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[torzio]

these are the K36-Ancient coordinates I used ...

thank you

mine below

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH]TorzioK36[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]12.36590474[/TD]
[TD]EMA_northItalian_NW_54[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]12.37925280[/TD]
[TD]CL36_northItalian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]13.22682502[/TD]
[TD]CL57_northItalian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]14.32804941[/TD]
[TD]SZ28_northItalian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]14.44072713[/TD]
[TD]R1_Iron_Age_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]15.39026316[/TD]
[TD]CL63_Alpine[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]15.57323987[/TD]
[TD]SZ43_northItalian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]15.89389820[/TD]
[TD]SZ37_Greek_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]16.28380484[/TD]
[TD]BA_Hungary_BR2[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]16.39436184[/TD]
[TD]SZ36_northItalian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]16.54069829[/TD]
[TD]SZ18_Pannonian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]16.84715406[/TD]
[TD]SZ45_Pannonian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]17.90950586[/TD]
[TD]SZ32_northItalian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]18.46182548[/TD]
[TD]EMA_Alpine_STR_310[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]18.56165941[/TD]
[TD]CL47_Alpine[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]18.65368864[/TD]
[TD]CL121__northItalian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]18.65717288[/TD]
[TD]CL94_Iberian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]18.75088798[/TD]
[TD]I10892_Catalonia_medieval[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]18.91868653[/TD]
[TD]CL23_northItalian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]19.05146714[/TD]
[TD]CL102_Frankish[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]19.19072172[/TD]
[TD]BA_Hungary_RISE373[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]19.24466160[/TD]
[TD]R437_Iron_Age_Praeneste[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]19.49585341[/TD]
[TD]Visigoth_southEuro_mixed_I12031[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]19.81290993[/TD]
[TD]SZ5_Pannonian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]19.86682410[/TD]
[TD]i3757_Celtiberian_IA[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]


interesting...only one of the first 16 is not from north adriatic area ....sample SZ37 ....any idea on this one ?

 

[Salento]

@Torzio
... from MTA:

SZ37 Roman Outlier Lombard Grave (590 AD) ♂
Culture: Post-Roman

Y-DNA: R1b - mtDNA: H66a

Similar Samples:
Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) (5.902)
Gallo-Roman (590 AD) (6.463)
Central Roman (590 AD) (7.997)
Byzantine Roman Warrior (605 AD) (8.425)
Scythian Southern Moldova (270 BC) (10.16)

Modern:
1. North_Italian (9.137)
2. Tuscan (11.53)
3. Kosovan (12.13)
4. Spanish_Andalucia (12.38)
5. Spanish_Valencia (13.70)
6. Spanish_Murcia (14.45)
7. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (14.50)
8. Spanish_Cataluna (14.71)

 

[torzio]

@Torzio
... from MTA:

SZ37 Roman Outlier Lombard Grave (590 AD) ♂
Culture: Post-Roman

Y-DNA: R1b - mtDNA: H66a

Similar Samples:
Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) (5.902)
Gallo-Roman (590 AD) (6.463)
Central Roman (590 AD) (7.997)
Byzantine Roman Warrior (605 AD) (8.425)
Scythian Southern Moldova (270 BC) (10.16)

Modern:
1. North_Italian (9.137)
2. Tuscan (11.53)
3. Kosovan (12.13)
4. Spanish_Andalucia (12.38)
5. Spanish_Valencia (13.70)
6. Spanish_Murcia (14.45)
7. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (14.50)
8. Spanish_Cataluna (14.71)

thanks

why is he classed Greek_Italian ?

There is no Greek in ancient Kosovo ( dardania )

In fact looks central european to me

In the study Understanding 6th-Century Barbarian Social Organization and Migration through Paleogenomics, Carlos Eduardo G. Amorim et al., there are four good quality WGS samples from sixth century Longobard cemeteries in Hungary and Northern Italy who's files were analysed by Alex Williamson. One was DF27. Longobards were a Germanic people who ruled most of the Italian Peninsula from 568 to 774 AD. SZ5 (SRR6703600), buried with a spatha and lance, from Szólád, Hungary is: DF27/S250>Z195/S355>Z198>ZS312>FGC39101>BY3195. Full paper in Nature, September 2018, here. Hopefully similar more informative WGS (Whole Genome Sequencing) will be used on some of the Amesbury Bell Beaker samples one day. 'SZ27B, SZ37 and SZ42 were in fact U152 > L2

 

[Salento]

thanks

why is he classed Greek_Italian ?

