Paleo Balkan Languages

[Johane Derite]

It's interesting you don't consider it likely that speakers of Proto- or Pre-Albanian may have lived in Moesian flat lands because of the "shepherd's culture" of the more historically recent Albanian tribes, since many Albanian members, apparently very nationalist ones, have repeatedly presented linguistic evidences of Proto-Albanian presence in Dardania (the toponym itself), in parts of Macedonia and in towns of present-day Serbia (e.g. Nish). Therefore, either Proto-Albanian speakers could well have lived in flat lands, too, and were not somehow intrinsically restricted to the mountains and to shepherd activities, with a much broader geographic range and a more diversified economy than you're implyign; or all those supposedly Albanian etymologies that evidence the Albanoid character of people living in those lands are in fact incorrect. You can't have both ways.

What do you not understand about Albanians being erased from Epirus being the problem here? Albanians were in Dardania...And they were in Epirus. Thats it, thats what the evidence shows, not that it was either or.

And actually its good that we talk a bit about Dardanians and Moesians. See, the first time the ethnonym "Illyrian" is mentioned is sometime around the 5th Century Bc. Whereas the term Dardanian is mentioned in the Iliad and the Homeric Hymns in ~8th-7th Century BC.

Likewise are the Mysians mentioned in the Iliad.

Its already established that the Dardanians, Mysians and Phrygians of Troy are related to the Dardanians, Moesians, and Bryges of the Balkans. (See: The Wanderings of Dardanus and the Dardani).

So this is actually very interesting, since if Homers Illiad is faithfully talking about events that happened at the Bronze age collapse, then the attestation of Dardanians and Moesians is confirmed from around 1300BC.

Thats almost a thousand years earlier than the ethnonym "Illyrian" is attested. So semantically what you call Albanians is irrelevant, the point is that we have the Albanian language popping up in Epirus, Macedonia, Dardania, Moesia. And Greeks since the time of the Iliad seem to have been interacting with them.

So if Matzinger and Schumacher want to find some tribes maybe speaking some proto germanic or something, and want to brand them as the Illyrians only, for their own agendas, I do not care.

This does not undo the fact that the Albanian language is found in antiquity where it is found.

 

[Johane Derite]

Robert Elsie, The Tribes of Albania, pg 310:

Lets not forget the Illyrian tribe "Pirustae" which was mentioned as being around Kosova and Montenegro.

Pirus in latin means "Pear" so its possible that it was just a latin Calque term by the Romans for the same Dardanians.

Its possible that Greeks and Romans were often using calques when talking about tribes since we also have an example of the Greeks
referencing the Illyrian "Khelidon" tribe (swallows) and the Illyrian tribe name Taulanti is believed to have evolved into the contemporary Albanian word
for swallow "Dallandyshe":





"Scholars have also connected the name of the Illyrian tribe Taulant- with the Albanian word dalland-yshe < dalland-ushe (7) 'swallow', in which —ushe is a relatively late suffix. The ancient Greeks called this tribe by their corresponding word khelidon 'swallow'. In this case, too, between taulant and dalland-yshe one can observe phonetic changes in harmony
with the evolution of the Albanian phonological system.


The consonantic cluster /-nt-/ has evolved to /-nd-/, as in the Latin loans prind < parent-em , argjend < argentum etc. Later on, the initial /t-/ has evolved to /d-/ probably under the influence of the following /-d-/, and finally the intervocalic /-l-/ has regularly evolved to /-ll-/. Thus, the historically phonetic correspondence between Taulant- and dalland-yshe seems quite normal."


(7: For this word see Çabej: 1987, p. 157 sq.)"


Pg 196
The Origin of the Albanians: Linguistically Investigated
Shaban Demiraj
2006

 

[Yetos]

Robert Elsie, The Tribes of Albania, pg 310:

Lets not forget the Illyrian tribe "Pirustae" which was mentioned as being around Kosova and Montenegro.

Pirus in latin means "Pear" so its possible that it was just a latin Calque term by the Romans for the same Dardanians.

