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I believe basque must be linked with the Cro-Magnon language (Hg I), not with the Neolithic non-european population. I found some fossil words in romanian that are not linked with i-e or asian languages, but has connections with basque.
One very important word is the word for watter in Basque -URA that formed a lot of related word in basque: eURi - rain, elURRa - snow, itURRia-spring, lURRun-steam etc. Also in romanian we have a lot of words related with water that contain the stem UR. I personally believe that it was a word for water of onomatopoeic origin from very old Hg I population (pre-indo-european, pre-neolitic farmers). I also believe that the original form was something like "URR" and mimic the sound of the water flowing with great speed (maybe in a period when ice was melting). At some point the second R shifted into L. The same cognat has given in the german languages (v.sax) hurlen -throwing with force, (eng.) to hurl - throw with great force, to move with speed, (n.g.j) hurreln - to throw. In romanian language we have a lot of words related to water that are formed from original URR and from pregermanic URL. In the oficial romanian dictionary for most of them it is written "unknown origin" Ex: URLoi - pipe, tube; țurțur - icicle, for some of them, they try reconstructing possible latin words. Ex: lătURA - dirty water, food scraps soaked in water as food for pigs - from latin ''lavare'' and presumed *lavaturae, ciutURA - bucket for water from latin "situta"(hard to believe), for others they try explain by slavonic. Ex: izVOR - water spring. slavs seem to have taken the word from dacians. basqueITURRIA - romanian, vlach IZVOR T<D<Z (like dia-zi, deus-zeu ) u<uo<vo
There are a lot of names of rivers, lakes, waterfall and citys near water in Romania with those names: Urloi river in Urloii Valey near Urlati city, some lakes named URLoi, URLui; , CeptURA, Urlesti, URLatoarea waterfall (one of the most representativ for the romanian meaning)
I want to ask please:
1. Is this URR/URL root word related to water in other european languagers? Are there river, or places related to water with this root in the name?
2. How old can it be? is it pre-indo-european, pre neolitic farmers (as i think) or just a very early indo-european
3. Is there a link between mesopotamian UR , URuk, NippUR, assUR (places near water) or is just a coincidence?
I believe basque must be linked with the Cro-Magnon language (Hg I), not with the Neolithic non-european population. I found some fossil words in romanian that are not linked with i-e or asian languages, but has connections with basque.
One very important word is the word for watter in Basque -URA that formed a lot of related word in basque: eURi - rain, elURRa - snow, itURRia-spring, lURRun-steam etc. Also in romanian we have a lot of words related with water that contain the stem UR. I personally believe that it was a word for water of onomatopoeic origin from very old Hg I population (pre-indo-european, pre-neolitic farmers). I also believe that the original form was something like "URR" and mimic the sound of the water flowing with great speed (maybe in a period when ice was melting). At some point the second R shifted into L. The same cognat has given in the german languages (v.sax) hurlen -throwing with force, (eng.) to hurl - throw with great force, to move with speed, (n.g.j) hurreln - to throw. In romanian language we have a lot of words related to water that are formed from original URR and from pregermanic URL. In the oficial romanian dictionary for most of them it is written "unknown origin" Ex: URLoi - pipe, tube; țurțur - icicle, for some of them, they try reconstructing possible latin words. Ex: lătURA - dirty water, food scraps soaked in water as food for pigs - from latin ''lavare'' and presumed *lavaturae, ciutURA - bucket for water from latin "situta"(hard to believe), for others they try explain by slavonic. Ex: izVOR - water spring. slavs seem to have taken the word from dacians. basqueITURRIA - romanian, vlach IZVOR T<D<Z (like dia-zi, deus-zeu ) u<uo<vo
There are a lot of names of rivers, lakes, waterfall and citys near water in Romania with those names: Urloi river in Urloii Valey near Urlati city, some lakes named URLoi, URLui; , CeptURA, Urlesti, URLatoarea waterfall (one of the most representativ for the romanian meaning)
I want to ask please:
1. Is this URR/URL root word related to water in other european languagers? Are there river, or places related to water with this root in the name?
2. How old can it be? is it pre-indo-european, pre neolitic farmers (as i think) or just a very early indo-european
3. Is there a link between mesopotamian UR , URuk, NippUR, assUR (places near water) or is just a coincidence?