T1a1a*

Yes from malek bulgaria.. same time period as the 3 x T samples in karldorf germany
There are also another 2 x T samples from malek bulgaria IIRC

IDY-DNAPopulationLanguageCultureDate(ybp)LocationMembers/SSPercentagemtDNAAutosomal SNPsAncestral ComponentsSampleSourceNotes
I0795 - KAR6a - Feature 170T1a-M70Early European NeolithicPaleo-EuropeanLinearbandkeramik7200Karsdorf1/1100%H1*47804Western European Hunter-Gatherer and Basal EurasianTooth[187]Goseck circle

Perhaps... he went NORTH into Europe from the Sinai at a later date? After T1a-M70 (13,800 B.C.E.), my L-208 lineage goes to Crete in 10,100 B.C.E., only to return to the North African coast (Egypt) by around 6,700 B.C.E.



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Their arrival circa 6,700 B.C.E. places them into a Cushitic-speaking world. Semitic languages would not diverge from Cushitic until around 3,700 years later; all of these, rooted in hieroglyphics (Kmt) & then the Phoenicians who gave us the alphabet by the 2nd Millennium.

"Northern Afro-Asiatic" language would not exist until at least 1,200 years after their return to North Africa from Crete & they align more or less with the emergence of Cushitic in the Afro-Asiatic heartland (in the SOUTH). If they spoke a Cushitic-type language, they would have left this mark upon Egypt as they made their way up the Nile to the HOA, ultimately leaving their cultural imprint there as they pushed the Khoisan further south.

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Did not judesism begin 4000bc or am i wrong
Maybe it was 4000 years ago

"Judaism" would have begun circa 1,900 B.C.E. with "Abraham". As a NATION of 600,000 men, the Israelites (not necessarily 'Jews' yet) would have had their origins when "Jacob" & his issue (12 children & 70 grandkids) spent over 2 centuries in Egypt as enslaved ISRAELITES.

As a "religion", most of the "10 Commandments"- which come from Spell 125 of the Egyptian Book of the Dead- were presented as a Mosaic revelation at Mount Sinai (circa 1,500 B.C.E.). They wandered the Sinai desert & studied the Torah afterwards. The first 3:"I am the Lord, thy God." / "Thou shall have no other Gods before me." / "Thou shall not worship any graven images or idols" are the only ones which go AGAINST Egyptian religiosity.

The Egyptian Book of the Dead, as a whole, began to be circulated on papyrus around 1,550 B.C.E. 1 plus 1 is 2 here. In those 50 or so years, it was not long before said Spell 125 from the Egyptian Book of the Dead would begin to be used as a foundation to describe the 210 years the Israelites spent in Egypt. "Judaism" used the Spell 125 framework as its morality code; taken from a papyrus which began as inscriptions on tomb walls in 2,345 B.C.E. (as King Unas' "Pyramid Texts").

If you add the Egyptian "beginnings", then... yes... it would be that far back. As far as many of these clades go (from T-L208 & upstream), we are talking even beyond that. In many of these places... the T clades appear to be AHEAD of major civs: predates Minoan Civ by several thousand years (T-L162)... Pre-Dynastic Kmt (T-L208)... Axum... Kush... etc. Ts were driving forces. They were doing what the "Game of Thrones" guy in Bulgaria was doing: running some form of colony (farmers and/or otherwise).
 
IDY-DNAPopulationLanguageCultureDate(ybp)LocationMembers/SSPercentagemtDNAAutosomal SNPsAncestral ComponentsSampleSourceNotes
I0795 - KAR6a - Feature 170T1a-M70Early European NeolithicPaleo-EuropeanLinearbandkeramik7200Karsdorf1/1100%H1*47804Western European Hunter-Gatherer and Basal EurasianTooth[187]Goseck circle
Perhaps... he went NORTH into Europe from the Sinai at a later date? After T1a-M70 (13,800 B.C.E.), my L-208 lineage goes to Crete in 10,100 B.C.E., only to return to the North African coast (Egypt) by around 6,700 B.C.E.
Their arrival circa 6,700 B.C.E. places them into a Cushitic-speaking world. Semitic languages would not diverge from Cushitic until around 3,700 years later; all of these, rooted in hieroglyphics (Kmt) & then the Phoenicians who gave us the alphabet by the 2nd Millennium.
"Northern Afro-Asiatic" language would not exist until at least 1,200 years after their return to North Africa from Crete & they align more or less with the emergence of Cushitic in the Afro-Asiatic heartland (in the SOUTH). If they spoke a Cushitic-type language, they would have left this mark upon Egypt as they made their way up the Nile to the HOA, ultimately leaving their cultural imprint there as they pushed the Khoisan further south.
What about I0797
T-M70, mtdna H46b
7125 ybp.....karsdorf.....from Unstruttal
And the 3rd sample is KARS537 from karsdorf similar period......T1a1-L162