Its possible that Greeks and Romans were often using calques when talking about tribes since we also have an example of the Greeks
referencing the Illyrian "Khelidon" tribe (swallows) and the Illyrian tribe name Taulanti is believed to have evolved into the contemporary Albanian word
for swallow "Dallandyshe":





"Scholars have also connected the name of the Illyrian tribe Taulant- with the Albanian word dalland-yshe < dalland-ushe (7) 'swallow', in which —ushe is a relatively late suffix. The ancient Greeks called this tribe by their corresponding word khelidon 'swallow'. In this case, too, between taulant and dalland-yshe one can observe phonetic changes in harmony
with the evolution of the Albanian phonological system.


The consonantic cluster /-nt-/ has evolved to /-nd-/, as in the Latin loans prind < parent-em , argjend < argentum etc. Later on, the initial /t-/ has evolved to /d-/ probably under the influence of the following /-d-/, and finally the intervocalic /-l-/ has regularly evolved to /-ll-/. Thus, the historically phonetic correspondence between Taulant- and dalland-yshe seems quite normal."


(7: For this word see Çabej: 1987, p. 157 sq.)"


Pg 196
The Origin of the Albanians: Linguistically Investigated
Shaban Demiraj
2006

again you fell to same mistake,

Kelts but Gauls Galates
Khelidoni but Kaledonia
there is no connection with swallow,

plz man, do not suicide your mind with wrong linguistics.

Κελτες from Κελητας ιππος = speaking horse
Χελιδονι khelidoni from Kaledonia , people of kaledonia = Kaledoni = Kheledoni
Κελτες But also Galates

The swallow is only in para-phrase.
all you do is proving the wrong of your resources.

Khelidoni Keledoni Kaledonia
possible Illyrian or Greek form of Celtic kaledonia
But still in centum, so posiibly not Albanian word,

period.

besides by what you post, it is obvious that word arjend prid etc are not Albanian, but loans,
think man,

 

[Dreptul Valah]

also the existance of Brygian Illyrian etc
Yes and no
it may implies neighbohood,
BUT
it may also implies Albanization of Illyrian Brygian Greek speaking populations
Symon Semeonis demographics show the second

I hope that you're not suggesting anything here ,because in the Phanariote time some of the Gipsies have become Greeks' acolytes,since both the local boyars and peasants had been against their rule.

 

[Yetos]

I hope that you're not suggesting anything here ,because in the Phanariote rule some of the Gipsies have become Greeks' acolytes.

I am clear Dreptul,

most modern Balkanic countries as also Turkey have -zation,
Albanization Latinization Roumanization Hellenization Turkization Slavoization etc etc.


Phanariotes is another case, mainly political term,

 

[Dreptul Valah]

Phanariotes is another case, mainly political term,

Unlike others,I'd say that they did good things too,possibly not few,like,for example, extremely high standards in housekeeping cleanness ,dressing, presence,both practical and theoretical ideas ,etc.



The Phanariotes have also intervened on the local noble's habits ,borrowed from Central Europe,and have guided them through a more pious path...



However,some of these were also practiced by the local lords ,probably through Byzantines/Constantinople,Vlad Tepes had rough punishment for women who didn't keep the houses,yards,clean,and their men's wearing very white.

 

[Johane Derite]

Mods how can you act triggered by Albanians all the time and yet you love to have Yetos incessentaly spamming nonsensical BS and never ever do anything about him.

This guy straight up intentionally lies all the time and tries to confuse everyone here and never gets an infraction. You are all lying hypocrites if you dont ban him for gods sakes.

Khelidon (Χελιδόνι) in Greek means swallow. He is intentionally lying yet again.

This time we have a clear example of him lying, since he is greek and he knows very well this word means swallow.


Google it yourselves and do something about this lying deceptive person otherwise you guys are a straight up joke.

LINK: https://el.wikipedia.org/wiki/Χελιδόνι

 

[Yetos]

Mods how can you act triggered by Albanians all the time and yet you love to have Yetos incessentaly spamming nonsensical BS and never ever do anything about him.