There is no Greek in ancient Kosovo ( dardania )

In fact looks central european to me

In the study Understanding 6th-Century Barbarian Social Organization and Migration through Paleogenomics, Carlos Eduardo G. Amorim et al., there are four good quality WGS samples from sixth century Longobard cemeteries in Hungary and Northern Italy who's files were analysed by Alex Williamson. One was DF27. Longobards were a Germanic people who ruled most of the Italian Peninsula from 568 to 774 AD. SZ5 (SRR6703600), buried with a spatha and lance, from Szólád, Hungary is: DF27/S250>Z195/S355>Z198>ZS312>FGC39101>BY3195. Full paper in Nature, September 2018, here. Hopefully similar more informative WGS (Whole Genome Sequencing) will be used on some of the Amesbury Bell Beaker samples one day. 'SZ27B, SZ37 and SZ42 were in fact U152 > L2

Maybe it's classified Greek_Italian because they used something similar to this, and if correct, it makes sense

 

[Archetype0ne]

Hey Salento, hope you are doing well.

Not sure how the classification makes sense based on the images from the calculator? Maybe I did not get something...
Have to agree with Torzio's point.

 

[Stuvanè]

My results with k36 coordinates by Salento #902 (thanks Salento)


Distance to: Stuvanè_Eurogenesk36

9.93392672 CL36_northItalian
12.02185094 SZ36_northItalian
12.06894362 SZ28_northItalian
13.27100976 CL121__northItalian
13.38824858 R1_Iron_Age_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro
14.30983578 SZ43_northItalian
14.78284140 SZ32_northItalian
14.90180862 CL23_northItalian
15.13772110 EMA_northItalian_NW_54
15.60571049 R437_Iron_Age_Praeneste
15.61234447 SZ18_Pannonian
15.71720395 CL57_northItalian
16.33817003 SZ45_Pannonian
16.45430643 Niederstotzingen_north-Italian_3c
16.53333300 CL94_Iberian
17.61470408 CL47_Alpine
17.95235361 SZ19_Italian_Balkan
18.07129215 I10892_Catalonia_medieval
18.22531481 SZ1_GreekBalkan
18.32216144 EMA_northItalian_FN_2
18.61966434 BA_Hungary_BR2
19.80909640 i3757_Celtiberian_IA
19.82998235 EMA_GreekBalkan_AEH_1
19.90418800 Visigoth_southEuro_mixed_I12031
19.95119545 SZ40_Italian
20.01606605 DA199HungaryMedieval
20.26193969 SZ37_Greek_Italian
20.48415973 CL63_Alpine
20.53196532 EMA_Alpine_STR_310
20.76098023 CL31_Greek_Balkan
21.41646563 BA_Hungary_RISE373
21.65420283 I7424_Morisco_Andalusia_1500AD
21.84685332 I3578_EMA_Andalusia
22.19948198 CL25_south_Italian
22.40874383 CL38_GreeksouthItalian
22.43574603 LBA_Armenia_RISE397
22.45514418 BA_Hungary_RISE480
22.46555586 BA_Hungary_RISE483
22.92738101 SZ5_Pannonian
23.02690383 I2462_Bronze_Age_England_Kent
23.40328182 EMA_Alpine_STR_535
23.63891706 CL30_GreeksouthItalian
23.97190856 BA_I9006_Mycenean
24.09992324 I1979_Beaker_North_Italy
24.10233599 i7425_Morisco_Andalusia_1500AD
24.17945202 N_Bar31_Anatolia
24.29898146 BA_I9041_Mycenaean
24.31723257 EMA_Italian_STR_502
24.48632680 BA_Hungary_RISE247
24.88046824 N_Greece_Revenia5