Your looking at that new plotting site by the Russian
He had my snp originally in north Switzerland.....it is now near Bordeaux France........he has still not finished his plotting.......try the other one
 
What about I0797
T-M70, mtdna H46b
7125 ybp.....karsdorf.....from Unstruttal
And the 3rd sample is KARS537 from karsdorf similar period......T1a1-L162

Your looking at that new plotting site by the Russian
He had my snp originally in north Switzerland.....it is now near Bordeaux France........he has still not finished his plotting.......try the other one


Those two images are of mine (L-208). When I put in the sample from Germany. It comes back as Greece.

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Both are the same here (Y63197).

Individual remainsI0795 KAR6I0797 KAR16a
IDI0795 KAR6 Feature 170 Musm.no. 2006:14423aI0797 KAR16a Feature 611 Musm.no. 2004:26374a
Y DNAT1a1a2-Y63197T1a1a2-Y63197
PopulationEarly ENEarly EN
LanguagePaleo-EuropeanPaleo-European
CultureLBKLBK
Date (YBP)7076 ± 907087 ± 725
House / LocationS / KarsdorfH / Karsdorf
Members / Sample Size1/21/2
Percentage50%50%
mtDNAH1* or H1au1bH46b
Isotope SrNative to UnstruttalNative to Unstruttal
Eye colorLikely gray or blue eyesLikely gray or blue eyes
Hair colorLikely non-dark hairLikely non-red hair
Skin pigmentationRs1042602 (C;C)
ABO Blood GroupLikely O or BRs8176719 (T;T)
Diet (d13C%0 / d15N%0)-20.0 / 9.0 (higher Animal Protein)-20.2 / 9.1 (higher Animal Protein)
FADS activityrs174554 (A;A)rs174574 (A;A)
Lactase PersistenceLikely lactose-intolerant
Oase-1 Shared DNA34.06%18.06%
Ostuni1 Shared DNA12.49%2.43%
Neanderthal Vi33.26 Shared DNA3.81%1.08%
Neanderthal Vi33.25 Shared DNA2.13%1.79%
Neanderthal Vi33.16 Shared DNA1.71%0%
Ancestral Component (AC)Neolithic Anatolia/Southeast Europe: 70.56%, Caucasus Hunter / Early European Farmer: 19.86%, Scandinavian / West European Hunter: 9.34%, Paleolithic Levant (Natufians): 0.24%Neolithic Anatolia/Southeast Europe: 56.23%, Paleolithic Levant (Natufians): 16.56%, Caucasus Hunter / Early European Farmer: 14.19%, Scandinavian / West European Hunter: 9.64%, Neolithic Iran: 2.54%
puntDNAL K12 Ancient59% Anatolia Neolithic Farmer + 24% Caucasus Hunter-Gatherer+ 10% European Hunter-Gatherer + 7% Near Eastern60% Anatolia Neolithic Farmer + 27% European Hunter-Gatherer + 9% Near Eastern + 2% Caucasus Hunter-Gatherer + 2% Sub-Saharan
Dodecad [dv3]69.1% Mediterranean + 21% West European + 10% Southwest Asian64.2% Mediterranean + 17.4% West European + 10.5% Southwest Asian+ 4.2% West Asian + 3.7% Northwest African
Eurogenes [K=36]56.9% Italian + 31.9% West Mediterranean + 6.3% Iberian + 2.1% Basque + 1.3% North African + 0.9 East Balkan + 0.3% East Mediterranean + 0.3% Arabian37.1% Italian + 21% West Mediterranean + 16.9% Iberian + 11.8 East Balkan + 7.7% Armenian + 5.5% East Mediterranean + 0.05% North African
Dodecad [Globe13]67.4% Mediterranean + 16.5% Southwest Asian + 16% North European61% Mediterranean + 19.7% Southwest Asian + 19.2% North European
Genetic Distance98.6cM in chr 898.6cM in chr 8
Parental ConsanguinityMRCA = 1.1 generationsMRCA = 1.1 generations
Age at Death45-6024-26
Death PositionFlexed LeftStretched Dorsal
SNPs107.48095.833
Read Pairs5.279.6577.128.606
SampleTooth / RibTooth / Rib
Source[1][2][3][1][2][3]
NotesGoseck circleGoseck circle



