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Have you tried Eurogenes Steppe K10 ??? It is not available on GEDmatch.

My results (37.14% WHG-UHG + 29.54% Steppe + 29.36% Near Eastern):

29.36% Near_Eastern
0.00% East_Asian
0.05% Siberian
0.09% Oceanian
37.14% WHG-UHG
0.00% Sub-Saharan
3.32% Hindu_Kush
29.54% Steppe
0.50% Amerindian
0.00% Southeast_Asian

4 Ancestors Oracle (it is a bit off, because it sees me as a Czech):

Population data has been read. 180 populations found.
Personal data has been read. 20 approximations mode.
Person: Test1
Threshold of components set to 0,5%

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Czech @ 1,852706
2 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3,797305
3 Ukrainian_Poltava @ 4,202667
4 Utah_German @ 4,712932
5 Hungarian @ 4,872053
6 Utah_Scandinavian @ 6,119147
7 Utah_USA @ 6,276021
8 Ukrainian_Kharkov @ 6,295541
9 Orcadian @ 6,392775
10 Utah_British @ 6,443461
11 Scottish @ 6,607535
12 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 6,673569
13 English @ 6,841505
14 Icelandic @ 6,947883
15 Norwegian @ 7,110208
16 Alberstedt_LN @ 7,17376
17 Polish @ 7,588556
18 Belarusian @ 8,281611
19 Bosnian @ 8,883426
20 Serbian_Bosnia @ 9,024064
180 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Alberstedt_LN+Serbian_Bosnia @ 1,302357
2 Alberstedt_LN+Croatian @ 1,425368
3 Alberstedt_LN+Bosnian @ 1,548714
4 Alberstedt_LN+Hungarian @ 1,585818
5 Halberstadt_LBA+Serbian_Bosnia @ 1,782164
6 Czech+Czech @ 1,852706
7 Croatian+Halberstadt_LBA @ 1,896181
8 Bosnian+Halberstadt_LBA @ 2,006617
9 Ukrainian_Lviv+Utah_German @ 2,246481
10 Czech+Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2,329209
11 Hungarian+Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2,397398
12 Hungarian+Ukrainian_Poltava @ 2,397907
13 Hungarian+Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2,410605
14 Hungarian+Polish @ 2,436805
15 Lithuanian+Romanian @ 2,496408
16 Ukrainian_Lviv+Utah_USA @ 2,498371
17 Hungarian+Ukrainian_Kharkov @ 2,505857
18 Ukrainian_Poltava+Utah_German @ 2,506196
19 Lithuanian+Serbian @ 2,532952
20 Czech+Ukrainian_Poltava @ 2,569293
16290 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Halberstadt_LBA +25% Corded_Ware_LN +25% Esperstedt_MN @ 0,476727
2 50% Halberstadt_LBA +25% Corded_Ware_LN +25% Sardinian @ 0,482259
3 50% BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN +25% Bergamo +25% HungaryGamba_BA @ 0,600303
4 50% Alberstedt_LN +25% Czech +25% Montenegrin @ 0,73399
5 50% Alberstedt_LN +25% Czech +25% Serbian @ 0,756658
6 50% Lithuanian +25% Greek +25% Orcadian @ 0,780602
7 50% Lithuanian +25% Greek +25% Scottish @ 0,831056
8 50% Polish +25% Halberstadt_LBA +25% Kosovar @ 0,857265
9 50% Alberstedt_LN +25% Hungarian +25% Serbian_Bosnia @ 0,860052
10 50% Utah_German +25% BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN +25% Serbian @ 0,874223
11 50% Alberstedt_LN +25% Croatian +25% Hungarian @ 0,879402
12 50% Bosnian +25% Lithuanian +25% Orcadian @ 0,923615
13 50% Utah_Scandinavian +25% BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN +25% Kosovar @ 0,925221
14 50% Halberstadt_LBA +25% Corded_Ware_LN +25% Spain_EN @ 0,970507
15 50% Alberstedt_LN +25% Bosnian +25% Hungarian @ 0,985774
16 50% Utah_German +25% BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN +25% Montenegrin @ 0,989374
17 50% Bosnian +25% Lithuanian +25% Scottish @ 0,997905