This guy straight up intentionally lies all the time and tries to confuse everyone here and never gets an infraction. You are all lying hypocrites if you dont ban him for gods sakes.

Khelidon (Χελιδόνι) in Greek means swallow. He is intentionally lying yet again.

This time we have a clear example of him lying, since he is greek and he knows very well this word means swallow.


Google it yourselves and do something about this lying deceptive person otherwise you guys are a straight up joke.

LINK: https://el.wikipedia.org/wiki/Χελιδόνι

Well lets see who is the joker


Kaledonia in Scotland
new kaledonia Gallic province (francais)

all in Celtic Kal (possibly Illyrian, since Illyrian was a branch of celtic languages a Centum one

in Greek it is Keltos Keltes so possible Kelidonia

The rest about Swallow is up to you

Maybe I should remind you this

Χελιδων bird from Africa etymology from IE root * ghel- Greek καλω English Yield etc etc compare nightgale or old germanic gellom

celtic exonym from Greek Κελητας ιππος Speaking horse from IE *ghel-
Gives inner name Gaul Galli Galates and exonym Kelitos Kelidoni Keltos by Greek

Thank, for giving the pleasure to explain that

So Kelidoni is a Greek word for Celtic tribe (possible Illyrian) simmilar to Kaledonia

since you an expert linguist you can find why and how *ghel becomes Gaul/Galates but also Keli-tas



IN FACT KELIDONI which is a Greek WORD
in Celtic-Illyrian Might Be GALABRI (Gaulabri)
Compare Keltos but Galates

SO STOP NONSENCES ABOUT SWALLOWS

Kelidoni = Galabri the first is Greek, the second is Celto-Illyrian all Cantum
and has nothing to do with Albanian language,

Compare Keli-tas But Gala-tas

so plzstop posting whatever facultated fits with possible 'Marcian origin'

 

[Yetos]

BTW

by giving me negative points,
Truth does not change.

Keli-doni = Gala-bri as Keli-tas = Gala-tas compare Gaul Galli Galicia etc etc


nothing to do with Albanian language, but with Celto-Illyrian a Centum language.
from IE *ghel
which gives
Greek καλω notice K not G
Gernanic Gale nightgale
Celtic Gaul Galicia etc notice G not K
Slavic Slobo Satem language no g, no k
etc

 

[Johane Derite]

Mods. Yetos deserves an immediate ban. This is the hundredth example of him being a pure liar and intentional derailer.

Page 48 "Illyrians in Ancient Discourse" by Danijel Dzino.

Yetos has admitted countless times to having another account on eupedia by the name of Iapetos, in which he argued the albanian language was egyptian, berber, etc.

He is an intentional derailer and pure liar that just adapts to what is admissable. If you do not ban him then for what is stated to be a bannable offense on this websites
guidelines (having sockpuppets) then you are pure hypocrites.

Especially you Angela, who infract and ban users like Laberia, Tomenable, Olympus Mons etc all the time. Meanwhile, you intentionally let this guy spam his schizophrenic bs just to
annoy us. Are you friends with him or something? Do you guys converse in chat often or something? What is up with the radio silence when it comes to this guys behaviour?

 

[Yetos]

Mods. Yetos deserves an immediate ban. This is the hundredth example of him being a pure liar and intentional derailer.

Page 48 "Illyrians in Ancient Discourse" by Danijel Dzino.

Yetos has admitted countless times to having another account on eupedia by the name of Iapetos, in which he argued the albanian language was egyptian, berber, etc.

He is an intentional derailer and pure liar that just adapts to what is admissable. If you do not ban him then for what is stated to be a bannable offense on this websites
guidelines (having sockpuppets) then you are pure hypocrites.

Especially you Angela, who infract and ban users like Laberia, Tomenable, Olympus Mons etc all the time. Meanwhile, you intentionally let this guy spam his schizophrenic bs just to
annoy us. Are you friends with him or something? Do you guys converse in chat often or something? What is up with the radio silence when it comes to this guys behaviour?

by giving me negative points,
Truth does not change.

