The Byzantine Empire must be revived

There can not be Byzantine revival anymore,

there could be alliances or Unions but not Byzantine empire,
like the old Greek Serbia at WW1 or Greece Yugoslavia Bulgaria at 1976 till Yugoslavian end.

if an empire can be resettle is Ottoman empire,
which, although as Greek I do not want, I see as more possible,
but not Byzantine
 
There can not be Byzantine revival anymore,

there could be alliances or Unions but not Byzantine empire,
like the old Greek Serbia at WW1 or Greece Yugoslavia Bulgaria at 1976 till Yugoslavian end.

if an empire can be resettle is Ottoman empire,
which, although as Greek I do not want, I see as more possible,
but not Byzantine

Byzantine empire in the former borders very hardly to be rebuild, even in the modern mode as economic community, it is hard to suppose that Arabian countries would be the part that superstate. And the question is for Greece, Serbia and Bulgaria, if they want to be minority in country where majority of inhabitants would be nations of Near East and Northern Africa.

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Of course, Ottoman empire is not possible, Ottoman empire collapsed in the 19th and early 20th century. Ottoman empire was sick man of Europe. The country collapsed due to its narrow-mindedness and luck of inventiveness, while the other countries developed it remained in the Middle age.

Punch_magazine_-_Turkey_Ltd_-_1896.jpg
 
Yes, we will do everything for the beloved benevolent despot, who cares about his people.

I think that the Byzantines were living much better than the rest of the Europeans that time.

The middle class appeared many years afterwards, I think during the period of the French Revolution.




Byzantines reigned for a long period of time. I think 1000 years. Of course there should have been few prosperous times but that time its not a time to be nostalgic for. Some really tragic things happened to the Byzantines. The Slavic invasion was the worst one. Byzantines lost most of their territories. Since you have a Greek flag at your avatar Macedonia used to be Greece. Its not any more.Its Slavic. Then Ottoman occupation happened that was also bad. The only thing Byzantines had that Northern European did not was the knowledge. The Byzantine schools were advanced for the time and the schools were in strong scientific foundations. its the Byzantine schools where Northers learned hard core subjects like math, geometry etc..
So in short its not a time for nostalgia....
 
I'd like Byzantine Empire to revived but it's seems impossible now because of Turkey and EU/US politics.
 
The Byzantines never knew themselves as such but only as Romans,this term is derived from much earlier Thracian settlement near Constantinople or their founder Byzas.The first use of the term "Byzantine" to label the later years of the Roman Empire was in 1557, when the German historian Hieronymus Wolf published his work Corpus Historiæ Byzantinæ, a collection of historical sources.
If we are to say this to Basil or any other that he was "Byzantine" he will get a laugh at it,this is what he thought about himself;

Thirty years later, in spring 871, the eastern and western emperors, Basil I and Louis II, quarreled over control of Bari, which had been conquered from the Arabs by their joint forces. The "Byzantine" emperor sent an angry letter to his western counterpart, reprimanding him for usurping the title of emperor. He said that the Frankish rulers are simple reges, while the imperial title properly applied only to the overlord of the Romans, that is, to Basil himself. He also pointed out that each nation has its own title for the supreme ruler: for instance, the title of chaganus is used by the overlords of the Avars, Khazars (Gazari), and "Northmen" (Nortmanno).

Or if we are to say that Constantine the great is regarded as "Byzantine emperor" will be the same,he founded Constantinople(Nova Roma) and moved the capital there,the empire,legacy,politics remained always Roman.

As for the revival of it,i doubt anyone will like to live under monarchy or much more this idea should have been embraced since 19th century starting of the demise of the Ottoman empire,but the "great powers" of that time would have much different say,as they wouldn't allowed this to happen,the warring Balkans countries have their issues too,then we have the Ottomans proud as Turks today in Anatolia with their own Turkish language.
This is just history and dream,which can never happen but better cooperation can happen if people from those regions wants.
 
And who will be the Emperor of this Empire?
 
I elect Maleth for Emperor and Angela for Empress

Let's call it an update:you all are off-topic for a long time.


Secondly,you can divert the topic,if you really feel that you
have something to say(about history and genetics;for example,
I always feel that I have something to say)- the brain
responds differently to different stimului.
I agree, there are cases when the brain offers the same
answer(and it surely isn't a bad one),but it can actually be
much worse:to offer the same answer to certain stimuli.

Generally,I'll stick to my conservative stance:
"You talking to me?"
 
I beg leave to doubt the Balkans and Turkey would choose a half Northern Italian/half Tuscan as Empress, much less the Levant and North Africa, but you guys could do worse in my not so humble opinion. :grin:

Plus, I think the Emperor gets to choose the Empress, yes?
 
I beg leave to doubt the Balkans and Turkey would choose a half Northern Italian/half Tuscan as Empress, much less the Levant and North Africa, but you guys could do worse in my not so humble opinion. :grin:

Plus, I think the Emperor gets to choose the Empress, yes?

Perhaps it's the Emperess' turn to become the ruler. ;)

Welp, looks like Empress Angela has been summoned.
 

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SUMMONED! Like ifrit from final fantasy unleashing his fiery comet.

Anyway i shall bestow the new emperor with the following greekobalkanoroman name and it shalt beith....
Dionysiouises Caesaritis Snufflipigus Hermetophanundrum Monkeysaurus Rex
 
Romania is already the satellite of the Central European countries,
and we can clearly see the consequences,both culturally and economically,
joining the Visegrad group would legitimize this last form of enslavement,
blocking in the same time its and others' hopes of autonomy in an essential
Balkanic League.


Bulgaria has probably opposed so far to the integration of these two states in the
above-mentioned structure ,a Russian-influenced decision or not.