18 50% Bosnian +25% Halberstadt_LBA +25% Polish @ 1,019938
19 50% Czech +25% Alberstedt_LN +25% Bosnian @ 1,022222
20 50% Serbian_Bosnia +25% Alberstedt_LN +25% Halberstadt_LBA @ 1,032804
1100849 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Corded_Ware_LN+Esperstedt_MN+Halberstadt_LBA+Halbe rstadt_LBA @ 0,476727
2 Corded_Ware_LN+Halberstadt_LBA+Halberstadt_LBA+Sar dinian @ 0,482259
3 Alberstedt_LN+BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN+HungaryGamba_ BA+Macedonian @ 0,522243
4 BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN+BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN+Berg amo+HungaryGamba_BA @ 0,600303
5 Alberstedt_LN+Bell_Beaker_LN+Corded_Ware_LN+Espers tedt_MN @ 0,630855
6 Basque+Corded_Ware_LN+Icelandic+Montenegrin @ 0,649659
7 Alberstedt_LN+BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN+HungaryGamba_ BA+Romanian @ 0,694624
8 Alberstedt_LN+BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN+Bulgarian+Hun garyGamba_BA @ 0,69476
9 Basque+Corded_Ware_LN+Orcadian+Serbian @ 0,713223
10 Greek+Halberstadt_LBA+Lithuanian+Polish @ 0,716618
11 Basque+Corded_Ware_LN+Montenegrin+Norwegian @ 0,729546
12 Alberstedt_LN+Alberstedt_LN+Czech+Montenegrin @ 0,73399
13 Basque+Corded_Ware_LN+Icelandic+Serbian @ 0,736825
14 BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN+Icelandic+Macedonian+Utah_G erman @ 0,737233
15 Basque+Bosnian+Corded_Ware_LN+English @ 0,738703
16 BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN+Montenegrin+Orcadian+Utah_G erman @ 0,740684
17 Alberstedt_LN+Alberstedt_LN+Czech+Serbian @ 0,756658
18 BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN+English+Lithuanian+Tuscan @ 0,765627
19 Basque+Bosnian+Corded_Ware_LN+Utah_USA @ 0,774204
20 BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN+Montenegrin+Scottish+Utah_G erman @ 0,775967
21 Greek+Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Orcadian @ 0,780602
22 BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN+English+Macedonian+Utah_Sca ndinavian @ 0,785818
23 Basque+Corded_Ware_LN+Norwegian+Serbian @ 0,800625
24 Basque+Corded_Ware_LN+Scottish+Serbian @ 0,805626
25 BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN+Lithuanian+Tuscan+Utah_USA @ 0,808601
26 Alberstedt_LN+BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN+HungaryGamba_ BA+Montenegrin @ 0,811753
27 Bosnian+Halberstadt_LBA+Lithuanian+Montenegrin @ 0,814286
28 BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN+Lithuanian+Tuscan+Utah_Brit ish @ 0,817396
29 BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN+Lithuanian+Tuscan+Utah_Germ an @ 0,826955
30 Greek+Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Scottish @ 0,831056
31 BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN+Macedonian+Utah_Scandinavia n+Utah_USA @ 0,832452
32 Alberstedt_LN+Icelandic+Macedonian+Polish @ 0,843443
33 Basque+Corded_Ware_LN+English+Serbian_Bosnia @ 0,852808
34 Halberstadt_LBA+Kosovar+Polish+Polish @ 0,857265
35 Alberstedt_LN+Alberstedt_LN+Hungarian+Serbian_Bosn ia @ 0,860052
36 Bosnian+Halberstadt_LBA+Lithuanian+Serbian @ 0,865046
37 BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN+Macedonian+Utah_German+Utah _Scandinavian @ 0,866992
38 Alberstedt_LN+Bulgarian+Icelandic+Polish @ 0,869533
39 Halberstadt_LBA+Kosovar+Lithuanian+Ukrainian_Lviv @ 0,873244
40 BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN+Serbian+Utah_German+Utah_Ge rman @ 0,874223
2947469 iterations.
 