Keli-doni = Gala-bri as Keli-tas = Gala-tas compare Gaul Galli Galicia etc etc


nothing to do with Albanian language, but with Celto-Illyrian a Centum language.
from IE *ghel
which gives
Greek καλω notice K not G
Gernanic Gale nightgale
Celtic Gaul Galicia etc notice G not K
Slavic Slobo Satem language no g, no k
etc


the Egyptian origin of Albanian language is written by Gatepano, not me,
an Arberesh from S Italy,


Now plz stop the story about pears, peaches, swallows and chickens,
and tell us in pure scientific linguistics

for example the toponym Skonder (lake) is it Albanian or Illyrian or Brygian?

 

[markod]

:grin: not one post thus far addressed the damning evidence.

Another interesting author cited by Matzinger is Gottfried Schramm, who located both the Albanian & Romanian homeland with more precision. Apparently he wasn't allowed to speak or publish in Albania & Romania after word got around regarding his findings.

 

[Yetos]

:grin: not one post thus far addressed the damning evidence.

Another interesting author cited by Matzinger is Gottfried Schramm, who located both the Albanian & Romanian homeland with more precision. Apparently he wasn't allowed to speak or publish in Albania & Romania after word got around regarding his findings.

markod,

it's ok
I think you understand a lot,
you and many others here.

I know the place,
it is also in DNA, a genetic mark
but I leave it,
soon a genetists will reveal it.

I expected it in anothers,
but I was wrong,
I realize it when read about an aspiration from IE to Albanian,

 

[Yetos]

The consonantic cluster /-nt-/ has evolved to /-nd-/, as in the Latin loans prind < parent-em , argjend < argentum etc. Later on, the initial /t-/ has evolved to /d-/ probably under the influence of the following /-d-/, and finally the intervocalic /-l-/ has regularly evolved to /-ll-/. Thus, the historically phonetic correspondence between Taulant- and dalland-yshe seems quite normal."


(7: For this word see Çabej: 1987, p. 157 sq.)"


Pg 196
The Origin of the Albanians: Linguistically Investigated
Shaban Demiraj
2006

have you any idea what you post here?

if the word Argjend (silver) is a loan to Albanian from Latin or Greek,
you automatically admit my words

Gkreek Αργυρος Argyros
Latin Argentum

first understand what you post,
do you realize what means Argjend is a loan word to Albanian?
have you the smallest idea?

 

[Yetos]

To ALL

I am quoting this

Mods. Yetos deserves an immediate ban. This is the hundredth example of him being a pure liar and intentional derailer.

Page 48 "Illyrians in Ancient Discourse" by Danijel Dzino.

Yetos has admitted countless times to having another account on eupedia by the name of Iapetos, in which he argued the albanian language was egyptian, berber, etc.

He is an intentional derailer and pure liar that just adapts to what is admissable. If you do not ban him then for what is stated to be a bannable offense on this websites
guidelines (having sockpuppets) then you are pure hypocrites.

Especially you Angela, who infract and ban users like Laberia, Tomenable, Olympus Mons etc all the time. Meanwhile, you intentionally let this guy spam his schizophrenic bs just to
annoy us. Are you friends with him or something? Do you guys converse in chat often or something? What is up with the radio silence when it comes to this guys behaviour?

So except of a liar, who should be banned,
what else am I?

So Now lets See,

Χελιδων female
η Χελιδων
της χελιδωνας

plural
Αι χελιδοναι Notice Χελιδωναι

So the sparrow is a female word
now what does our friend,
he uses modern Greek to prove ancient words,
the word he uses is χελιδονι neutral which is Modern Greek,
and not ancient,
A typical trick, that might charm ignorants

So by using modern Greek he connects ancient Illyrian Albanian etc
WOW Fantastic method,

what member DERITE hides from us ?????
the ending - Doni Donia

notice
Kelidones the habbitants of keli-donia
Make-dones the Habitants of Make-donia
Mygdones the Habitants of Myg-donia