As for the mtDNAs of each:


Frequencies of haplogroup H1 in the world (Ottoni et al. 2010)

Region or PopulationH1%No. of subjects
Libyan Tuareg61129
Basques (Spain)27.8108
Portugal25.5499
Andalusia24.3103
Pasiegos (Cantabria)23.551
Tuareg (West Sahel)23.390
Berbers (Morocco)20.2217
Spain (miscellaneous)18.9132
Finland1878
Sardinia17.9106
Galicia17.7266
Basques (France)17.540
Slovak (East)16.8137
Estonia16.7114
Western Sahara14.8128
Béarnaise14.827
Slovak (West)14.270
Catalonia13.9101
Volga-Ural Finnic speakers13.6125
Russia13.5312
Berbers (Tunisia)13.4276
France12.3106
Morocco12.2180
Italy (north)11.5322
Hungary11.3303
Czech Republic10.8102
Tunisia10.6269
Austria10.62487
Sicily1090
Ukraine9.9191
Mozabite9.880
Romania9.4360
Poland9.386
Caucasus (north)8.868
Netherlands8.834
Italy (south)8.7206
Croatia8.384
Slovaks7.6119
Macedonia7.1252
Mauritania6.9102
Italy (center)6.3208
Greece (mainland)6.379
Germany6100
Balkans5.4111
Northwestern Caucasus4.7234
Karachay-Balkars4.4203
Lebanese4.2167
Druze3.458
Turks3.3360
Albania2.9105
Daghestan2.5269
Ossetians2.4296
Caucasus (south)2.3132
Armenians2.3175
Iraq1.9206
Yakuts1.758
Lithuania1.7180
Jordanians1.7173
Greece (Aegean islands)1.6247
Siwas (Egypt)1.1184
Georgians1193
Arabian Peninsula (incl. Yemen, Oman)0.8493
Central Asia0.7445
Dubai (United Arab Emirates)0.4249
Senegal0100
Fulani (Chad–Cameroon)0186
Cameroon0142
Chad077
Buduma (Niger)030
Nigeria069
Ethiopia082
Amhara (Ethiopia)090
Oromo (Ethiopia)0117
Sierra Leone0155
Guineans (Guiné Bissau)0372
Mali083
Kikuyu (Kenya)024
Benin0192
Pakistan0100
Saami057
Arabian Peninsula094
Syrians0159
Africa
Asia
Caucasus
Europe
Middle East



As for the 2nd one:

H4, H7 and H13


These H4, H7 and H13 sub-haplogroups are present in both Europe and West Asia; the H13 subclade is also found in the Caucasus. They are quite rare.

H4 is often found in the Iberian peninsula, the Maghreb, Finland, Britain and Ireland.

H4 and H13, along with H2 account for 42% of the hg H lineages in Egypt.



He could have started further south & then went up... ending up in Germany. Given the equidistance of the Hs & the path his genes took... could it be his wife was Egyptian?? The high probability of "Libyan" is also there. This could have been a major route up into Europe & may have had people moving more frequently through it (wild guess here).

This is the first time I have looked over this information re: Karsdorf specimens. Feedback as I continue researching would be greatly appreciated at this time.
 
He had my snp originally in north Switzerland.....it is now near Bordeaux France........he has still not finished his plotting.......try the other one

lol... yeah... had that "must be a merman" kind of feeling when I ended up way offshore Egypt. :LOL:
 

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