Surgery for Kids Learning English in Korea

dreamer said:
Anyway maciamo you know that surgery is expensive so...wouldn't it be better if people spent money on helping the poor rather than on their physical appearence? :?

:D You should say, wouldn't it be better if Japanese girl spent money on surgery rather than Louis Vuitton, Chanel and Prada bags, Gucci and Dior clothes and Bulgari watches. Shouldn't stop paying 20.000yen in cosmetics every month, avoid paying 10.000 every time they go and change their hairstyles at the hairdresser, because anyway that is only to look more beautiful to

You could also argue that the same J-girls should think before buying 500 hours lessons with Nova, then stop after 5 times because they lost their motivation (and cannot get refund anyway), or just stop going out to the cinema because it's 1800yen every time, stop eating out everyday and limit themselves to nightclubs once a year ?

If you think so, then you don't understand the basic principle of Japanese ultra-consumerist and materialistic society.

One more thing, Japanese homeless don't beg - contrarily to other countries.
The average Japanese believe that money is the best proof of success or happiness. Just watch Japanese TV ; they have to put a price to everything. They seem more happy or impressed to know that someone can wear for 3 million yen in clothes and jewelry, or learning that a bowl of ramen can cost 5000yen (instead of 600 yen) in this or that restaurant seem to make them more want to eat it than the look or smell of the ramen itself. In Japan, you measure things with money. I believe it's the same in South Korea (and China).

No wonder that "buying beauty" (or sex, for that matter) is so popular and "normal" there. Maybe East-Asian to whom I asked about the morality of cosmetic surgery or pornography (2 different issues, but related, as it's money in exchange of physical beauty, and ultimately sex), most seemed to find it perfectly normal, or at least I am still to meet a person who would be genuinely disgusted like some Westerners are.

Personally, I understand the surgery thing, though a bit uncomfortable at the idea of doing it myslef.

As for the tongue surgery, if it works and they really think it necessary, why not. The most important is how they feel about it. The only "wrong" thing is to impose it on children who cannot yet have a fair judgement. But also because at that age (normally starting to learn the language before 10, but the earlier the better), they could reach a native speaker pronunciation just with practice.
 
Maciamo said:
:D You should say, wouldn't it be better if Japanese girl spent money on surgery rather than Louis Vuitton, Chanel and Prada bags, Gucci and Dior clothes and Bulgari watches. Shouldn't stop paying 20.000yen in cosmetics every month, avoid paying 10.000 every time they go and change their hairstyles at the hairdresser, because anyway that is only to look more beautiful to

You could also argue that the same J-girls should think before buying 500 hours lessons with Nova, then stop after 5 times because they lost their motivation (and cannot get refund anyway), or just stop going out to the cinema because it's 1800yen every time, stop eating out everyday and limit themselves to nightclubs once a year ?
Oh my god ... :shock:
Is this actually true?? I must say i didn't have a clue about the width of this phenomenon...
However you're true saying that I don't understand the basic principles of the japanese society.
As you already know i have been there only once and for a really short period of time, however It seems the society is like lot of asian ones: people only respect those who have lot of money.
You say that lot of japanese believe that money is the best proof of success and it's kind of true everywhere. For exemple when my aunt invites me for a lunch she always cooks dishes saying it was made with the highest priced ingredients. However with the facts you quoted Japan doesn't seem a really good place to live. It seems totally artificial and everyone only show their fake self.
You also say that things mesured with money is common even in China, but i have already been there and it doesn't seem as obvious as it is in Japan(I don't know about Korea though) The adds there were showing certain products being cheap and good.
For myself, (maybe it's because i've grown up in France) I really think that surgery just make people artificial and thinking of all those fake individual really makes me feel bad for them.
Maybe you're right and I should go there to see(a friend of mine went to Japan and when he came back he wanted to do some nasal surgery) but still, I'm wondering why people should hide themselves, using surgery.

Maciamo said:
One more thing, Japanese homeless don't beg - contrarily to other countries.
I have one question about this: how do these people manage to survive?
Are they just here waiting for death or a miracle?

Anyway about the children surgery I believe it's just a need created by some people to make money on the population's credulity. If people can acquire the right accent by practicing, I don't think any surgery is needed.
 
Yeah but I must admit that some looks far better after the surgery Oo
lol I think it depends on thow much the person abuse (ie mickael jackson )
 
jeisan said:
a little late, but in my opinion ayu and kyoko looked much better before surgery.

I thought so too. Ayu is pretty scary looking in that recent picture...
 
Well...i'm wondering how she'll look like when she'll be older ^^
 
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