As you all see all are around same area,
and ending -donia means country, and Doni-dones are the people

the word Mygdonia is alternative of Brygians,
for brygians by time it was proposed the word Brigantes and Bourgoundi,

So the ones who read the 2 posts
what to you believe?
Kelidoni people means the swallows
or the people of Kelidonia

Most simple can not be done

a simple linguistic sound, might give wrong results,
if searched wrong

Thank you Derite,
more usefull you could not be,
I am the crazy liar who should be banned right?
but for what?
all who read your post, and my answer understand.
you took the ethnonym/toponym ending -donia and gave us a wrong way, a bird, cause that fit you.
should n't someone bring back to correct way,?


KELI-DONI
MAKE-DONI
MYG-DONI

ALL TOPONYMS,
ALL END IN -DONI
SO WHY KELIDONI SHOULD MEAN SWALLOW,
AND NOT A TRIBE AND A LAND?
While MAKEDONIA ADN MYGDONIA MEANS TRIBE AND LAND?

as for calling me a liar,
Forum readers, members and moderators really understand a lot and know more.

enough with pseudo-science and pseudo-linguistic

As for Galabri I enter and connect with Kelidoni,
well place names
Kala-bria Polto-bria Mese-bria
ending -Bria is also a toponym,
(Duridanov suggest it as Thracian toponym)

so Gala-bri are the habitants of Gala-bria or in anothr language the Keli-doni
remember kelidoni is an exonyme given by Greeks, not an inner name, an eso- or endo-nyme
so Kelidoni inner name should different,
but considering Greek keltos kelitas and celtic gaul Galates Galician
the most possible is Gala-doni or Gala-bri

Thank you for your patience.
I am the liar and the lunatic for some.


PS
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EVERY SCIENCE, DIVORCED FROM VIRTUE. IS A WILINESS, AND NOT A WINSDOM Αριστοτελης.

 

[LABERIA]

:grin: not one post thus far addressed the damning evidence.

Another interesting author cited by Matzinger is Gottfried Schramm, who located both the Albanian & Romanian homeland with more precision. Apparently he wasn't allowed to speak or publish in Albania & Romania after word got around regarding his findings.

Who said that Gottfried Schramm was not allowed to speak and publish in Albania?

 

[Angela]

Mods how can you act triggered by Albanians all the time and yet you love to have Yetos incessentaly spamming nonsensical BS and never ever do anything about him.

This guy straight up intentionally lies all the time and tries to confuse everyone here and never gets an infraction. You are all lying hypocrites if you dont ban him for gods sakes.

Khelidon (Χελιδόνι) in Greek means swallow. He is intentionally lying yet again.

This time we have a clear example of him lying, since he is greek and he knows very well this word means swallow.


Google it yourselves and do something about this lying deceptive person otherwise you guys are a straight up joke.

LINK: https://el.wikipedia.org/wiki/Χελιδόνι

You may consider what Yetos posts nonsense, but whether it is or not, being wrong or posting nonsense is not against the rules, and no one gets infractions for it, in case you haven't noticed. We have legit tin foil hat theorists posting on here, much to my dismay, but there you have it.

The one who is hysterical and over the top aggressive and insulting on this thread is you. Cut it out or there are going to be serious consequences. You have completely ruined this thread. How very disappointing of you, Johane.

Do you people have no self-awareness at all, no sense of how you come off to other people? Amazing.

 

[LABERIA]

Mods. Yetos deserves an immediate ban. This is the hundredth example of him being a pure liar and intentional derailer.

Page 48 "Illyrians in Ancient Discourse" by Danijel Dzino.

Yetos has admitted countless times to having another account on eupedia by the name of Iapetos, in which he argued the albanian language was egyptian, berber, etc.

He is an intentional derailer and pure liar that just adapts to what is admissable. If you do not ban him then for what is stated to be a bannable offense on this websites
guidelines (having sockpuppets) then you are pure hypocrites.