@Sile
Yeah it follows the tradition of casting Northern Europeans as Southern Europeans (Greeks/Romans) or middle easterners (like Persians etc) rather nicely.

Tomenable, that near eastern score is probably Natufian or something
 
davef said:
Tomenable, that near eastern score is probably Natufian or something
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Most of it is from Early European Farmers.

By the way, LeBrok could you post your Eurogenes K13 for comparison?

My Eurogenes K13:

Baltic - 41,98
North Atlantic - 32,02
West Med - 9,48
West Asian - 7,55
East Med - 6,94
South Asian - 1,18
Siberian - 0,00
East Asian - 0,00
Amerindian - 0,48

Polish average:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dCZldTIfd-EPjDlpQiFNcHwOtZus9Qdll3pB48zdQG0/edit#gid=0

Baltic - 42,03
North Atlantic - 30,66
West Med - 11,08
West Asian - 6,56
East Med - 6,22
South Asian - 1,02
Siberian - 0,97
East Asian - 0,45
Amerindian - 0,07

It looks like something is shifting me a bit towards the South (even though all of my great-grandparents were from Wielkopolska, which is a north-central rather than southern region). Maybe this is why I'm getting "South_Polish" 1st and "Polish" 2nd in Eurogenes calculators. And in Steppe K10 I got "Czech" 1st and "Ukrainian_Lviv" 2nd (which is like "South_Polish" :grin:).

But my ancient matches in Steppe K10 are interesting:

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Halberstadt_LBA +25% Corded_Ware_LN +25% Esperstedt_MN @ 0,476727
2 50% Halberstadt_LBA +25% Corded_Ware_LN +25% Sardinian @ 0,482259

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Corded_Ware_LN+Esperstedt_MN+Halberstadt_LBA+Halberstadt_LBA @ 0,476727
2 Corded_Ware_LN+Halberstadt_LBA+Halberstadt_LBA+Sardinian @ 0,482259

Halberstadt_LBA was R1a-Z280. And that could be a sample from Lusatian culture.
 
Goga said:
Yeah, I don't trust Jews ( + other Semites, like Assyrians & Arabs), Turks, Armenians, Indians and Poles as for genetics and history. China is much less biased toward West Eurasian history, simply because mighty Chinese folks don't care about West Eurasians and their history. China doesn't try to steal history of other races. China is proud of their own mighty history, so they don't lower themselves to steal history of other races..
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I hope you're ********. Such an odd mix of ethnicities to distrust. As for your weird obsession with Chinese cultiure, I've seen this bizarre glorification of Asian cultures quite frequently. The Chinese are also known for copying things from other nations and just reproducing them well, so I find your sentiment quite amusing.
 
Tomenable said:
Most of it is from Early European Farmers.

By the way, LeBrok could you post your Eurogenes K13 for comparison?
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#PopulationPercent
1Baltic43.78
2North_Atlantic29.46
3West_Med12.49
4West_Asian7.36
5East_Med3.08
6East_Asian1.45
7Red_Sea0.82
8Siberian0.7
9Northeast_African0.36
10South_Asian0.26
11Amerindian0.24


It places me in South Poland and Ukrainian-Lviv. Which is sort of right. One of my grandfather was from Krakow, and the rest from Eastern Poland.

