Paul Heggarty: Beating the retreat from the Steppe hypothesis

[norbert]

Your post is the proof that I was right. Complex? You're making a racist of mine without any basis, and you see in others post only dark things! What question of "purity" have you seen in any of mys posts here and on other threads??? this question is closed for me.

Don't justify yourself. His logic works like this: you either accept his Irano-centric views or you're a racist white supremacist. At the same time, he thinks he's white. This emphasis on CLV as the source of PIE is just another paper with the usual suspects behind the scene who think they're the only experts in this field in the universe. Even if CLV were the source, it's still within the Pontic-Caspian steppe. So what exactly is so revelatory about this claim? I wonder what other "revolutionary" claims they're going to publish this year, for the sake of publishing anything, as usual...

 

[Moja]

Don't justify yourself. His logic works like this: you either accept his Irano-centric views or you're a racist white supremacist. At the same time, he thinks he's white. This emphasis on CLV as the source of PIE is just another paper with the usual suspects behind the scene who think they're the only experts in this field in the universe. Even if CLV were the source, it's still within the Pontic-Caspian steppe. So what exactly is so revelatory about this claim? I wonder what other "revolutionary" claims they're going to publish this year, for the sake of publishing anything, as usual...

If you read what Iosif Lazaridis, David Anthony and other scholars who have written the article about the genetic origin of the Indo-Europeans have said in recent days, you will see that they were under attack by white supremacists who support the Steppe hypothesis, in fact the problem is not this scientific work but some racists who don't like it.

 

[norbert]

If you read what Iosif Lazaridis, David Anthony and other scholars who have written the article about the genetic origin of the Indo-Europeans have said in recent days, you will see that they were under attack by white supremacists who support the Steppe hypothesis, in fact the problem is not this scientific work but some racists who don't like it.

What is a racist to you? Someone who supports the Steppe hypothesis? Where are these attacks happening? On X/Twitter? If so, why is that relevant? Debates on such platforms are as irrelevant as they are on this forum. The interdisciplinary scientific consensus is the only thing that matters and this is where the Steppe origins of PIE remains widely accepted. Besides, what Lazaridis talks about is a North Pontic origin of Indo-European and a Caucasus-Lower Volga (CLV) origin of Indo-Anatolian.

 

[Moja]

What is a racist to you? Someone who supports the Steppe hypothesis? Where are these attacks happening? On X/Twitter? If so, why is that relevant? Debates on such platforms are as irrelevant as they are on this forum. The interdisciplinary scientific consensus is the only thing that matters and this is where the Steppe origins of PIE remains widely accepted. Besides, what Lazaridis talks about is a North Pontic origin of Indo-European and a Caucasus-Lower Volga (CLV) origin of Indo-Anatolian.

No one has denied the presence of Indo-Europeans in the Pontic-Caspian steppe, the main issue is their origin, white supremacists support an absolute origin in the Steppe but almost all recent studies show that the original Indo-Europeans had a southern CHG/Iranian ancestry, this is the main reason that they attack these scholars.

 

[norbert]

No one has denied the presence of Indo-Europeans in the Pontic-Caspian steppe, the main issue is their origin, white supremacists support an absolute origin in the Steppe but almost all recent studies show that the original Indo-Europeans had a southern CHG/Iranian ancestry, this is the main reason that they attack these scholars.

Again, another claim not supported by the vast majority. Only a very small group of people pursue this "southern arc" nonsense, simultanously contradicting themselves at least twice a year.

 

[Moja]

Again, another claim not supported by the vast majority. Only a very small group of people pursue this "southern arc" nonsense, simultanously contradicting themselves at least twice a year.

Who cares what the majority of idiots say? All new scientific studies about the origin of Indo-Europeans in the most prestigious peer-reviewed scientific journals in the world, like Nature and Science, talk about this southern origin.