Especially you Angela, who infract and ban users like Laberia, Tomenable, Olympus Mons etc all the time. Meanwhile, you intentionally let this guy spam his schizophrenic bs just to
annoy us. Are you friends with him or something? Do you guys converse in chat often or something? What is up with the radio silence when it comes to this guys behaviour?

It`s a trap that works from many years in this forum. The most scandalous example is the thread about Stradioti started by blevins and Yetos as always started to derail that thread asking me:

OK

I ASK WHY THIS THREAD IS OPEN?
THE REASON AND THE PURPOSE,
Cause I think there is something Behind,

First, the thread was started by blevins, not me.
Second and this is the most scandalous thing, how can someone ask in a forum why you start a thread, why you want to discuss, why you are proud about Stradioti? This is beyond any imagination.
Andropausa and menopause are difficult moments in the life of a man and a woman.
I will suggest you to ignore the presence of this individual. All people here know who is Yetos, somekind of mascot of Eupedia.

 

[Johane Derite]

You may consider what Yetos posts nonsense, but whether it is or not, being wrong or posting nonsense is not against the rules, and no one gets infractions for it, in case you haven't noticed. We have legit tin foil hat theorists posting on here, much to my dismay, but there you have it.

The one who is hysterical and over the top aggressive and insulting on this thread is you. Cut it out or there are going to be serious consequences. You have completely ruined this thread. How very disappointing of you, Johane.

Do you people have no self-awareness at all, no sense of how you come off to other people? Amazing.

You have given me 4 infractions for my last two comments on this thread. I await Ygorcs evaluation of what happened here. I have reported Yetos countless times to never have any response,
yet you are always so swift with others.

You are not impartial and any pretense you wish to hold of impartiality is crossed when I lose my patience with the incessant lies, while you defend this as normal:

"So except of a liar, who should be banned,
what else am I?

So Now lets See,

Χελιδων female
η Χελιδων
της χελιδωνας

plural
Αι χελιδοναι Notice Χελιδωναι

So the sparrow is a female word
now what does our friend,
he uses modern Greek to prove ancient words,
the word he uses is χελιδονι neutral which is Modern Greek,
and not ancient,
A typical trick, that might charm ignorants

So by using modern Greek he connects ancient Illyrian Albanian etc
WOW Fantastic method,

what member DERITE hides from us ?????
the ending - Doni Donia

notice
Kelidones the habbitants of keli-donia
Make-dones the Habitants of Make-donia
Mygdones the Habitants of Myg-donia

As you all see all are around same area,
and ending -donia means country, and Doni-dones are the people

the word Mygdonia is alternative of Brygians,
for brygians by time it was proposed the word Brigantes and Bourgoundi,

So the ones who read the 2 posts
what to you believe?
Kelidoni people means the swallows
or the people of Kelidonia

Most simple can not be done

a simple linguistic sound, might give wrong results,
if searched wrong

Thank you Derite,
more usefull you could not be,
I am the crazy liar who should be banned right?
but for what?
all who read your post, and my answer understand.
you took the ethnonym/toponym ending -donia and gave us a wrong way, a bird, cause that fit you.
should n't someone bring back to correct way,?


KELI-DONI
MAKE-DONI
MYG-DONI

ALL TOPONYMS,
ALL END IN -DONI
SO WHY KELIDONI SHOULD MEAN SWALLOW,
AND NOT A TRIBE AND A LAND?
While MAKEDONIA ADN MYGDONIA MEANS TRIBE AND LAND?

as for calling me a liar,
Forum readers, members and moderators really understand a lot and know more.

enough with pseudo-science and pseudo-linguistic

As for Galabri I enter and connect with Kelidoni,
well place names
Kala-bria Polto-bria Mese-bria
ending -Bria is also a toponym,
(Duridanov suggest it as Thracian toponym)

so Gala-bri are the habitants of Gala-bria or in anothr language the Keli-doni
remember kelidoni is an exonyme given by Greeks, not an inner name, an eso- or endo-nyme
so Kelidoni inner name should different,
but considering Greek keltos kelitas and celtic gaul Galates Galician
the most possible is Gala-doni or Gala-bri

Thank you for your patience.
I am the liar and the lunatic for some.