Target: Stuvanè_Eurogenesk36
Distance: 7.3619% / 7.36191431 | ADC: 1x

46.0 CL36_northItalian
26.0 SZ36_northItalian
23.0 SZ28_northItalian
5.0 CL121__northItalian

Target: Stuvanè_Eurogenesk36
Distance: 4.8260% / 4.82603778 | ADC: 0.5x

32.4 SZ28_northItalian
25.6 CL121__northItalian
16.4 Niederstotzingen_north-Italian_3c
12.4 SZ36_northItalian
7.0 SZ18_Pannonian
4.2 CL23_northItalian
2.0 EMA_northItalian_FN_2

Target: Stuvanè_Eurogenesk36
Distance: 2.8421% / 2.84212732 | ADC: 0.25x

27.4 CL121__northItalian
21.2 Niederstotzingen_north-Italian_3c
19.4 SZ28_northItalian
11.2 EMA_northItalian_FN_2
9.2 SZ18_Pannonian
4.6 N_Levant_AinGhazal4
3.8 CWC_Poland_RISE1
1.6 LBA_Armenia_RISE412
1.2 MN_Germany_I0559
0.2 R437_Iron_Age_Praeneste
0.2 BA_Hungary_RISE254

 

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[Archetype0ne]

Likewise "My results with k36 coordinates by Salento #902". Thank you Salento.


[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Archetype0ne[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0001, align: right"]15.02325531[/TD]
[TD]SZ32_northItalian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0015, align: right"]15.60877958[/TD]
[TD]EMA_Alpine_STR_310[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF004B, align: right"]17.20377284[/TD]
[TD]EMA_northItalian_NW_54[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF004C, align: right"]17.23085895[/TD]
[TD]SZ1_GreekBalkan[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF004E, align: right"]17.28210635[/TD]
[TD]R1_Iron_Age_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0063, align: right"]17.91060021[/TD]
[TD]EMA_GreekBalkan_AEH_1[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0064, align: right"]17.93035136[/TD]
[TD]SZ36_northItalian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0081, align: right"]18.80814185[/TD]
[TD]SZ28_northItalian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0082, align: right"]18.83637704[/TD]
[TD]CL36_northItalian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF008B, align: right"]19.07851671[/TD]
[TD]SZ45_Pannonian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF008B, align: right"]19.08825031[/TD]
[TD]Visigoth_southEuro_mixed_I12031[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0093, align: right"]19.33016037[/TD]
[TD]SZ18_Pannonian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF009F, align: right"]19.67420901[/TD]
[TD]CL23_northItalian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00B6, align: right"]20.34097343[/TD]
[TD]SZ5_Pannonian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00C2, align: right"]20.69674129[/TD]
[TD]CL121__northItalian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00C9, align: right"]20.91450932[/TD]
[TD]BA_Hungary_BR2[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00D6, align: right"]21.28352180[/TD]
[TD]DA199HungaryMedieval[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00E0, align: right"]21.57918210[/TD]
[TD]I7424_Morisco_Andalusia_1500AD[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00E1, align: right"]21.62697390[/TD]
[TD]R437_Iron_Age_Praeneste[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00EE, align: right"]22.00965243[/TD]
[TD]SZ43_northItalian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #EF00FF, align: right"]22.96952546[/TD]
[TD]Gepid_Vim2[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #EB00FF, align: right"]23.09229309[/TD]
[TD]Niederstotzingen_north-Italian_3c[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E800FF, align: right"]23.16553906[/TD]
[TD]I10892_Catalonia_medieval[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E200FF, align: right"]23.36344153[/TD]
[TD]SZ37_Greek_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E000FF, align: right"]23.40365570[/TD]
[TD]LBA_Armenia_RISE397[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TH="class: singleheader, colspan: 2, align: left"]Target: Archetype0ne
Distance: 6.9845% / 6.98452301

[/TH]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]14.8[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]EMA_GreekBalkan_AEH_1[/TD]

[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]13.4[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]N_Germany_I0797[/TD]

[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]12.8[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]N_Levant_AinGhazal4[/TD]

[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]10.6[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]DA112_HallstattBylany_800BC[/TD]

