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See, this is where you make a foregone conclusion: why do you have the premise that the ancestral language must have been more simple? Why is it our expectation that the ancestral language must have had a more simple structure? I can offhand think of four living languages (all in the Caucasus) that have a phonology that is similarly complex or greater than standard reconstructed Proto-Indo-European, including Abkhaz, Chechen, Georgian and most notably Ubykh. If you want other parts of the world, I'd suggest Burushaski, or perhaps the Salish languages. Just because Albanian is relatively simple compared to other Indo-European languages doesn't automatically mean it's more representative of the original condition. In fact, there's a lot of reasons to assume that it isn't:
- Latvian and Lithuanian have both a considerably more complex grammar than Albanian and they are both languages that are attested only relatively late. In fact, both have the earliest literature later than Albanian.
(bear in mind that Albanian lacks an instrumental and locative case)
And here it is in a random facebook conversation nowdays:
You are misleading people here, and I don't know why. You as a native Albanian speaker MUST know that
ynë and jonë
are synonyms, the first one is used when the noun is in masch. ex.--biri ynë; and the second one is used for femin. ex: toka jonë.
If you dont know this just open a dictionary online:
http://argjiro.net/fjalor/index.php
This is your second time that you are accusing me for trying to confuse other people. If you are a kid and are looking for some attention you better step aside, if you really think that :
then you better learn your own language, because the primarily meaning for "çel" is 'to open' or hap(alb)[another synonym), and it has been like this at least since the year 1635.
Here it is, from Pietro Bogdano 1685
Transcription
E ky krue i gjalle e kete të q'jane te amëshueshim per te nji mende anshte Hyji krijues i t'pamet, e t'pa pamet, i nalte per mbij gjithe kupet e çiellët, i pushtueshim, i mëshirueshim, i mire, i drejte, i madh pa masë, anë e skanj..................
And here it is in a random facebook conversation nowdays:
As far as i can see and know about Pjeter Bogdani, this text written using Italian orthography and in Italian orthography the group "ch+i" means "ki" not "çi". ...
Best example. A FB conversation, cause we all know how much people write correctly...especially this folks who seem to not be able to distinguish /q/ from /ç/. Not that i care but I hope they don't know smo called "çimi" cause that would be just terrible
See, this is where you make a foregone conclusion: why do you have the premise that the ancestral language must have been more simple? Why is it our expectation that the ancestral language must have had a more simple structure?
... that imitates or suggests the source of the sound that it describes
Because everything in nature works like this, from the simpler to more complex. Let me take you by hand explaining this process to you through two very significant examples, which in my opinion determined the evolution of the natural languages.
1. Ideophone
2 Onomatopoeia
1. Albanian contrary to the other European languages, is full of terms of c-v and c-v-c stucture, which in my opinion are the earliest word forms of the natural spoken languages, especially on verbs which are also the back bones of the other parts of the speech. How do they appear?
A primitive c-v structure is compunded by an 'ideo-sound' consonant + a 'fluid' vowel.
For example the consonant L evokes a sensation of movement, or displacement. Combined with a very 'unostacled' vowel like ë, it creates a primitive word 'lë'-(leave), which generated hundreds of other words with a similar semantics, not only in Albanian but in every European language. The closest one in that perspective is the the word of the c-v-c structure: (me) lësh-u(re[leas]e), by adding just another consonant which serves to slightly deviate the meaning. Then the word was borrowed from the languages of the Latin origin (ex. lëshu-->lascia(it)) and from them 'traveled' to neo-Latin ones, and from them to English.
Depending on which vowel follows the consonant we will have a bone(consonant)-flash(vowel) structure, bearing a new meaning very close to the orginal one. Ex.
lë----leave
la----left
ly-----colorare(paint)
lu-aj----play
lu-aj----cillo(move)
The process is long and complex, but for now is good enough to create an idea.
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2. Onomatopeia
As you might know onomatopeia is a word:
Try to scratch your skin, the immediate sound result will be krrrrr and Albanian language imitates it by a very 'loyal' word (me) kru which is kru-aj(standart Albanian).
The next closest sound in nature which results in a c(a)rving is grrrrr, which again gives an immediate Albanian immitative word: (me) grry or gërry-ej (carv-ing), a process usually resulting with a deeper scratch. The verb itself derives a noun:
gërry-ej---> gropë(hole)
the same Albanian(the same to mother language) verb has given at least one meaning in English:
'grave'.
When a reinforcing consonant sh is added in front of the onomatopeic word 'kru' in Albanian , a new word is being rendered(bearing an early perceveiment) (me) 'shkru' (write) which was borowed from the Latins to give 'scrive' and then in English 'script':
being the earliest writing the humanity has performed.
for you info watch the video
it is only spoken by 5000 people mainly old who never wend to school, due to change of population and Turkish education
at least Linguistacally it is considered the most ancient IE language that is spoken today,
No Need more,
Yetos, I must ask you to stop with this baiting, it's entirely uncalled for.
Taranis, let's enjoy him. Trying to prove me wrong he confirmed my point that you are desperately trying to deny. The so called Ancient Greek Language has been named in the video Romaiika(The language of the Romans), because this is what the true Ancient Greeks were, Roman citizens or if you would like to use recently coined word 'nation', they were a Roman nation, that's is why they called themselves Ρωμαίοι.
ahahahaha
These paople Speak ancient Greek language
Byzantine never existed as a terminology before 1800
The official name was ROMANS ΡΩΜΑΙΟΙ
Turks still recogn the Byzantines as East Roman and the language as Rumlar
if you knew little History then you could recogn that Byzantines were shelfed named Roman and constantinoupolis as NOVA ROMA
TELL US PLZ how Byzantines name Their Shelfs?
tell us how Albanian area noble's declare their shelfs, if not as Roman's
βιβλιοθήκη
Nope we call them 'rafte'.
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