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Milan said:
There was people that transported them illegals for money from local population in Balkans but many were jailed so this stop.. perhaps you know more since they are more in your region.
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at balkans we all have have more guns than Iesralites have at their houses, :LOL:

simply we buy new and modern :cool-v:

we all expect the big boom at balkans :innocent::innocent:
 
@ Milan

you are smart enough,

Jihad is already at Balkans, as also in Europe,
through immigration secret services play dangerous games,
Jihadists are using immigrants to enter Europe,
and Euroepan secret services use them also to find Jihadists,

Le mond made a big mistake declaring in public the passage of one terrorist,
that pushed arresting jihadists at Norway and Italy, while they already 'watching them' but lost a circle, a link,
 
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Yetos said:

But still I believe that is not policy,
as EUROPE WE MUST
1) SAVE THEM, CAUSE THEY ARE HUMAN SOULS,
2) CHANGE OUR MIGRATION POLICIES
3)ACCEPT FEW MONTHS SO TO FIND WHO IS BEHIND THAT PUSHES THEM TO EUROPE
4) TEACH THEM WHAT WE DO NOT WANT TO BE SAVED BY THEIR GOD OR THEIR WAY OF LIFE, AND THAT THEY MUST RESPECT THE DIFFERENT
5) CREATE SAFETY TO THEIR HOMELANDS AND RETURN THEM THERE.
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You've earned a reputation.

And while many in Europe still is not clear what happens, people in the Balkans through several centuries of experience have learned to recognize the essence when it comes to things like this.
 
for those who think radicalisation is a specific problem in Belgium/France :

http://www.breitbart.com/london/201...ncreasingly-sympathise-with-extremism-terror/

Despite the fact that “Islamophobia” did not rise after the Paris Attacks, there remains a grievance industry across the Western world which targets young Muslims especially, urging them to feel victimised by Western governments for taking a stance against Islamism – and scarcely a tough stance at that.
 
Yetos said:
@ Milan

you are smart enough,

Jihad is already at Balkans, as also in Europe,
through immigration secret services play dangerous games,
Jihadists are using immigrants to enter Europe,
and Euroepan secret services use them also to find Jihadists,

Le mond made a big mistake declaring in public the passage of one terrorist,
that pushed arresting jihadists at Norway and Italy, while they already 'watching them' but lost a circle, a link,
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I quote my shelf,

as we see , Germany arrested the ibrahim Al .... a known Haleppo 'thief and smuggler' who kill for money,
he was among refuggees pretending a victim of war,
same case was also the case of Leros with the terrorist attack,
simply due to fast anouncement they had to stop operation to observe jow DAESH recruit members,
they arrested only 4 recruiters 2 at Norway 2 at Italy,at Skopjie they also arrested an imam that had recruit 28 DAESh fighters,

as you see although late enough, EU countries secret services started to see and work different,
At last.

Anyway interesting case is that Greek police areested 60 persons with EU id card which declare solidarity but cause trouble,
they are Greeks Germans Italians Spanish British,
I hope even slowly and after time to find who is behind the slavemerchats, and punish them.

strange think!!
they all sleep at night at Eygeli Gevgelia casino, and at day time they enter Greece to give instructions to refuggees!!!!!!
meaning all night they discuss and next day try to do what they decide,
without that meaning that they accept instructions from the casinos
 
bicicleur said:
for those who think radicalisation is a specific problem in Belgium/France :

http://www.breitbart.com/london/201...ncreasingly-sympathise-with-extremism-terror/

Despite the fact that “Islamophobia” did not rise after the Paris Attacks, there remains a grievance industry across the Western world which targets young Muslims especially, urging them to feel victimised by Western governments for taking a stance against Islamism – and scarcely a tough stance at that.
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Two behaviors non-Muslims towards Muslims are wrong.

First is islamophobia. Muslims are human beings and therefore they need respect as well as all other people in the world.

Second is dhimmi attitude. Originally dhimmi is the term used for Christians, Jews and Sabians as citizens of the Islamic state. Their existence is permitted in Islamic state but dhimmis subject to special laws than laws which is applicable to Muslims.

Today dhimmi is a term that means that non-Muslims accept Muslim supremacy.

Politicians on left side on spectrum sometimes tend to have dhimmi attitudes. Extremely politicians of right wings sometimes show islamophobia.

But it is not easy to accomplish zone, between, on the one hand phobia toward Muslims what is wrong, and in the second entering in the dhimmi status which is also wrong.

Right attitude and behaviors requires knowledge, discipline and practice, and respect for own culture and civilization.
 
Garrick said:
Two behaviors non-Muslims towards Muslims are wrong.

First is islamophobia. Muslims are human beings and therefore they need respect as well as all other people in the world.

Second is dhimmi attitude. Originally dhimmi is the term used for Christians, Jews and Sabians as citizens of the Islamic state. Their existence is permitted in Islamic state but dhimmis subject to special laws than laws which is applicable to Muslims.

Today dhimmi is a term that means that non-Muslims accept Muslim supremacy.

Politicians on left side on spectrum sometimes tend to have dhimmi attitudes. Extremely politicians of right wings sometimes show islamophobia.