Couldn't find Steppe K10.
[h=2]puntDNAL K12 Ancient Oracle results:[/h]Single Population Sharing:
#Population (source)Distance
1Bell_Beaker_Germany_I15494.08
2BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN_I00595.18
3Unetice_EBA_I01176
4Halberstadt_LBA_I00996.43
5Corded_Ware_Estonia_RISE007.28
6Nordic_LN_SG_RISE977.28
7Potapovka_I04197.73
8Alberstedt_LN_I01188.71
9Bell_Beaker_Czech_RISE5699.72
10Corded_Ware_Germany_I010311.4
11Srubnaya_I023211.4
12Sintashta_MBA_RISE39512.26
13Srubnaya_I043012.47
14Vatya_SG_RISE47913.9
15BattleAxe_Sweden_SG_RISE9413.9
16Corded_Ware_Germany_I010414.29
17Sintashta_MBA_RISE_38614.3
18Andronovo_SG_RISE50514.73
19Hungary_BA_I150214.94
20Scythian_IA_I024725.56


[FONT=&quot]Using 2 populations approximation:[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]1 50% Sintashta_MBA_RISE395 +50% Hungary_BA_I1502 @ 2.196340[/FONT]


[FONT=&quot]Using 3 populations approximation:[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]1 50% Sintashta_MBA_RISE395 +25% Hungary_BA_I1502 +25% Hungary_BA_I1502 @ 2.196340[/FONT]
 
West Eurasian 100%South European 50%Balkan 39%
South/Central European 11%
North Slavic 31%
Ashkenazi/Levantine 14%Ashkenazi 8.6%
Ambiguous 5.1%
Arab/Egyptian 3.3%
Ambiguous 2.2%

Mine and I am Bulgarian :)
 
West Eurasian 100%South European 44%Balkan 40%
Ambiguous 3.5%
North Slavic 28%
Mediterranean Islander 17%
Ambiguous 5%
Sardinian 4%
Kalash 2.5%
My maternal GrandPa , also Bulgarian :)
 
Is there anybody who can critize different analyzing methods such as Eurogenes and PuntDNAL etc. and what is K10 - K9 ....?
 
Tomenable said:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dCZldTIfd-EPjDlpQiFNcHwOtZus9Qdll3pB48zdQG0/edit#gid=0
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According to these averange results

My Eurogenes K13: -- Averange Turk
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 22.41 -- 28.97
2 Baltic 18.36 -- 4.32
3 West_Med 16.56 -- 12.01
4 West_Asian 15.5 -- 30.83
5 North_Atlantic 11.68 -- 7.02
6 Siberian 7.23 -- 3.63
7 South_Asian 4.27 -- 4.05
8 Red_Sea 1.11 -- 5.46
9 East_Asian 0.97 -- 2.41
10 Oceanian 0.88 -- 0.56
11 Sub-Saharan 0.6 -- 0.01
12 Amerindian 0.21 -- 0.28
13 Northeast_African 0.21 -- 0.34

Well, being a mix is sucks :confused:

I am more Baltic, less West Asian
I am more West Med, less East Med these put my genetic geographic mean a little bit West but
I am double sized Siberian then averange, it pushes me East

Similar thing also happens in South-North.
I am less Red Seaean but more Sub-SaharanPopulation (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 11.92
2 Bulgarian 13.44
3 Central_Greek 14.29
4 Romanian 15.32
5 East_Sicilian 15.4
6 Italian_Abruzzo 16.31
7 Ashkenazi 16.32
8 West_Sicilian 17.63
9 South_Italian 17.76
10 Serbian 19.04
11 Tuscan 19.71
12 Turkish 20.63
13 Moldavian 21.89
14 Algerian_Jewish 22.09
15 Sephardic_Jewish 22.42
16 Italian_Jewish 22.83
17 North_Italian 23.03
18 Nogay 23.31
19 Azeri 24.48
20 Cyprian 24.59

There is no proper one population. Do all of you have that much distance? The close ones are between 12-15 distance. What is our Greek, Italian friends results?