[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]9.8[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]CHL_Yamnaya_Kalmykia_RISE546[/TD]

[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]8.8[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]MA2198_Anatolia_IA[/TD]

[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]8.0[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Baiuvarii_Germanic_AEd_92[/TD]

[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]5.2[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]EMA_Greek_STR_300[/TD]

[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]4.6[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]EN_Iberia_I0411_I041[/TD]

[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]4.4[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]I1979_Beaker_North_Italy[/TD]

[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]3.0[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]I3496_Iberian_Catalonia_200BCE[/TD]

[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]2.6[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]N_Germany_I0795[/TD]

[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]1.8[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]AV2_Hungary_Szolad[/TD]

[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]0.2[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]MBA_Armenia_RISE416[/TD]

Think this calculator is not a good match for me, the distances are quite far.

 

[kingdavid]

with living dna raw data ( which use different chip and different markers compared to ftdna raw data)
i am still with this greek lady from late antiquity south germany
although with living dna raw data the distance is more far now in 1 point ......

[TABLE="class: yiv4392971082ydpf16eec81distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]adam[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF3E00, align: right"]13.16700801[/TD]
[TD]EMA_GreekBalkan_AEH_1[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0900, align: right"]14.73390987[/TD]
[TD]CL25_south_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0010, align: right"]15.46893338[/TD]
[TD]R850_Iron_Age_Ardea[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF002E, align: right"]16.34879506[/TD]
[TD]CL38_GreeksouthItalian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF002F, align: right"]16.38021367[/TD]
[TD]SZ36_northItalian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0036, align: right"]16.59023508[/TD]
[TD]CL30_GreeksouthItalian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0047, align: right"]17.07448389[/TD]
[TD]Crimean_Goth_Ker_1[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0049, align: right"]17.15379258[/TD]
[TD]CL31_Greek_Balkan[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0065, align: right"]17.98479636[/TD]
[TD]SZ43_northItalian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF006A, align: right"]18.11073163[/TD]
[TD]CL121__northItalian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF006E, align: right"]18.22676329[/TD]
[TD]R437_Iron_Age_Praeneste[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF008A, align: right"]19.07199255[/TD]
[TD]R1_Iron_Age_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF008B, align: right"]19.08378893[/TD]
[TD]I7424_Morisco_Andalusia_1500AD[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00A5, align: right"]19.86637612[/TD]
[TD]SZ32_northItalian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00B7, align: right"]20.39505332[/TD]
[TD]i3808_Morisco_Andalusia_1500AD[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00D4, align: right"]21.24106636[/TD]
[TD]SZ40_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00D5, align: right"]21.27489130[/TD]
[TD]CL36_northItalian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00E9, align: right"]21.85878771[/TD]
[TD]SZ1_GreekBalkan[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00F5, align: right"]22.19864185[/TD]
[TD]Niederstotzingen_north-Italian_3c[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00FA, align: right"]22.35110512[/TD]
[TD]EMA_Alpine_STR_310[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00FE, align: right"]22.45618400[/TD]
[TD]MA2198_Anatolia_IA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00FE, align: right"]22.45631537[/TD]
[TD]EN_Anatolia_Tepe002[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F000FF, align: right"]22.93358018[/TD]
[TD]SZ37_Greek_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E000FF, align: right"]23.40728733[/TD]
[TD]SZ19_Italian_Balkan[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D500FF, align: right"]23.74165116[/TD]
[TD]CL23_northItalian[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

 

[Salento]

Distances can be reformatted ...

13.31 or 1.331
13.32 or 1.332

look below:

 

[torzio]

Maybe it's classified Greek_Italian because they used something similar to this, and if correct, it makes sense

what is this?.............Albania_FYROM ( former yugoslav republic of Macedonia ) , it it the old Paeonia , who sat between the ancient dardanians and the macedonians?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paeonia_(kingdom)

 

[torzio]

@Torzio
... from MTA:

SZ37 Roman Outlier Lombard Grave (590 AD) ♂
Culture: Post-Roman

Y-DNA: R1b - mtDNA: H66a

Similar Samples:
Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) (5.902)
Gallo-Roman (590 AD) (6.463)
Central Roman (590 AD) (7.997)
Byzantine Roman Warrior (605 AD) (8.425)
Scythian Southern Moldova (270 BC) (10.16)