Products,many times of dubious quality(like freezed or expired bread and meat) or simply unnecessary,
have been imported (systematically or on pressures) from these Central European countries ,
while the foreign investments are dangerously concentrated in a specific part of Romania.


The economic situation strongly contrasts with the political one,where Romania has one of the
most pro-Euro-Atlantic(basically there is no anti- party) ,defeating,at this chapter,coutries
like Poland,Hungary or the Czech Republic.


The extreme lack of the autochthonous capital was the result of long-term administrative measures
such as ,the complete dissapearance of the Romanian banks,today's terms of crediting are
literally draconian,bureacracy,old-fashioned threats,blackmail and murders(see the recent
Condrea case),extremely high levels of inflation and the foreign banks' autocracy and monopoly
within the Financial System (see the BNR Governor's dictatorship).
It is interesting that the most intensive or decisive parts of these processes took place earlier,
in the 90's,when the Visegrad States have blocked the entrance of Romania into this League.


Because of the obstructions,the level of the local production is lower and much more monopolized,
than in Bulgaria,where the goods are cheaper and not rarely,better,indicating a more competitive
environment.These products enter more and more on the Romanian market.


It was not that easy, with a Communist regime that strongly resembled the USSR in the very bad years
and a North Korean-like propaganda,for the Romanian of those years,that had a Tv programme of two
hours,Yugoslavia and Bulgaria seemed like some sort of US,from certain points of view.


Though,some economic processes were boldly and well-implemented,both internally and externally,where
Romania was providing services and secondary products(esp. the oil industry and constructions) to the
North African,Middle Eastern,Asian and Latin American markets,using mechanisms similar to those described
by John Perkins.The situation of the Commercial Fleet speaks for itself-it was the 9th World's largest.


Among the things that don't make Ceausescu quite a hero,is that,despite the myths,his decision of
paying rapidly the huge debt to World Bank in the conditions of the 70's Global Crisis is not
unique,the Brazilian right-winged dictators have done it similarly.






"History will have to evolve quite a bit for this to take place.
For now, the question is Romania and Bulgaria."

https://www.stratfor.com/weekly/20110516-visegrad-new-european-military-force


"I personally hope that as members of the EU these four Central European
countries will continue as a regional group, leading to an enhanced Visegrad
both in content and as a geographical extension."

http://www.visegradgroup.eu/the-visegrad-book/jeszenszky-geza-the


http://bbj.hu/economy/v4-bulgaria-romania-sign-development-cooperation-agreement_99449
 
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I was recently to Madrid,in a coffee-shop I have met two Spaniards and the discussion went
towards their opinion about the Romanians.One of them smiled at me "The only problem with the
Romanians is that they work too much!",
"why?",I answered,"I think that's because of Communism",he replied;
"It's much more than that;they work hard,because they want to have much,so they can joyfully
and proudly present to their neighbours and friends what they have accomplished,saying
'I have done something in my life',that's our old way of doing things",was my response.
This mentality also exists in the Aromanian families.



He countinued,saying that he knew some Romanians from Spain and one of his friends has
Romanian employees,who always stress him about punctuality and to keep the
workplace in a good condition.
The last thing he told me was,"the men are OK,very sociable,you can laugh and party for hours
with them,but the ladies are hard to conquer","por que?","because they are Orthodox,the Catholics are
allowing too much";I sincerely disapproved him,"It can't be",but he insisted.
I wanted to speak about the women,telling that "It's true ,they are well-mannered,but it has also to do with
cleverness".
The man was not a dumb,he works at Prado.
 
Turkey is a country searching for stability,I suppose they would
want a Balkanic entity as a buffer zone.
China can be supportive,but we have to be careful, they are much more aggressive nowadays,acting like
a state-corporation,with no important Communist state left to trade with.
Who knows?Perhaps Great Britain...
We would have 5 seas,so a Commercial Fleet would be very useful,trading with
Brazil,India etc.

http://www.geoatlas.com/medias/maps/Europe and EU/Europe XL/Eu54ro8pe97X6L/EUROPE_XL_phy.jpg

We would be a knot of the silk road:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Silk_route.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silk_Road



Performing a little bit of taxation, assuring in the same time the good's optimal flux.
The program doesn't accept a bigger picture.
 

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We are not Guinea pigs.

http://www.politico.eu/article/romanians-shouldnt-vote-for-corrupt-candidates-us-envoy-hans-klemm/


http://www.nineoclock.ro/laura-codruta-kovesi-reappointed-at-national-anticorruption-directorate/


http://www.agerpres.ro/english/2016...opean-of-the-year-by-reader-s-digest-17-31-11


http://www.romaniajournal.ro/tomis-...eard-at-dna-in-the-case-of-the-inmates-books/


http://www.romania-insider.com/roma...ibery-using-false-statements-obtain-eu-funds/


an extremely savage model of changing a government:


"
“People had to die so that the Government would finally resign”, Iohannis said, fueling endless conspiracy theories."

http://www.nineoclock.ro/a-year-after-klaus-iohannis-won-the-elections-my-government-mission-accomplished/


https://cristiansurubaru.wordpress.com/tag/colectiv/


He just didn't know.

http://hungarianfreepress.com/2016/...e-of-hans-klemm-the-us-ambassador-to-romania/

But they did.

http://www.americanhungarianfederation.org/news_AHFLetter_AmbKlemm_2016-09-15.html

The unavoidable conflict:

http://hungarianfreepress.com/2016/...ditor-from-the-american-hungarian-federation/


Seriously now,Mr. Klemm is really playing with our kind and hospitable nature,
if he continues like that,nobody will be able to listen to him.
 
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I agree, good guard against threats to Europe.

Catholics where stupid to attack and undermine it, we suffer from that stupidity even today.
 

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