Economy The USA looks like a developing country in many ways. Here is why.

Diocles said:
The problem with your thread is that you forgot to mention that most of it is due to the fact that 14% of the US population is black.
If the US was a fully white country all of those stats would be much different.
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The same is true in Western and Northern Europe where African and Middle Eastern immigrants make up 10 to 15% of the population.
 
Perhaps one day the USA will lead the world in this category!

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Jovialis said:
Perhaps one day the USA will lead the world in this category!

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Diocles said:
The problem with your thread is that you forgot to mention that most of it is due to the fact that 14% of the US population is black.
If the US was a fully white country all of those stats would be much different.
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The issues relating to infrastructure and government policy affect Americans of all races, but many of the metrics discussed in this post do indeed show sharp differences between different racial groups. This may be most striking when looking at the homicide rates. In 2022, the USA had a homicide death rate of 5.9 per 100,000 persons according to the Centers for Disease Control, down from 6.3 in 2021. However, the rates showed significant racial differences:

Black or African American: 27.5
American Indian or Alaska Native: 9.3
White non-Hispanic: 2.0
Asian or Pacific Islander: 1.1

www.cdc.gov

Notes from the Field: Firearm Homicide Rates, by ...

This report shows the overall U.S. firearm homicide rate during 2019 – 2022.
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It has been reported that the UK outside London and the Southeast has a lower per capita GDP than any US state (even the poorest...Mississippi).
 
Vallicanus said:
It has been reported that the UK outside London and the Southeast has a lower per capita GDP than any US state (even the poorest...Mississippi).
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This is true. According to the World bank, the per capita GDP of the UK in 2022 was $45,850 (US$). The per capita GDP in Mississippi during the same year was $47,189 according to the US Bureau of Economic Analysis and the US Census Bureau.

There are the four American states with the lowest per capita GDP in 2022:

47) Alabama $54,750
48) Arkansas $54,248
49) West Virginia $53,848
50) Mississippi $47,189


For comparison, here are several European countries and their per capita GDP during the same year in US$:

Austria $52,131
Belgium $49,583
Denmark $66,983
France $40,964
Germany $48,432
Italy $34,158
Spain $29,350
Sweden $55,873
Switzerland $92,102
United Kingdom $45,850

data.worldbank.org

World Bank Open Data

Free and open access to global development data
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Of course, as already pointed out, the US has a higher rate of income inequality than any European country, so the higher per capita GDP conceals a much higher poverty rate in the poorer American states. And these states also receive more from the federal government than they pay in taxes, so their wealth is partly inflated by being the recipient of tax money paid by inhabitants of other states. As this thread has noted, there are numerous factors by which the US comes out much lower than anywhere in Europe. But it is also true that even the poorest states in America are wealthier than much of Europe.
 
The United States is a garbage dumb for the world's problems, and the muscle for world elites; the 99.9% population that live in the US are merely interlopers in this operations. That is my impression of how our politicians treat us.
 
If any American who read this thread thought that I exaggerated here is a YouTube video made by an American who explains basically the same things as I did. The video already has 3.4 million views and 75,000 comments.

 
Here is another American who shares how his view of the US has changed after a living 12 years abroad. What seems sad to me is that so few Americans seem to be aware of the rest of the world and especially how life is in other developed countries.

 
After watching the David Cross video, here's a thought experiment I asked ChatGPT:

Q:
What if the US population was reduced to just the percentage of people who are millionaires and billionaires, and the void to fill the jobs done by poorer classes were replaced by automation, and AI?

A:
If the US population were reduced to only millionaires and billionaires, with the remaining jobs filled by automation and AI, several significant societal changes and challenges would likely emerge. Here are some key considerations:

### Economic Impacts:
1. **Economic Stratification**: With only the wealthiest individuals remaining, economic inequality would be highly pronounced. The absence of middle and lower-income classes could affect market dynamics and demand for a variety of goods and services.

2. **Consumption Patterns**: The consumption patterns of millionaires and billionaires differ significantly from those of the broader population. This shift could impact industries that rely on mass-market sales and volume-driven business models.

### Workforce and Employment:
1. **Automation and AI**: Automation and AI would need to fill a wide range of jobs, from manufacturing to service industries. While technology can handle many tasks, the transition would require significant investment and development to ensure efficiency and reliability.

2. **Employment Opportunities**: There would be fewer traditional employment opportunities, potentially leading to a focus on high-skill, high-innovation jobs related to maintaining and advancing automation and AI technologies.

### Social and Cultural Implications:
1. **Social Structure**: The social fabric would change dramatically, with a concentration of wealth and power among a small elite. This could lead to social isolation and reduced diversity of experiences and perspectives.

2. **Cultural Impact**: Many cultural aspects, including arts, entertainment, and community activities, could be affected by the absence of a broader population. Wealthier individuals might have different cultural and social interests.

### Political and Governance Issues:
1. **Governance**: Governance structures would need to adapt to a society where only the wealthy remain. This could lead to different policy priorities, potentially focusing more on sustaining technological advancements and less on social welfare.

2. **Public Services**: The provision of public services such as healthcare, education, and transportation would need to be rethought. Automation could potentially manage these, but the design and oversight would become crucial.

### Ethical and Humanitarian Concerns:
1. **Ethical Considerations**: The ethical implications of such a drastic population reduction and reliance on automation are significant. Issues of fairness, equity, and the treatment of displaced individuals would need to be addressed.

2. **Humanitarian Impact**: The displacement of millions of people raises humanitarian concerns. Ensuring that those who are no longer part of the wealthy elite have access to basic needs and opportunities would be a critical challenge.

### Environmental Effects:
1. **Resource Usage**: The environmental impact could be twofold: reduced consumption might lower resource depletion and pollution, but the energy demands for maintaining advanced automation systems could be significant.

2. **Sustainability**: A smaller, wealthier population might invest more in sustainable practices and technologies, potentially benefiting the environment in the long term.

In conclusion, such a scenario would lead to profound changes in economic structures, social dynamics, governance, and ethical considerations. While automation and AI could theoretically fill many roles, the broader implications for society would be complex and far-reaching.
 
Jovialis, are you suggesting that the US should get rid of anyone who is not at least a millionaire?
 
Maciamo said:
Jovialis, are you suggesting that the US should get rid of anyone who is not at least a millionaire?
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No, that would be crazy, it was just a thought experiment to see how that society would look like. I find it interesting to ask these hypothetical questions to ChatGPT, because it tries to look at it objectively from all angles. It has become a past-time of mine. But a society like that would be too extreme. All the millionaires would become the new underclass relative to the billionaires, and eventually trillionaires. Just like a wolf pack, a society of solely Alphas would be very disharmonious, and cut-throat.

The comment David Cross made about the U.S. having 18 million millionaires prompted me to explore the question.
 
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