Modern:
1. North_Italian (9.137)
2. Tuscan (11.53)
3. Kosovan (12.13)
4. Spanish_Andalucia (12.38)
5. Spanish_Valencia (13.70)
6. Spanish_Murcia (14.45)
7. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (14.50)
8. Spanish_Cataluna (14.71)

MTA does match what you have above, with what they give me

1. North_Italian (5.281)
2. Kosovan (9.960)
3. Tuscan (10.13)
4. Spanish_Andalucia (11.97)
5. Bosnian (12.05)
6. Spanish_Extremadura (12.64)
7. Bulgarian (12.75)
8. Portuguese (12.88)





1. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) ..... 4.076 - R1 -
Top 99 % match vs all users

2. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 7.332 - SZ28 - ?
Top 99 % match vs all users

3. Marseilles Plague Victim (1721 AD) ..... 8.455 - OBS137 - ?
Top 99 % match vs all users

4. Roman Outlier Lombard Grave (590 AD) ..... 8.676 - SZ37 -
Top 99 % match vs all users

5. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 8.937 - I3313 -
Top 98 % match vs all users

6. Bronze Age Szolad Hungary (1000 BC) ..... 9.36 - SZ1
Top 98 % match vs all users

7. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 9.695 - SZ36 -
Top 98 % match vs all users

8. Central Roman (630 AD) ..... 9.874 - CL36 - ?
Top 98 % match vs all users

9. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 10.0 - scy197b -
Top 98 % match vs all users

 

[Salento]

... got it, ... I didn't name the Labels,

I’m deleting the Image on post #910 ...

... clean your cookies if you still see it.

 

[Lukas]

Distances can be reformatted ...

13.31 or 1.331
13.32 or 1.332

look below:

Yes, it is what I suggested to yourdnaportal. For some unexplained reason K36 in every Dodecad based oracle has 10 times bigger distances than other calculators. It doesn't mean it is completely non-fitted for everybody, it would be impossible

 

[Salento]

Yes, it is what I suggested to yourdnaportal. For some unexplained reason K36 in every Dodecad based oracle has 10 times bigger distances than other calculators. It doesn't mean it is completely non-fitted for everybody, it would be impossible

... then I subtract my distances by 10

CL25 3.75
SZ40 3.96
R437 5.31
SZ36 5.38
..........

 

[Lukas]

... then I subtract my distances by 10

CL25 3.75
SZ40 3.96
R437 5.31
SZ36 5.38
..........

Sorry but should be:

CL25 1.375
SZ40 1.396
R437 1.531
SZ36 1.538
..........

If you divide by 10 This is what you have to do with them.

 

[Salento]

Sorry but should be:

CL25 1.375
SZ40 1.396
R437 1.531
SZ36 1.538
..........

If you divide by 10 This is what you have to do with them.

thanks, I thought so too at first, but after dividing, it seemed too close so I subtracted.

thanks again for letting me know!

 

[Lukas]

thanks, I thought so too at first, but after dividing, it seemed too close so I subtracted.

thanks again for letting me know!

Certainly it must multpiling results which is a glitch in calculation. If it would add 10 it would be on purpose which would be crazy.
In my opinion at least.

In G25 everyone has distances like 0.01 or 0.02 so it i is too close...

 

[Salento]

The K36 results in Vahaduo are closer to the Conservative Mode results of another k36 calculator with the same modern data samples ...

a small example: R1 - K36

Ancient:

 

[Archetype0ne]

Does anyone know what the numbers actually mean? Like I saw in some calculators they are labeled as percentages (%)... but percentages relative to what? I have a hard time figuring out what the numbers mean, lets say they are indeed percentages, how do "percentages" get applied to/as "distance".

Certainly it must multpiling results which is a glitch in calculation. If it would add 10 it would be on purpose which would be crazy.
In my opinion at least.

In G25 everyone has distances like 0.01 or 0.02 so it i is too close...

