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Soon a study with Epipaleolithic and Neolithic samples from Kamarband/Belt and Hotu/Huto caves will most likely be published:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huto_and_Kamarband_Caves
Location of these caves near the Caspian Sea (4 and 5):
These are caves located in Northern Iran close to the southern coast of the Caspian Sea. I think there might be some R1 hg.
This is roughly the same area where Underhill found several out of 24 of most basal R1a (R1a-M420*) modern samples in 2014:
Most likely they will find also J, and maybe some R1* or R1b. Perhaps it will also explain some links between CHG, EHG and ANE.
What do you think? Any speculations or guesses? :grin:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huto_and_Kamarband_Caves
Location of these caves near the Caspian Sea (4 and 5):
These are caves located in Northern Iran close to the southern coast of the Caspian Sea. I think there might be some R1 hg.
This is roughly the same area where Underhill found several out of 24 of most basal R1a (R1a-M420*) modern samples in 2014:
(...) Our phylogeographic data lead us to conclude that the initial episodes of R1a-M420 diversification occurred in the vicinity of Iran and Eastern Turkey (...) Among the 120 populations with sample sizes of at least 50 individuals and with at least 10% occurrence of R1a, just 6 met these criteria, and 5 of these 6 populations reside in modern-day Iran. Haplogroup diversities among the six populations ranged from 0.78 to 0.86 (Supplementary Table 4). Of the 24 R1a-M420*(xSRY10831.2) chromosomes in our data set, 18 were sampled in Iran and 3 were from eastern Turkey. Similarly, five of the six observed R1a1-SRY10831.2*(xM417/Page7) chromosomes were also from Iran, with the sixth occurring in a Kabardin individual from the Caucasus. Owing to the prevalence of basal lineages and the high levels of haplogroup diversities in the region, we find a compelling case for the Middle East, possibly near present-day Iran, as the geographic origin of hg R1a. (...) Based on spatial distributions and diversity patterns within the R1a-M420 clade, particularly rare basal branches detected primarily within Iran and eastern Turkey, we conclude that the initial episodes of haplogroup R1a diversification likely occurred in the vicinity of present-day Iran. (...)
Most likely they will find also J, and maybe some R1* or R1b. Perhaps it will also explain some links between CHG, EHG and ANE.
What do you think? Any speculations or guesses? :grin: