T1a1a*

torzio said:
Yes from malek bulgaria.. same time period as the 3 x T samples in karldorf germany
There are also another 2 x T samples from malek bulgaria IIRC
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[TR]
[TD]ID[/TD]
[TD]Y-DNA[/TD]
[TD]Population[/TD]
[TD]Language[/TD]
[TD]Culture[/TD]
[TD]Date(ybp)[/TD]
[TD]Location[/TD]
[TD]Members/SS[/TD]
[TD]Percentage[/TD]
[TD]mtDNA[/TD]
[TD]Autosomal SNPs[/TD]
[TD]Ancestral Components[/TD]
[TD]Sample[/TD]
[TD]Source[/TD]
[TD]Notes[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I0795 - KAR6a - Feature 170[/TD]
[TD]T1a-M70[/TD]
[TD]Early European Neolithic[/TD]
[TD]Paleo-European[/TD]
[TD]Linearbandkeramik[/TD]
[TD]7200[/TD]
[TD]Karsdorf[/TD]
[TD]1/1[/TD]
[TD]100%[/TD]
[TD]H1*[/TD]
[TD]47804[/TD]
[TD]Western European Hunter-Gatherer and Basal Eurasian[/TD]
[TD]Tooth[/TD]
[TD][187][/TD]
[TD]Goseck circle[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

Perhaps... he went NORTH into Europe from the Sinai at a later date? After T1a-M70 (13,800 B.C.E.), my L-208 lineage goes to Crete in 10,100 B.C.E., only to return to the North African coast (Egypt) by around 6,700 B.C.E.



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Their arrival circa 6,700 B.C.E. places them into a Cushitic-speaking world. Semitic languages would not diverge from Cushitic until around 3,700 years later; all of these, rooted in hieroglyphics (Kmt) & then the Phoenicians who gave us the alphabet by the 2nd Millennium.

"Northern Afro-Asiatic" language would not exist until at least 1,200 years after their return to North Africa from Crete & they align more or less with the emergence of Cushitic in the Afro-Asiatic heartland (in the SOUTH). If they spoke a Cushitic-type language, they would have left this mark upon Egypt as they made their way up the Nile to the HOA, ultimately leaving their cultural imprint there as they pushed the Khoisan further south.

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torzio said:
Did not judesism begin 4000bc or am i wrong
Maybe it was 4000 years ago
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"Judaism" would have begun circa 1,900 B.C.E. with "Abraham". As a NATION of 600,000 men, the Israelites (not necessarily 'Jews' yet) would have had their origins when "Jacob" & his issue (12 children & 70 grandkids) spent over 2 centuries in Egypt as enslaved ISRAELITES.

As a "religion", most of the "10 Commandments"- which come from Spell 125 of the Egyptian Book of the Dead- were presented as a Mosaic revelation at Mount Sinai (circa 1,500 B.C.E.). They wandered the Sinai desert & studied the Torah afterwards. The first 3:"I am the Lord, thy God." / "Thou shall have no other Gods before me." / "Thou shall not worship any graven images or idols" are the only ones which go AGAINST Egyptian religiosity.

The Egyptian Book of the Dead, as a whole, began to be circulated on papyrus around 1,550 B.C.E. 1 plus 1 is 2 here. In those 50 or so years, it was not long before said Spell 125 from the Egyptian Book of the Dead would begin to be used as a foundation to describe the 210 years the Israelites spent in Egypt. "Judaism" used the Spell 125 framework as its morality code; taken from a papyrus which began as inscriptions on tomb walls in 2,345 B.C.E. (as King Unas' "Pyramid Texts").

If you add the Egyptian "beginnings", then... yes... it would be that far back. As far as many of these clades go (from T-L208 & upstream), we are talking even beyond that. In many of these places... the T clades appear to be AHEAD of major civs: predates Minoan Civ by several thousand years (T-L162)... Pre-Dynastic Kmt (T-L208)... Axum... Kush... etc. Ts were driving forces. They were doing what the "Game of Thrones" guy in Bulgaria was doing: running some form of colony (farmers and/or otherwise).
 