PS
ΠΑΣΑ ΕΠΙΣΤΗΜΗ ΧΩΡΙΖΩΜΕΝΗ ΑΡΕΤΗΣ ΠΑΝΟΥΡΓΙΑ ΟΥ ΣΟΦΙΑ ΦΑΙΝΕΤΑΙ Αριστοτελης

EVERY SCIENCE, DIVORCED FROM VIRTUE. IS A WILINESS, AND NOT A WINSDOM Αριστοτελης."

 

[Yetos]

You have given me 4 infractions for my last two comments on this thread. I await Ygorcs evaluation of what happened here. I have reported Yetos countless times to never have any response,
yet you are always so swift with others.

You are not impartial and any pretense you wish to hold of impartiality is crossed when I lose my patience with the incessant lies, while you defend this as normal:

"So except of a liar, who should be banned,
what else am I?

So Now lets See,

Χελιδων female
η Χελιδων
της χελιδωνας

plural
Αι χελιδοναι Notice Χελιδωναι

So the sparrow is a female word
now what does our friend,
he uses modern Greek to prove ancient words,
the word he uses is χελιδονι neutral which is Modern Greek,
and not ancient,
A typical trick, that might charm ignorants

So by using modern Greek he connects ancient Illyrian Albanian etc
WOW Fantastic method,

what member DERITE hides from us ?????
the ending - Doni Donia

notice
Kelidones the habbitants of keli-donia
Make-dones the Habitants of Make-donia
Mygdones the Habitants of Myg-donia

As you all see all are around same area,
and ending -donia means country, and Doni-dones are the people

the word Mygdonia is alternative of Brygians,
for brygians by time it was proposed the word Brigantes and Bourgoundi,

So the ones who read the 2 posts
what to you believe?
Kelidoni people means the swallows
or the people of Kelidonia

Most simple can not be done

a simple linguistic sound, might give wrong results,
if searched wrong

Thank you Derite,
more usefull you could not be,
I am the crazy liar who should be banned right?
but for what?
all who read your post, and my answer understand.
you took the ethnonym/toponym ending -donia and gave us a wrong way, a bird, cause that fit you.
should n't someone bring back to correct way,?


KELI-DONI
MAKE-DONI
MYG-DONI

ALL TOPONYMS,
ALL END IN -DONI
SO WHY KELIDONI SHOULD MEAN SWALLOW,
AND NOT A TRIBE AND A LAND?
While MAKEDONIA ADN MYGDONIA MEANS TRIBE AND LAND?

as for calling me a liar,
Forum readers, members and moderators really understand a lot and know more.

enough with pseudo-science and pseudo-linguistic

As for Galabri I enter and connect with Kelidoni,
well place names
Kala-bria Polto-bria Mese-bria
ending -Bria is also a toponym,
(Duridanov suggest it as Thracian toponym)

so Gala-bri are the habitants of Gala-bria or in anothr language the Keli-doni
remember kelidoni is an exonyme given by Greeks, not an inner name, an eso- or endo-nyme
so Kelidoni inner name should different,
but considering Greek keltos kelitas and celtic gaul Galates Galician
the most possible is Gala-doni or Gala-bri

Thank you for your patience.
I am the liar and the lunatic for some.


PS
ΠΑΣΑ ΕΠΙΣΤΗΜΗ ΧΩΡΙΖΩΜΕΝΗ ΑΡΕΤΗΣ ΠΑΝΟΥΡΓΙΑ ΟΥ ΣΟΦΙΑ ΦΑΙΝΕΤΑΙ Αριστοτελης

EVERY SCIENCE, DIVORCED FROM VIRTUE. IS A WILINESS, AND NOT A WINSDOM Αριστοτελης."

@ Derite

That post is mine,

So put quotes,
or i consider it as an insult.

Plz Use quotes on what i write,

And do not provide my posts as yours.

As for who is liar,
people here have brain to judge.