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 51.7% Cyprian + 48.3% Tatar @ 5.39
2 72.7% Greek_Thessaly + 27.3% Afghan_Turkmen @ 5.7
3 74.2% Central_Greek + 25.8% Mari @ 5.78
4 69.2% South_Italian + 30.8% Mari @ 5.92
5 67.2% South_Italian + 32.8% Chuvash @ 6
6 75.3% Greek_Thessaly + 24.7% Uzbeki @ 6.31
7 72.7% Central_Greek + 27.3% Chuvash @ 6.35
8 72.8% East_Sicilian + 27.2% Mari @ 6.42
9 60.7% South_Italian + 39.3% Tatar @ 6.75
10 71.1% East_Sicilian + 28.9% Chuvash @ 6.76
11 59.1% Cyprian + 40.9% Chuvash @ 6.8
12 69.5% Greek_Thessaly + 30.5% Nogay @ 6.84
13 54.6% Algerian_Jewish + 45.4% Tatar @ 6.91
14 66.9% Central_Greek + 33.1% Tatar @ 6.92
15 79.1% Greek_Thessaly + 20.9% Hazara @ 7
16 83.6% Greek_Thessaly + 16.4% Hakas @ 7.08
17 82.7% Greek_Thessaly + 17.3% Shors @ 7.11
18 64.9% East_Sicilian + 35.1% Tatar @ 7.17
19 86.5% Greek_Thessaly + 13.5% Selkup @ 7.25
20 86.3% Greek_Thessaly + 13.7% Ket @ 7.33





According to modern populations the best hypothesis for me is 70% East Med-30% Altaic-Uralic
 
my DNA Land results

Mine were:

West Eurasian 100%-


Northwest European 41%

Central Asian 19%

( Indo-Iranian 12% Indus Valley 6.7% Kalash 1.2% who knows where that other 0.1 disappeared too... Maybe ambiguous)

Balkan 15%

South Asian 15%

(Dravidian 12% and Gujrati 3.2% ... See they added 0.2% here)

Central Indoeuropean 6.3%

Ambiguous 1.5%

North Slavic 1%


Its pretty mixed isn't it.

I'm surprised to see Italian was an option, I saw is on someone else's comment. Italian didn't show up for me yet my paternal grandfather was from central Italy and his parents and theirs and I don't know how far that goes back.

The map that came with the DNA land results was interesting I had ticks from Iceland and Norway to Bangladesh and Sri Lanka.
 
Boreas,

Your results suggest that a lot of your ancestors were Turkicized Greeks (or rather Rhomaioi, Greek-speaking Romans, as they called themselves at that time). This isn't surprising for a Western Turk. You are from Istanbul which used to be called Constantinople for much of its history (and Byzantium even earlier).

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 51.7% Cyprian + 48.3% Tatar @ 5.39
2 72.7% Greek_Thessaly + 27.3% Afghan_Turkmen @ 5.7
(...)
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Seljuk Turks who invaded Anatolia in the Middle Ages were probably similar to modern Turkmens (that is where most of Seljuk forces came from, IIRC). So I think that your second result (73% Greek + 27% Turkmen) is rather accurate.

I am more Baltic, less West Asian
I am more West Med, less East Med these put my genetic geographic mean a little bit West but
I am double sized Siberian then averange, it pushes me East. Smilar thing also happens in South-North. I am less Red Seaean but more Sub-Saharan
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IMO this makes perfect sense for someone with a lot of Medieval Greek ancestry from Byzantine times. Greeks usually score some Baltic and Siberian, they are shifted towards West Med as well. Sub-Saharan might be indirectly from North Africa, since nearly all of North Africans score some SSA admixture. Byzantine Empire controlled North Africa and during the Arab invasion probably many of Byzantine citizens fled from North Africa to European and Anatolian parts of the Empire. Red Sea admixture peaks in Arabia, AFAIK.

You are more Greek-like than average Turk.

But Western Turks are probably similar to you. Turks from Central Anatolia (far away from coastal areas, where Greek colonies historically existed) and Eastern Anatolia will be different.
 