Andalusian Fusion said:
[TABLE="class: wikitable sortable jquery-tablesorter"]
[TR]
[TD]ID[/TD]
[TD]Y-DNA[/TD]
[TD]Population[/TD]
[TD]Language[/TD]
[TD]Culture[/TD]
[TD]Date(ybp)[/TD]
[TD]Location[/TD]
[TD]Members/SS[/TD]
[TD]Percentage[/TD]
[TD]mtDNA[/TD]
[TD]Autosomal SNPs[/TD]
[TD]Ancestral Components[/TD]
[TD]Sample[/TD]
[TD]Source[/TD]
[TD]Notes[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I0795 - KAR6a - Feature 170[/TD]
[TD]T1a-M70[/TD]
[TD]Early European Neolithic[/TD]
[TD]Paleo-European[/TD]
[TD]Linearbandkeramik[/TD]
[TD]7200[/TD]
[TD]Karsdorf[/TD]
[TD]1/1[/TD]
[TD]100%[/TD]
[TD]H1*[/TD]
[TD]47804[/TD]
[TD]Western European Hunter-Gatherer and Basal Eurasian[/TD]
[TD]Tooth[/TD]
[TD][187][/TD]
[TD]Goseck circle[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
Perhaps... he went NORTH into Europe from the Sinai at a later date? After T1a-M70 (13,800 B.C.E.), my L-208 lineage goes to Crete in 10,100 B.C.E., only to return to the North African coast (Egypt) by around 6,700 B.C.E.
Their arrival circa 6,700 B.C.E. places them into a Cushitic-speaking world. Semitic languages would not diverge from Cushitic until around 3,700 years later; all of these, rooted in hieroglyphics (Kmt) & then the Phoenicians who gave us the alphabet by the 2nd Millennium.
"Northern Afro-Asiatic" language would not exist until at least 1,200 years after their return to North Africa from Crete & they align more or less with the emergence of Cushitic in the Afro-Asiatic heartland (in the SOUTH). If they spoke a Cushitic-type language, they would have left this mark upon Egypt as they made their way up the Nile to the HOA, ultimately leaving their cultural imprint there as they pushed the Khoisan further south.
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What about I0797
T-M70, mtdna H46b
7125 ybp.....karsdorf.....from Unstruttal
And the 3rd sample is KARS537 from karsdorf similar period......T1a1-L162

Your looking at that new plotting site by the Russian
He had my snp originally in north Switzerland.....it is now near Bordeaux France........he has still not finished his plotting.......try the other one
 
torzio said:
What about I0797
T-M70, mtdna H46b
7125 ybp.....karsdorf.....from Unstruttal
And the 3rd sample is KARS537 from karsdorf similar period......T1a1-L162

Your looking at that new plotting site by the Russian
He had my snp originally in north Switzerland.....it is now near Bordeaux France........he has still not finished his plotting.......try the other one
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Those two images are of mine (L-208). When I put in the sample from Germany. It comes back as Greece.

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Both are the same here (Y63197).