Regarding this... maybe here (G25), when we have 0.0x results we are talking about a percentage where we mean x%.
While on the other calculators, results x.yz are percentages where we straightforwardly mean x.yz%. Do not know... that is just my guess... otherwise what could explain this huge differences in distances between G25 based calculators compared to the other *edit: Gedmatch calculators?

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Edit: At least that is what I think is going on:

G25:

K36:

Likewise "My results with k36 coordinates by Salento #902". Thank you Salento.



[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Archetype0ne[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0001, align: right"]15.02325531[/TD]
[TD]SZ32_northItalian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0015, align: right"]15.60877958[/TD]
[TD]EMA_Alpine_STR_310[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF004B, align: right"]17.20377284[/TD]
[TD]EMA_northItalian_NW_54[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF004C, align: right"]17.23085895[/TD]
[TD]SZ1_GreekBalkan[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF004E, align: right"]17.28210635[/TD]
[TD]R1_Iron_Age_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0063, align: right"]17.91060021[/TD]
[TD]EMA_GreekBalkan_AEH_1[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0064, align: right"]17.93035136[/TD]
[TD]SZ36_northItalian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0081, align: right"]18.80814185[/TD]
[TD]SZ28_northItalian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0082, align: right"]18.83637704[/TD]
[TD]CL36_northItalian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF008B, align: right"]19.07851671[/TD]
[TD]SZ45_Pannonian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF008B, align: right"]19.08825031[/TD]
[TD]Visigoth_southEuro_mixed_I12031[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0093, align: right"]19.33016037[/TD]
[TD]SZ18_Pannonian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF009F, align: right"]19.67420901[/TD]
[TD]CL23_northItalian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00B6, align: right"]20.34097343[/TD]
[TD]SZ5_Pannonian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00C2, align: right"]20.69674129[/TD]
[TD]CL121__northItalian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00C9, align: right"]20.91450932[/TD]
[TD]BA_Hungary_BR2[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00D6, align: right"]21.28352180[/TD]
[TD]DA199HungaryMedieval[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00E0, align: right"]21.57918210[/TD]
[TD]I7424_Morisco_Andalusia_1500AD[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00E1, align: right"]21.62697390[/TD]
[TD]R437_Iron_Age_Praeneste[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00EE, align: right"]22.00965243[/TD]
[TD]SZ43_northItalian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #EF00FF, align: right"]22.96952546[/TD]
[TD]Gepid_Vim2[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #EB00FF, align: right"]23.09229309[/TD]
[TD]Niederstotzingen_north-Italian_3c[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E800FF, align: right"]23.16553906[/TD]
[TD]I10892_Catalonia_medieval[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E200FF, align: right"]23.36344153[/TD]
[TD]SZ37_Greek_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E000FF, align: right"]23.40365570[/TD]
[TD]LBA_Armenia_RISE397[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TH="class: singleheader, colspan: 2, align: left"]Target: Archetype0ne
Distance: 6.9845% / 6.98452301 [/TH]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]14.8[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]EMA_GreekBalkan_AEH_1[/TD]

[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]13.4[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]N_Germany_I0797[/TD]

[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]12.8[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]N_Levant_AinGhazal4[/TD]

[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]10.6[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]DA112_HallstattBylany_800BC[/TD]

[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]9.8[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]CHL_Yamnaya_Kalmykia_RISE546[/TD]

[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]8.8[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]MA2198_Anatolia_IA[/TD]

[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]8.0[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Baiuvarii_Germanic_AEd_92[/TD]

[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]5.2[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]EMA_Greek_STR_300[/TD]

[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]4.6[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]EN_Iberia_I0411_I041[/TD]

[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]4.4[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]I1979_Beaker_North_Italy[/TD]

[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]3.0[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]I3496_Iberian_Catalonia_200BCE[/TD]

[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]2.6[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]N_Germany_I0795[/TD]

[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]1.8[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]AV2_Hungary_Szolad[/TD]

[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]0.2[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]MBA_Armenia_RISE416[/TD]

Think this calculator is not a good match for me, the distances are quite far.

I mean the difference between "0.042 to 15.02"; and "4% to 15%", is in orders of magnitude.