Tomenable said:
Boreas,
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Thanks to spend your time for me :grin:

Tomenable said:
Your results suggest that a lot of your ancestors were Turkicized Greeks (or rather Rhomaioi, Greek-speaking Romans, as they called themselves at that time). This isn't surprising for a Western Turk.
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It would be great, if I saw some Greeks result.


Tomenable said:
You are from Istanbul which used to be called Constantinople for much of its history (and Byzantium even earlier).
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Being from Istanbul, doesn't mean anything. In here, when someone told me he was from Istanbul, I am asking second time to them and most of time their father or grand father were the first person in the city. I met really a few native İstanbul people.

The city which has biggest Kurdish population is Istanbul
or
The largest population group in Istanbul is people from Sivas(nearly begining of West Armenia)

so using Istanbul is not a true act for genetic case.


Tomenable said:
Seljuk Turks who invaded Anatolia in the Middle Ages were probably similar to modern Turkmens (that is where most of Seljuk forces came from, IIRC). So I think that your second result (73% Greek + 27% Turkmen) is rather accurate.
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Family tree DNA found Armenian relatives in basic MtDna resarch(H1v1) and my mom ancestery is partly from Greek island Lesbos so maybe tests are mixing anatolian-armenian and real greek genetics.


Tomenable said:
IMO this makes perfect sense for someone with a lot of Medieval Greek ancestry from Byzantine times. Greeks usually score some Baltic and Siberian,
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About Siberia, I am a siberian as much as Turkmen not even Turk. I can't explain it with Byzantine or Greek

Tomenable said:
You are more Greek-like than average Turk.
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For average, yes it seems like that.
 
Screenshot_2016-09-21-15-36-09.jpg
My father's results for a full Slovak
Screenshot_2016-09-21-01-16-46.jpg
My results, 3/4 Slovak 1/4 American
Screenshot_2016-09-21-16-43-30.jpg
My brothers results 3/4 Slovak 1/4 american
 
Tomenable said:
By comparison here is an Austrian guy native to Lavanttal:

Austrian.png
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Amazing to see how Slavic an Austrian guy is. Not too suprising though when we consider he's from Corinthia and a massive amount of the Austrians there have slovenian origin. I know a girl from Corinthia who doesnt speak slovenian and all of her grandparents are Corinthian but she told me three of them were full slovenian as the whole region used to be historically slovenian, very interesting results
 
I am Albanian.

Mine was pretty basic.

West Eurasian 100%
Balkan 95%
Sardinian 5.3%

Balkan

Includes: Albanian in Albania; Bulgarian in Bulgaria and Greek in (2 sites) Greece
Does not include: Egyptian in (2 sites) Egypt; Belarusian in Belarus; Italian/EastSicilian, Italian/Bergamo and Toscani in (Bergamo and 2 other sites) Italy; Lithuanian in Lithuania; Ashkenazi Jew in Poland; Turkish in (Aydin, Balikesir and Istanbul) Turkey; Ukrainian in (East) Ukraine and Ashkenazi Jew from East Europe especially Lithuania (expat in Baltimore MD)
Sardinian

Includes: Sardinian in (Sardinia) Italy
Does not include: Algerian in Algeria; Tunisian in Tunisia; Basque/French in France; Italian/WestSicilian, Italian/Bergamo, Italian/Tuscan and Toscani in (Bergamo, Tuscany and 2 other sites) Italy; Ashkenazi Jew in Poland and Ashkenazi Jew from East Europe especially Lithuania (expat in Baltimore MD)
 
Yaan said:
West Eurasian 100%South European 50%Balkan 39%
South/Central European 11%
North Slavic 31%
Ashkenazi/Levantine 14%Ashkenazi 8.6%
Ambiguous 5.1%
Arab/Egyptian 3.3%
Ambiguous 2.2%

Mine and I am Bulgarian :)
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First bulgarian DNA Land I see, are you close to bulgarian average in GEDmatch?
 
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