Age2,5.14,0,17.24,0.39,6.20,6.72,0,3.35,27.59,0,33.18,0.18
It seems K13 worked better than K15 for us.It worked well for me and my parents, but my mother got Trentino at first, before Veneto, and she's Venetian in ancestry. My father and I got Veneto at first.
Doing the same here. Still not that good.Eurogenes K15 updated spreadsheet.
Source excluded (Vahaduo default):
Italy_Aostavalley,26.62,25.03,7.48,4.39,17.71,6.75,9.38,1.80,0.00,0.02,0.17,0.19,0.14,0.15,0.16
Italy_Piedmont,21.38,25.13,7.86,4.01,19.32,6.70,12.69,2.19,0.11,0.01,0.06,0.12,0.24,0.13,0.03
Italy_Trentino,21.92,21.72,11.28,5.55,18.46,5.83,13.09,1.32,0.00,0.03,0.11,0.16,0.47,0.06,0.00
Italy_Abruzzo,11.25,15.03,6.36,2.91,16.39,15.65,26.38,5.48,0.00,0.08,0.00,0.00,0.23,0.17,0.07
Italy_Apulia,9.50,14.93,6.66,2.94,17.44,14.90,27.24,4.99,0.03,0.05,0.00,0.18,0.58,0.55,0.01
Italy_Calabria,8.07,12.92,4.55,1.98,17.48,15.12,31.66,6.46,0.13,0.11,0.04,0.09,0.36,0.97,0.07
Italy_Campania,8.83,15.10,5.33,2.06,18.31,14.96,29.68,5.57,0.12,0.14,0.04,0.06,0.13,0.56,0.08
Italy_Central_Sicily,8.94,14.64,4.78,1.31,17.60,14.12,29.14,6.68,0.05,0.15,0.03,0.14,0.20,1.84,0.36
Italy_East_Sicily,8.07,12.81,4.41,1.82,18.07,15.44,30.59,6.26,0.22,0.18,0.13,0.07,0.23,1.20,0.48
Italy_West_Sicily,9.37,13.38,4.79,1.71,18.12,13.93,30.01,5.89,0.32,0.25,0.05,0.16,0.21,0.98,0.85
Italy_Emiliaromagna,17.94,19.13,7.04,3.17,20.08,8.91,19.65,3.29,0.03,0.12,0.00,0.04,0.29,0.15,0.02
Italy_Friuli,19.00,21.50,10.42,6.03,17.50,7.38,14.76,2.41,0.28,0.15,0.02,0.34,0.06,0.13,0.00
Italy_Lazio,15.18,17.36,7.06,2.43,19.99,9.92,23.83,3.74,0.07,0.14,0.03,0.10,0.03,0.05,0.09
Italy_Liguria,18.23,21.71,6.84,3.24,20.21,7.98,17.82,3.03,0.11,0.17,0.07,0.23,0.24,0.03,0.08
Italy_Lombardy,21.50,22.45,6.34,2.73,20.71,6.38,16.91,2.27,0.11,0.21,0.08,0.06,0.16,0.07,0.00
Italy_Marche,15.34,17.26,5.97,2.22,19.56,11.73,22.54,4.32,0.21,0.10,0.00,0.37,0.10,0.27,0.07
Italy_Tuscany,17.25,20.05,6.52,2.79,20.41,9.07,19.20,3.54,0.57,0.25,0.02,0.06,0.14,0.08,0.02
Italy_Veneto,21.07,21.37,8.50,5.45,18.65,7.15,14.69,2.42,0.14,0.18,0.05,0.08,0.15,0.09,0.00
Source included (Salento):
Italia_Val_d_Aosta,25.41,24.37,9.11,2.14,18.18,5.18,12.89,1.82,0,0.14,0.26,0.05,0.23,0.14,0.03
Italia_Piemonte,19.28,23.71,7.82,4.67,19.93,6.66,14.21,2.82,0.6,0.01,0.1,0.09,0.15,0.01,0.17
Italia_Ticino,22.8,23.57,6.92,5.78,20.65,4.11,13.15,2.55,0,0,0,0.21,0.02,0.19,0
Italia_Insubria,20.25,23.17,6.95,2.68,21.05,6.51,16.43,2.23,0.02,0.19,0.04,0.04,0.11,0.15,0.03
