Population genomics of the Viking world (Margaryan et al 2020)

Salento: Thanks for the coordinates (and provider, Lukas, of the raw data).

Distance to:PalermoTrapani
5.59998214VK535_Dod_K12
6.31893978VK537_Dod_K12



Distance to:PalermoTrapani
3.70159425VK535_Dod_K13
4.63629162VK537_Dod_K13

 
Salento said:
I don't have the VK398 data,

... if anyone has it, please share it :)
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in yfull VK398 is

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VK398		 ......900 (1050
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750) 		.........SWE [SE-O]..........T-Y21210 i


The graves at Varnhem exhibit signs of a socially stratified society. Members of the family that owned the magnate’s farm were buried closest to the church. This is indicated by the presence of limestone coffins. Further away from the church, the dead had been interred in wooden coffins or in simpler graves without a coffin. The social division of the churchyard is also reflected in the state of health that can be observed in the skeletons. There was also a division by gender. Men were buried to the south of the church and women to the north. The dating of the graves is interesting. The burial ground at Varnhem was used continuously for Christian burials from the first half of the 10thcentury CE to the end of the 12thcentury, a period of 250-300 years. Christianity was obviously established in the area by the middle of the 10thcentury CE at the latest71.

not sure if VK398 became a christian , so being one of the first buried there in a christian cemetary
 
Salento said:
I don't have the VK398 data,

... if anyone has it, please share it :)
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All I got years ago was the admixture split



T1a1a ....sample VK17
48% Finnish
41% Swedish



T1a2b1 ....sample VK398
38% Italian
33% Danish
13% British
 
torzio said:
what about our T1a2 branch Viking .....................not very far in Yfull from myself ( and you )

Sample: VK398 / Sweden_Skara 231
Location: Varnhem, Skara, Sweden
Age: Viking 10-12th centuries CE
Y-DNA: T-BY215080
mtDNA: H1b1-T16362C
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@Torzio

y T1a2 - VK398 coordinates:

Dodecad K7 w9 K12 K13
MDLP k16
EU K13 K15 K36

Code: 
VK398_Dod_K7b,0.12,13.33,2.25,1.52,13.17,69.62,0.00


VK398_Dod_W9,0.75,0.00,1.42,68.75,0.43,1.96,13.85,12.84,0.00


VK398_Dod_K12b,8.51,1.82,0.00,0.00,35.33,41.96,0.00,0.00,0.68,0.00,10.07,1.61


VK398_Dod_13,1.67,0.32,1.81,0.00,2.08,0.00,31.67,0.33,0.56,10.18,51.37,0.00,0.00


VK398_MDLP_K16,0.22,0.27,22.43,0.00,0.00,0.00,20.55,0.00,25.21,0.01,29.39,0.53,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.38


VK398_EU_K13,47.61,23.05,11.16,7.28,4.35,3.52,0.30,0.00,0.84,0.68,0.72,0.00,0.49


VK398_EU_K15,26.70,35.27,12.81,6.71,5.98,6.62,0.54,3.19,0.39,0.00,0.71,0.32,0.47,0.09,0.22


VK398_EU_K36,0.01,0.00,0.00,3.79,0.00,6.69,0.00,0.00,4.72,0.00,5.41,0.00,4.35,8.85,8.71,20.80,0.00,2.35,0.00,0.00,0.00,13.14,3.26,13.81,0.00,0.16,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.26,0.48,2.21,0.00

RQM8pqM.jpg


dod K12 Ancient 2way by Maciano:
zIIQ0Ud.gif
 
Salento said:
Foggia VK535 - VK537
Dodecad K12 and K13 coordinates

... Credit to Lukas for the Raw-Data, (...thank me for the coordinates)

Code: 
VK535_Dod_K12,8.59,0.00,5.60,1.09,27.21,14.69,0.00,0.80,12.43,0.00,28.19,1.39
VK537_Dod_K12,5.21,0.93,4.78,0.00,26.19,16.86,0.95,0.70,11.33,0.35,31.41,1.30