[TABLE="class: wikitable floatright, width: 35%"]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]Individual remains[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]I0795 KAR6[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]I0797 KAR16a[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #333366"]ID[/TD]
[TD]I0795 KAR6 Feature 170 Musm.no. 2006:14423a[/TD]
[TD]I0797 KAR16a Feature 611 Musm.no. 2004:26374a[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #333366"]Y DNA[/TD]
[TD]T1a1a2-Y63197[/TD]
[TD]T1a1a2-Y63197[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #333366"]Population[/TD]
[TD]Early EN[/TD]
[TD]Early EN[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #333366"]Language[/TD]
[TD]Paleo-European[/TD]
[TD]Paleo-European[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #333366"]Culture[/TD]
[TD]LBK[/TD]
[TD]LBK[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #333366"]Date (YBP)[/TD]
[TD]7076 ± 90[/TD]
[TD]7087 ± 725[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #333366"]House / Location[/TD]
[TD]S / Karsdorf[/TD]
[TD]H / Karsdorf[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #333366"]Members / Sample Size[/TD]
[TD]1/2[/TD]
[TD]1/2[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #333366"]Percentage[/TD]
[TD]50%[/TD]
[TD]50%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #333366"]mtDNA[/TD]
[TD]H1* or H1au1b[/TD]
[TD]H46b[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #333366"]Isotope Sr[/TD]
[TD]Native to Unstruttal[/TD]
[TD]Native to Unstruttal[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #333366"]Eye color[/TD]
[TD]Likely gray or blue eyes[/TD]
[TD]Likely gray or blue eyes[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #333366"]Hair color[/TD]
[TD]Likely non-dark hair[/TD]
[TD]Likely non-red hair[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #333366"]Skin pigmentation[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Rs1042602 (C;C)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #333366"]ABO Blood Group[/TD]
[TD]Likely O or B[/TD]
[TD]Rs8176719 (T;T)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #333366"]Diet (d13C%0 / d15N%0)[/TD]
[TD]-20.0 / 9.0 (higher Animal Protein)[/TD]
[TD]-20.2 / 9.1 (higher Animal Protein)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #333366"]FADS activity[/TD]
[TD]rs174554 (A;A)[/TD]
[TD]rs174574 (A;A)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #333366"]Lactase Persistence[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Likely lactose-intolerant[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #333366"]Oase-1 Shared DNA[/TD]
[TD]34.06%[/TD]
[TD]18.06%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #333366"]Ostuni1 Shared DNA[/TD]
[TD]12.49%[/TD]
[TD]2.43%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #333366"]Neanderthal Vi33.26 Shared DNA[/TD]
[TD]3.81%[/TD]
[TD]1.08%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #333366"]Neanderthal Vi33.25 Shared DNA[/TD]
[TD]2.13%[/TD]
[TD]1.79%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #333366"]Neanderthal Vi33.16 Shared DNA[/TD]
[TD]1.71%[/TD]
[TD]0%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #333366"]Ancestral Component (AC)[/TD]
[TD]Neolithic Anatolia/Southeast Europe: 70.56%, Caucasus Hunter / Early European Farmer: 19.86%, Scandinavian / West European Hunter: 9.34%, Paleolithic Levant (Natufians): 0.24%[/TD]
[TD]Neolithic Anatolia/Southeast Europe: 56.23%, Paleolithic Levant (Natufians): 16.56%, Caucasus Hunter / Early European Farmer: 14.19%, Scandinavian / West European Hunter: 9.64%, Neolithic Iran: 2.54%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #333366"]puntDNAL K12 Ancient[/TD]
[TD]59% Anatolia Neolithic Farmer + 24% Caucasus Hunter-Gatherer+ 10% European Hunter-Gatherer + 7% Near Eastern[/TD]
[TD]60% Anatolia Neolithic Farmer + 27% European Hunter-Gatherer + 9% Near Eastern + 2% Caucasus Hunter-Gatherer + 2% Sub-Saharan[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #333366"]Dodecad [dv3][/TD]
[TD]69.1% Mediterranean + 21% West European + 10% Southwest Asian[/TD]
[TD]64.2% Mediterranean + 17.4% West European + 10.5% Southwest Asian+ 4.2% West Asian + 3.7% Northwest African[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #333366"]Eurogenes [K=36][/TD]
[TD]56.9% Italian + 31.9% West Mediterranean + 6.3% Iberian + 2.1% Basque + 1.3% North African + 0.9 East Balkan + 0.3% East Mediterranean + 0.3% Arabian[/TD]
[TD]37.1% Italian + 21% West Mediterranean + 16.9% Iberian + 11.8 East Balkan + 7.7% Armenian + 5.5% East Mediterranean + 0.05% North African[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #333366"]Dodecad [Globe13][/TD]
[TD]67.4% Mediterranean + 16.5% Southwest Asian + 16% North European[/TD]
[TD]61% Mediterranean + 19.7% Southwest Asian + 19.2% North European[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #333366"]Genetic Distance[/TD]
[TD]98.6cM in chr 8[/TD]
[TD]98.6cM in chr 8[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #333366"]Parental Consanguinity[/TD]
[TD]MRCA = 1.1 generations[/TD]
[TD]MRCA = 1.1 generations[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #333366"]Age at Death[/TD]
[TD]45-60[/TD]
[TD]24-26[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #333366"]Death Position[/TD]
[TD]Flexed Left[/TD]
[TD]Stretched Dorsal[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #333366"]SNPs[/TD]
[TD]107.480[/TD]
[TD]95.833[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #333366"]Read Pairs[/TD]
[TD]5.279.657[/TD]
[TD]7.128.606[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #333366"]Sample[/TD]
[TD]Tooth / Rib[/TD]
[TD]Tooth / Rib[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #333366"]Source[/TD]
[TD][1][2][3][/TD]
[TD][1][2][3][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #333366"]Notes[/TD]
[TD]Goseck circle[/TD]
[TD]Goseck circle[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]