Italia_Lombardia,19.84,22.41,6.98,3.53,20.32,7.22,15.92,2.73,0.34,0.2,0.12,0,0.22,0.03,0.02
Italia_Orobia,18.64,23.16,7.08,3.13,21.11,6.94,16.78,2.39,0.13,0.11,0.12,0.06,0.12,0.15,0
Italia_Bergamo,17.2,24.91,6.3,3.61,21.1,7.11,16.52,2.7,0.08,0.11,0.04,0,0.16,0.12,0
Italia_Brescia,18.29,23.54,6.24,3.38,21.57,6.58,17.99,1.88,0.13,0,0.15,0.13,0.01,0.05,0
Italia_Trentino,21.17,21.45,9.97,5.67,19.19,5.71,14.14,1.6,0,0.08,0.05,0.34,0.38,0.19,0
Italia_Veneto,18.38,22.48,9.33,4.48,19.47,8.18,14.8,1.87,0.13,0.19,0.38,0.2,0.03,0,0.02
Italia_Friuli,18.28,20.89,9.71,6.3,17.72,7.73,15.61,2.73,0.27,0.23,0,0.34,0.09,0.03,0
Italia_Liguria,18.89,20.85,6.57,3.3,19.99,8.12,18.12,3.21,0.3,0.11,0.05,0.14,0.2,0.04,0.05
Italia_Emilia_Est,19.61,17.93,6.98,2.85,20.51,7.47,19.69,3.92,0.1,0.31,0.01,0,0.36,0.16,0.03
Italia_Emilia,17.09,22.09,6.51,2.76,20.45,7.88,19.25,2.66,0.12,0.23,0,0.25,0.56,0.09,0.01
Italia_Romagna,15.39,19.53,6.06,2.76,20.02,11.42,20.81,3.53,0,0.27,0,0.08,0.03,0.06,0
Italia_Ager_Gallicus,14.31,17.3,6.24,2.66,20.71,11.7,22.42,3.15,0.29,0.21,0,0.49,0.17,0.32,0
Italia_Toscana,16.08,19.73,7.22,3.37,20.24,9.46,19.64,3.33,0.43,0.14,0,0.03,0.08,0.1,0.06
Italia_Marche,14.58,16.59,6.1,1.66,18.6,12.77,24.22,5.27,0.08,0.07,0.02,0.27,0.12,0.13,0.15
Italia_Umbria,11.81,20.9,4.8,3.84,18.93,11.3,23.12,4.06,0.26,0.25,0,0,0.61,0.08,0
Italia_Lazio,15.38,17.54,5.91,2.24,19.39,11.2,23.65,3.75,0.22,0.13,0.08,0.31,0.1,0.14,0.02
FR_Italia_Corsica,15.68,20.17,4.72,2.02,22.97,7.39,22.33,3.9,0.04,0,0.12,0.08,0.41,0.1,0
Italia_Abruzzo,12.63,15.65,6,2.53,17.25,13.12,26.55,5.01,0.11,0.11,0.24,0.12,0.27,0.35,0
Italia_Campania,10.22,15.97,5.69,1.76,17.24,14.18,27.95,5.58,0.36,0.18,0.01,0.1,0.08,0.44,0.07
Italia_Molise,12.64,15.55,4.9,2.66,19.12,13.88,26.57,4.89,0.12,0.17,0.12,0.21,0.07,0.16,0.03
Italia_Basilicata,12.9,13.78,5.31,2.62,17.24,14.57,26.56,5.49,0.2,0.05,0,0,0.32,0.75,0.16
Italia_Salento,10.2,15.75,4.62,2.93,18.01,14.06,29.54,4.33,0,0,0,0.09,0.22,0.16,0
Italia_Puglia,11.44,13.61,6.71,2.69,17.81,15.01,26.47,5.1,0.18,0.02,0.01,0.16,0.32,0.3,0.09
Italia_Calabria,7.3,14.31,5.07,0.88,17.24,16.23,30.57,6.58,0.11,0.33,0,0.03,0.33,0.72,0.19
Italia_Sicilia,9.54,14.62,4.97,1.31,18.21,15.22,28,5.32,0.08,0.38,0.31,0.17,0.23,1.28,0.48
MA_Malta,6.412,15.962,4.828,1.31,18.664,13.406,29.816,5.644,0,0.51,0.108,0,0.286,1.724,1.322
Italia_Sardegna,8.1,21.38,1.97,0,43.44,1.07,19.54,3.13,0,0.11,0,0,0.15,0.43,0.04