Code: 
VK535_Dod_K13,0.00,0.44,2.74,0.00,16.55,1.00,36.68,0.83,0.00,22.13,18.61,0.18,0.84
VK537_Dod_K13,1.13,0.00,2.14,0.00,16.99,0.50,35.10,0.77,0.00,21.45,20.99,0.17,0.76
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Foggia VK538 coordinates

Dodecad: K12 - K13

EU: K13 - K15 - K36

Code: 
VK538_Dod_K12b,5.67,0.03,1.37,1.02,31.40,31.69,0.00,0.00,7.51,0.17,19.83,1.30


VK538_Dod_13,0.04,0.38,1.74,0.00,10.52,1.00,34.07,0.00,0.56,12.67,39.01,0.00,0.00


VK538_EU_K13,27.62,21.44,19.02,8.37,16.15,4.96,0.00,0.30,0.91,0.00,0.21,0.68,0.34


VK538_EU_K15,15.17,19.20,13.23,10.28,15.24,6.93,14.03,4.60,0.00,0.08,0.29,0.00,0.09,0.81,0.04


VK538_EU_K36,0.00,1.79,0.53,0.84,0.00,3.26,0.00,0.00,5.81,0.00,10.09,4.99,3.30,4.81,0.88,16.95,0.00,15.52,0.00,8.91,0.49,6.49,1.66,7.03,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,2.39,0.00,0.00,4.25

3rE282a.jpg
 
fyi I had issues with the new “WGS Extract” app, ... for the VK398 and VK538 bams I used the older version :)
 
Salento said:
@Torzio

y T1a2 - VK398 coordinates:

Dodecad K7 w9 K12 K13
MDLP k16
EU K13 K15 K36

Code: 
VK398_Dod_K7b,0.12,13.33,2.25,1.52,13.17,69.62,0.00


VK398_Dod_W9,0.75,0.00,1.42,68.75,0.43,1.96,13.85,12.84,0.00


VK398_Dod_K12b,8.51,1.82,0.00,0.00,35.33,41.96,0.00,0.00,0.68,0.00,10.07,1.61


VK398_Dod_13,1.67,0.32,1.81,0.00,2.08,0.00,31.67,0.33,0.56,10.18,51.37,0.00,0.00


VK398_MDLP_K16,0.22,0.27,22.43,0.00,0.00,0.00,20.55,0.00,25.21,0.01,29.39,0.53,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.38


VK398_EU_K13,47.61,23.05,11.16,7.28,4.35,3.52,0.30,0.00,0.84,0.68,0.72,0.00,0.49


VK398_EU_K15,26.70,35.27,12.81,6.71,5.98,6.62,0.54,3.19,0.39,0.00,0.71,0.32,0.47,0.09,0.22


VK398_EU_K36,0.01,0.00,0.00,3.79,0.00,6.69,0.00,0.00,4.72,0.00,5.41,0.00,4.35,8.85,8.71,20.80,0.00,2.35,0.00,0.00,0.00,13.14,3.26,13.81,0.00,0.16,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.26,0.48,2.21,0.00

RQM8pqM.jpg


dod K12 Ancient 2way by Maciano:
zIIQ0Ud.gif
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running numbers in vahaduo

I get

Target: VK398_Dod_K12b
Distance: 0.7464% / 0.74643793 | ADC: 0.25x RC
77.1English_mixed
13.6German
4.0Adygei
2.4Bulgarians
1.6ASW30
1.3
Nganassan



Adygei is in the north-caucasus area
 
I get two results for VK398 ( previous post ) and below

Target: VK398_Dod_K12b
Distance: 0.7481% / 0.74813794 | ADC: 0.25x RC
77.9English_mixed
13.3German
4.1Balkars
2.1Bulgarians
1.4Yoruba
1.2Nganassan