As for the mtDNAs of each:


Frequencies of haplogroup H1 in the world (Ottoni et al. 2010)

[TABLE="class: wikitable sortable jquery-tablesorter"]
[TR]
[TH="class: headerSort, bgcolor: #EAECF0"]Region or Population[/TH]
[TH="class: headerSort headerSortDown, bgcolor: #EAECF0"]H1%[/TH]
[TH="class: headerSort, bgcolor: #EAECF0"]No. of subjects[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Libyan Tuareg[/TD]
[TD]61[/TD]
[TD]129[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Basques (Spain)[/TD]
[TD]27.8[/TD]
[TD]108[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Portugal[/TD]
[TD]25.5[/TD]
[TD]499[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Andalusia[/TD]
[TD]24.3[/TD]
[TD]103[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Pasiegos (Cantabria)[/TD]
[TD]23.5[/TD]
[TD]51[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Tuareg (West Sahel)[/TD]
[TD]23.3[/TD]
[TD]90[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Berbers (Morocco)[/TD]
[TD]20.2[/TD]
[TD]217[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Spain (miscellaneous)[/TD]
[TD]18.9[/TD]
[TD]132[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Finland[/TD]
[TD]18[/TD]
[TD]78[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Sardinia[/TD]
[TD]17.9[/TD]
[TD]106[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Galicia[/TD]
[TD]17.7[/TD]
[TD]266[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Basques (France)[/TD]
[TD]17.5[/TD]
[TD]40[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Slovak (East)[/TD]
[TD]16.8[/TD]
[TD]137[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Estonia[/TD]
[TD]16.7[/TD]
[TD]114[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Western Sahara[/TD]
[TD]14.8[/TD]
[TD]128[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Béarnaise[/TD]
[TD]14.8[/TD]
[TD]27[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Slovak (West)[/TD]
[TD]14.2[/TD]
[TD]70[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Catalonia[/TD]
[TD]13.9[/TD]
[TD]101[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Volga-Ural Finnic speakers[/TD]
[TD]13.6[/TD]
[TD]125[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Russia[/TD]
[TD]13.5[/TD]
[TD]312[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Berbers (Tunisia)[/TD]
[TD]13.4[/TD]
[TD]276[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]France[/TD]
[TD]12.3[/TD]
[TD]106[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Morocco[/TD]
[TD]12.2[/TD]
[TD]180[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Italy (north)[/TD]
[TD]11.5[/TD]
[TD]322[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Hungary[/TD]
[TD]11.3[/TD]
[TD]303[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Czech Republic[/TD]
[TD]10.8[/TD]
[TD]102[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Tunisia[/TD]
[TD]10.6[/TD]
[TD]269[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Austria[/TD]
[TD]10.6[/TD]
[TD]2487[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Sicily[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]90[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Ukraine[/TD]
[TD]9.9[/TD]
[TD]191[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Mozabite[/TD]
[TD]9.8[/TD]
[TD]80[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Romania[/TD]
[TD]9.4[/TD]
[TD]360[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Poland[/TD]
[TD]9.3[/TD]
[TD]86[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Caucasus (north)[/TD]
[TD]8.8[/TD]
[TD]68[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Netherlands[/TD]
[TD]8.8[/TD]
[TD]34[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Italy (south)[/TD]
[TD]8.7[/TD]
[TD]206[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Croatia[/TD]
[TD]8.3[/TD]
[TD]84[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Slovaks[/TD]
[TD]7.6[/TD]
[TD]119[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Macedonia[/TD]
[TD]7.1[/TD]
[TD]252[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Mauritania[/TD]
[TD]6.9[/TD]
[TD]102[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Italy (center)[/TD]
[TD]6.3[/TD]
[TD]208[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Greece (mainland)[/TD]
[TD]6.3[/TD]
[TD]79[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Germany[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]100[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Balkans[/TD]
[TD]5.4[/TD]
[TD]111[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Northwestern Caucasus[/TD]
[TD]4.7[/TD]
[TD]234[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Karachay-Balkars[/TD]
[TD]4.4[/TD]
[TD]203[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Lebanese[/TD]
[TD]4.2[/TD]
[TD]167[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Druze[/TD]
[TD]3.4[/TD]
[TD]58[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Turks[/TD]
[TD]3.3[/TD]
[TD]360[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Albania[/TD]
[TD]2.9[/TD]
[TD]105[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Daghestan[/TD]
[TD]2.5[/TD]