But it is not easy to accomplish zone, between, on the one hand phobia toward Muslims what is wrong, and in the second entering in the dhimmi status which is also wrong.

Right attitude and behaviors requires knowledge, discipline and practice, and respect for own culture and civilization.
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attitude here in western Europe was that we should accomodate these people and respect their 'culture'
which meant we didn't demand from them to subscribe our western values

a big mistake which has done a lot of dammage
 
bicicleur said:
attitude here in western Europe was that we should accomodate these people and respect their 'culture'
which meant we didn't demand from them to subscribe our western values

a big mistake which has done a lot of dammage
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Reputable American strategist George Friedman 'maybe read our discussion'.

Interesting text about Islam, Secularism and Christianity in Europe.

https://geopoliticalfutures.com/europe-islam-and-radical-secularism/

(quote)
Secularism is a young religion in a way, and has not yet learned to carry political power gracefully. This places it on the intellectual defensive against Islam in a way that Christianity wasn’t. Christianity understood Islam in a way that secularism can’t. Christians and Muslims were enemies over the centuries. Secularism is both respectful of Islam and outraged at its values. In fighting a complex enemy, it is best to have elegantly consistent beliefs.

When I go to Europe, I speak for the most part to secularists, many of whom despise the increasing anti-secular sensibility of the European right, its xenophobia and its repressiveness. Having done that, the secularists must find a way to come to grips with Islam, which shares these traits unapologetically with the right. Yet, they do not wish to be seen as xenophobic and repressive. There is no simple solution for the political problem at the core of Europe. Europe is secular. Secularism has many virtues. Being effective in defining an enemy is not one of them. Secularism has not yet mastered its contradictions. Nor, I expect, will I be able to persuade secularists of these contradictions.
(end of quote)
 
Garrick said:
Reputable American strategist George Friedman 'maybe read our discussion'.

Interesting text about Islam, Secularism and Christianity in Europe.

https://geopoliticalfutures.com/europe-islam-and-radical-secularism/

(quote)
Secularism is a young religion in a way, and has not yet learned to carry political power gracefully. This places it on the intellectual defensive against Islam in a way that Christianity wasn’t. Christianity understood Islam in a way that secularism can’t. Christians and Muslims were enemies over the centuries. Secularism is both respectful of Islam and outraged at its values. In fighting a complex enemy, it is best to have elegantly consistent beliefs.

When I go to Europe, I speak for the most part to secularists, many of whom despise the increasing anti-secular sensibility of the European right, its xenophobia and its repressiveness. Having done that, the secularists must find a way to come to grips with Islam, which shares these traits unapologetically with the right. Yet, they do not wish to be seen as xenophobic and repressive. There is no simple solution for the political problem at the core of Europe. Europe is secular. Secularism has many virtues. Being effective in defining an enemy is not one of them. Secularism has not yet mastered its contradictions. Nor, I expect, will I be able to persuade secularists of these contradictions.
(end of quote)
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Where, other than in countries that used to be behind the Iron Curtain, do we find right wing anti-immigrant parties that overtly promote traditional Christianity? I know Lega Nord people, and I've spoken to Le Pen supporters, and none of them are observant or even believers in a general sense. In my area of Italy, at least, the churches are museums. Other than older men and women there's no one there, and the priests and nuns come from India or Africa. France is even more extreme. I find it difficult to believe that all the people who vote for these parties in Italy and France are observant Catholics. Perhaps he's talking about really fringe groups?

In my view, most continental Europeans are left wing socialists who want a nanny state. It's just that some are nationalistic and anti-immigrant and some aren't.

I do agree with his general point, however. It's very difficult to combat such certainty with the everything is relative pablum that passes for western thought in this day and age.
 
mr_y82 said:
mostly @ LeBrok, but relevant to earlier conversation... this is more the Canadian/US experience (well "Americans" who have a strong grasp on reality, not everyone will agree)...

http://www.cc.com/video-clips/skmxb...in-trudeau-welcomes-syrian-refugees-to-canada

...notable quote from the video, lol..."We don't blame all Americans for Donald Trump." (totally unrelated to the refugee situation)...
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25000 well-screened refugees in Canada and panick in the US ?
are you kidding ?
a million arrived in Europe last year, unscreened
 
We love our fear in the US.
 
More news about the Religion of Peace that shows it to be the exact opposite. Can anyone here seriously be in favor of letting more of them in?!?!
 
Dinarid said:
More news about the Religion of Peace that shows it to be the exact opposite. Can anyone here seriously be in favor of letting more of them in?!?!
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Yes, we did, 23 thousand more in Canada. Very nice people. I have a friend Gus, muslim from Bosnia. We get along fine, but neither one of us is very religious.
 
LeBrok said:
Yes, we did, 23 thousand more in Canada. Very nice people. I have a friend Gus, muslim from Bosnia. We get along fine, but neither one of us is very religious.
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Bosnians aren't as religious. 23 thousand is small compared to 100 thousands in Europe but in my opinion is still a bad idea.
 
I feel for the Iraqi forces battling ISIS... Respect to them for all their sacrifices in and around Fallujah... Divided we fall...
 
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