Adygei and Balkars are both in the North-Caucasus area
 
VK17
ybp 950 - Viking Russia

y-DNA T-Y138678 (T1a)
mtDNA U5a2a1b

coordinates
Dodecad: K7 W9 K12 K13
MDLP k16
EU: K13 K15 K36

Code: 
VK17_Dod_K7b,0.00,6.60,3.86,1.43,5.59,82.52,0.00

VK17_Dod_W9,0.59,0.00,1.46,81.54,0.03,3.55,8.16,4.67,0.00

VK17_Dod_K12b,2.57,2.93,0.02,0.50,28.20,60.64,0.00,0.12,0.01,0.00,3.78,1.23

VK17_Dod_13,1.94,0.00,0.85,0.81,1.12,0.00,23.14,0.21,1.13,1.24,69.56,0.00,0.00

VK17_MDLP_K16,0.00,0.06,20.77,0.19,1.64,0.00,16.74,0.00,35.60,0.00,23.00,0.00,0.00,0.96,0.00,1.05

VK17_EU_K13,44.12,42.69,5.90,0.11,2.74,0.00,0.00,0.00,2.98,0.00,0.07,0.09,1.28

VK17_EU_K15,39.67,17.44,20.45,17.47,2.27,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.54,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.16

VK17_EU_K36,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.44,0.42,4.20,0.00,0.00,2.69,0.00,12.13,0.00,12.56,32.45,9.80,5.29,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,6.43,0.00,13.58,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00

pzG20Ee.jpg
 
Adding to ... and consolidating the five Foggia VK samples coordinates.

VK534 VK535 VK536 VK537 VK538

Dodecad: K7 K12 K13 - MDLP: K16 - EU: K13 K15 K36

Dod K7:
Code: 
VK534_Dod_K7b,0.00,26.31,0.02,2.88,34.55,34.96,1.27
VK535_Dod_K7b,0.14,24.22,0,3.01,35.27,36.23,1.13
VK536_Dod_K7b,0.00,21.50,1.47,2.23,33.44,41.36,0.00
VK537_Dod_K7b,0.46,24.08,1.32,2.74,33.51,37.89,0
VK538_Dod_K7b,0,17.17,0.14,1.55,24.19,55.66,1.28

Dod K12:
Code: 
VK534_Dod_K12b,4.06,0.00,3.55,0.35,22.53,17.31,0.00,0.85,12.20,1.21,36.33,1.61
VK535_Dod_K12b,8.59,0.00,5.60,1.09,27.21,14.69,0.00,0.80,12.43,0.00,28.19,1.39
VK536_Dod_K12b,5.89,1.85,3.79,0.00,32.54,15.84,0.00,0.00,8.95,0.00,29.54,1.61
VK537_Dod_K12b,5.21,0.93,4.78,0.00,26.19,16.86,0.95,0.70,11.33,0.35,31.41,1.30
VK538_Dod_K12b,5.67,0.03,1.37,1.02,31.40,31.69,0.00,0.00,7.51,0.17,19.83,1.30

Dod K13:
Code: 
VK534_Dod_13,0.00,0.16,1.83,0.00,16.95,1.75,34.89,0.00,0.05,22.98,20.20,0.00,1.19
VK535_Dod_13,0.00,0.44,2.74,0.00,16.55,1.00,36.68,0.83,0.00,22.13,18.61,0.18,0.84
VK536_Dod_13,1.66,0.00,2.21,0.09,13.14,0.00,40.59,0.34,0.19,19.94,21.65,0.00,0.19
VK537_Dod_13,1.13,0.00,2.14,0.00,16.99,0.50,35.10,0.77,0.00,21.45,20.99,0.17,0.76
VK538_Dod_13,0.04,0.38,1.74,0.00,10.52,1.00,34.07,0.00,0.56,12.67,39.01,0.00,0.00