[TD]269[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Ossetians[/TD]
[TD]2.4[/TD]
[TD]296[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Caucasus (south)[/TD]
[TD]2.3[/TD]
[TD]132[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Armenians[/TD]
[TD]2.3[/TD]
[TD]175[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Iraq[/TD]
[TD]1.9[/TD]
[TD]206[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Yakuts[/TD]
[TD]1.7[/TD]
[TD]58[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Lithuania[/TD]
[TD]1.7[/TD]
[TD]180[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Jordanians[/TD]
[TD]1.7[/TD]
[TD]173[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Greece (Aegean islands)[/TD]
[TD]1.6[/TD]
[TD]247[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Siwas (Egypt)[/TD]
[TD]1.1[/TD]
[TD]184[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Georgians[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]193[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Arabian Peninsula (incl. Yemen, Oman)[/TD]
[TD]0.8[/TD]
[TD]493[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Central Asia[/TD]
[TD]0.7[/TD]
[TD]445[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Dubai (United Arab Emirates)[/TD]
[TD]0.4[/TD]
[TD]249[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Senegal[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]100[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Fulani (Chad–Cameroon)[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]186[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Cameroon[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]142[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Chad[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]77[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Buduma (Niger)[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]30[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Nigeria[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]69[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Ethiopia[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]82[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Amhara (Ethiopia)[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]90[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Oromo (Ethiopia)[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]117[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Sierra Leone[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]155[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Guineans (Guiné Bissau)[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]372[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Mali[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]83[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Kikuyu (Kenya)[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]24[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Benin[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]192[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Pakistan[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]100[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Saami[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]57[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Arabian Peninsula[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]94[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Syrians[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]159[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Africa[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Asia[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Caucasus[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Europe[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Middle East[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
​



As for the 2nd one:

H4, H7 and H13


These H4, H7 and H13 sub-haplogroups are present in both Europe and West Asia; the H13 subclade is also found in the Caucasus. They are quite rare.

H4 is often found in the Iberian peninsula, the Maghreb, Finland, Britain and Ireland.
H4 and H13, along with H2 account for 42% of the hg H lineages in Egypt.



He could have started further south & then went up... ending up in Germany. Given the equidistance of the Hs & the path his genes took... could it be his wife was Egyptian?? The high probability of "Libyan" is also there. This could have been a major route up into Europe & may have had people moving more frequently through it (wild guess here).

This is the first time I have looked over this information re: Karsdorf specimens. Feedback as I continue researching would be greatly appreciated at this time.
 
torzio said:
He had my snp originally in north Switzerland.....it is now near Bordeaux France........he has still not finished his plotting.......try the other one
Click to expand...

lol... yeah... had that "must be a merman" kind of feeling when I ended up way offshore Egypt. :laughing:
 
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