MDLP K16:
Code: 
VK534_MDLP_K16,0.22,0.48,12.28,0.00,0.00,0.00,43.56,0.00,9.41,5.30,22.63,2.96,0.00,0.00,0.94,2.22
VK535_MDLP_K16,0.41,0.00,8.64,2.00,0.00,0.00,36.62,0.00,12.60,5.09,26.76,3.47,0.78,0.01,0.37,3.26
VK536_MDLP_K16,0.00,0.31,14.83,0.00,0.96,0.00,34.59,0.00,10.52,4.55,29.85,1.65,0.29,0.25,0.00,2.21
VK537_MDLP_K16,0.00,0.00,10.18,0.00,0.00,0.00,40.88,0.50,10.67,6.58,24.01,4.63,0.00,0.83,0.00,1.73
VK538_MDLP_K16,0.82,0.00,17.01,0.00,0.02,0.00,27.18,0.30,19.15,1.88,31.19,0.57,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.90

EU K13:
Code: 
VK534_EU_K13,16.05,9.75,21.87,15.20,28.50,4.62,1.33,1.40,0.00,0.03,0.00,1.27,0.00
VK535_EU_K13,17.07,8.36,24.98,14.34,23.80,5.71,2.03,1.00,0.00,0.00,0.53,1.03,1.15
VK536_EU_K13,25.42,5.92,24.54,13.04,22.96,4.86,0.00,0.00,1.83,0.00,0.00,1.08,0.34
VK537_EU_K13,20.22,7.68,19.16,13.86,29.90,6.73,0.00,0.00,0.70,0.00,0.00,0.11,1.64
VK538_EU_K13,27.62,21.44,19.02,8.37,16.15,4.96,0.00,0.30,0.91,0.00,0.21,0.68,0.34

EU K15:
Code: 
VK534_EU_K15,13.66,10.13,7.19,0.14,18.17,15.27,27.54,4.26,0.93,1.38,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.32,0.00
VK535_EU_K15,8.96,14.66,6.50,2.48,20.42,12.07,23.94,5.86,2.01,0.65,0.00,0.00,0.38,0.66,1.38
VK536_EU_K15,14.33,19.61,2.08,1.42,19.85,14.67,20.53,4.53,0.00,0.00,1.38,0.00,0.05,1.56,0.00
VK537_EU_K15,13.99,13.83,6.22,0.23,14.68,12.76,29.56,6.57,0.00,0.00,0.67,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.48
VK538_EU_K15,15.17,19.20,13.23,10.28,15.24,6.93,14.03,4.60,0.00,0.08,0.29,0.00,0.09,0.81,0.04

EU K36:
Code: 
VK534_EU_K36,0.00,4.28,2.85,0.13,0.00,3.44,0.00,0.00,2.58,0.00,2.89,19.54,0.00,4.05,1.51,7.79,0.78,19.46,0.00,10.14,1.62,0.00,1.86,1.61,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,9.03,6.46
VK535_EU_K36,0.00,4.56,7.41,1.06,0.00,2.49,0.00,0.00,7.68,0.00,2.65,7.52,0.00,0.00,1.14,12.70,0.00,20.42,0.00,12.09,3.67,0.00,8.52,0.00,0.32,0.36,0.00,0.21,0.00,0.39,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,6.81
VK536_EU_K36,0.00,0.00,1.34,3.82,0.00,1.41,0.00,0.00,1.33,0.00,0.00,12.19,0.00,0.00,4.77,15.62,0.00,20.84,0.00,12.03,2.04,4.36,3.74,3.90,0.88,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.01,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,5.80,5.93
VK537_EU_K36,0.00,3.74,3.38,0.37,0.00,5.78,0.35,0.00,6.59,0.00,0.00,17.06,0.00,0.00,1.36,12.34,0.00,21.49,0.00,11.29,1.91,1.77,1.52,2.42,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.68,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,5.42,2.51
VK538_EU_K36,0.00,1.79,0.53,0.84,0.00,3.26,0.00,0.00,5.81,0.00,10.09,4.99,3.30,4.81,0.88,16.95,0.00,15.52,0.00,8.91,0.49,6.49,1.66,7.03,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,2.39,0.00,0.00,4.25
 
Salento: Nice work in post #72 and thanks. I am going to run them.
 
Palermo_Trapani vs. Foggia VK Samples".

Distance to:PalermoTrapani_Combined
6.41735927VK537_EU_K13
7.12113053VK534_EU_K13
8.94680390VK535_EU_K13
10.20256830VK536_EU_K13
23.35537840VK538_EU_K13

Distance to:PalermoTrapani_Combined
5.96797286VK535_EU_K15
7.46930385VK534_EU_K15
8.30998797VK537_EU_K15
11.13727525VK536_EU_K15
21.28857205VK538_EU_K15

Distance to:PalermoTrapani_Combined
3.01807886VK535_Dod_K7b
4.13581914VK537_Dod_K7b
4.33989631VK534_Dod_K7b
6.38683020VK536_Dod_K7b
23.41389972VK538_Dod_K7b

Distance to:PalermoTrapani_Combined
5.52786577VK535_Dod_K12b
5.87170333VK536_Dod_K12b
6.22550400VK537_Dod_K12b
10.67837066VK534_Dod_K12b
22.34514489VK538_Dod_K12b

Distance to:PalermoTrapani_Combined
3.67483333VK535_Dod_13
4.48889741VK537_Dod_13
4.62916839VK534_Dod_13
6.14185640VK536_Dod_13
23.04308790VK538_Dod_13

 
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you’re welcome PT :)

... Clash of the Apulians ...

Salento vs Foggia VKs

... though most were imported Apulians, lol

Dod K13
NJ0be4w.jpg
 
GedM... #

# PQ6174821 VK398 Sweden Skara

# EZ7862915 VK17 Ladoga

# EF1479749 VK534 Foggia

# KS4759395 VK535 Foggia

# FU2221500 VK536 Foggia

# DK6279121 VK537 Foggia

# RM4474362 VK538 Foggia
 
Salento said:
GedM... #

# PQ6174821 - VK398 Sweden Skara

# EZ7862915 - VK17 Ladoga

# EF1479749 - VK534 Foggia

# KS4759395 - VK535 Foggia

# FU2221500 - VK536 Foggia

# DK6279121 - VK537 Foggia

# RM4474362 - VK538 Foggia
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GedM... # UQ2086639 - VK442 (Oland_1008) Sweden

thHNIxr.jpg
 
Nice topic
 
Hello everyone. Yes, I've been absent for a very long time, but I'm back for the good or the evil of it all!!

Information from the new Discover tool and how my father's Y-line fits into this topic may have some interest for you.

As you know, their new Discover tool has one tab that shows ancient ancestors and how you fit in. You asked a question in your first or second post, Moesan, "to know what percentage of R1b-L21 was present in Scandinavia, and especially in Norway, before the Vikings settled Britain and Ireland." My father is shown to match POH001, VK232, and GRO16 in that era. Apparently he is one of about 460 of FTdna's members that match these three that match these three individually. I would make a shaky guess that it was a migration from Polhil (605-658 CE) to Kopparsvik (900-1050 CE) and then to Groningen (1100 CE). The next higher level of matches is as Z2.

After a bit of digging, I find that Polhil was a later residence of a surprisingly similar surname. But of course no paper trail.

I welcome any additional information on Kopparsvick and Groningen that anyone might have.

​

 
Wheal said:
Hello everyone. Yes, I've been absent for a very long time, but I'm back for the good or the evil of it all!!

Information from the new Discover tool and how my father's Y-line fits into this topic may have some interest for you.

As you know, their new Discover tool has one tab that shows ancient ancestors and how you fit in. You asked a question in your first or second post, Moesan, "to know what percentage of R1b-L21 was present in Scandinavia, and especially in Norway, before the Vikings settled Britain and Ireland." My father is shown to match POH001, VK232, and GRO16 in that era. Apparently he is one of about 460 of FTdna's members that match these three that match these three individually. I would make a shaky guess that it was a migration from Polhil (605-658 CE) to Kopparsvik (900-1050 CE) and then to Groningen (1100 CE). The next higher level of matches is as Z2.

After a bit of digging, I find that Polhil was a later residence of a surprisingly similar surname. But of course no paper trail.

I welcome any additional information on Kopparsvick and Groningen that anyone might have.

​

​

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The matching snp for all three plus my father is R-FGC31495
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