Tomenable World 6th century BC

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Try my new Global25 scaled calculator:

https://yourrootsdna.blogspot.com/2022/07/my-calculator-models-on-explore-your.html

Recommended settings in Single/Multi:

Cycles - 4
Add Dist Col - 0.25X
Aggregate - Yes
Recalculate - Yes
Reduce - try without and then to 5 Populations
Print Zeroes - No

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Polish average scores:

Target: Polish
Distance: 0.7674% / 0.00767380 | ADC: 0.25x RC
75.6 Europe_Balto_Slavic
13.6 Europe_Early_Germanic
5.8 Europe_Celts
4.2 Europe_Daco_Thracians
0.8 MENA_Judah_Kingdom
 
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Target: Italian_Bergamo
Distance: 0.8658% / 0.00865795 | R5P | ADC: 0.25x RC
45.4 Europe_Celts
27.2 Europe_Western_Illyrians
17.0 Europe_Roman_Kingdom
7.2 Europe_Archaic_Greeks
3.2 MENA_Carthage_Empire_Africa
 
well done tomenable (y)
since i don't have g25 values
i used a tool which simulate eurogenes k36 results to g25 values

http://allelocator.com/K36horizontal.html

so i take it is close to the truth not exactly the truth:cool-v:

distance:
Distance to:adam
0.04498903Europe_Roman_Kingdom:Urban
0.04662888Europe_Daco_Thracians:dacians
0.04978399Europe_Bosporus_Greeks
0.05396443Europe_Daco_Thracians:Thracians
0.05810966Europe_Archaic_Greeks
0.06015269Europe_Carthage_Empire_Western
0.06323770Europe_Carthage_Empire_Ebusus
0.06667155MENA_Lydia_Kingdom
0.07862553Europe_Sicily_Sikanoi
0.07959131Europe_Western_Illyrians
0.08282139MENA_Cilicia_Kingdom
0.08485500Europe_Etruria_Etruscans
0.08487934Europe_Roman_Kingdom:Rural
0.08525118MENA_Phoenician_States
0.08914577Europe_Celts:Noricum_Celts
0.08974452MENA_Carthage_Empire_Africa
0.08992370MENA_Urartu_Kingdom_Urumu
0.09006297MENA_Luwian_Aramean_States
0.09145720MENA_Israel_Kingdom
0.09278722MENA_Urartu_Kingdom_East
0.09290741Europe_Latin_League
0.09396704Europe_Raetians:Vennones
0.09665628MENA_Judah_Kingdom
0.09984994MENA_Ammon_Kingdom
0.10184872MENA_Philistine_Pentapolis



single:
Europe_Balto_Slavic17.82 %
Europe_Roman_Kingdom_Urban17.74 %
Europe_Archaic_Greeks16.80 %
MENA_Cilicia_Kingdom10.63 %
Europe_Daco_Thracians_Thracians8.25 %
MENA_Phoenician_States7.55 %
MENA_Judah_Kingdom5.98 %
MENA_Mannaean_Kingdom5.20 %
MENA_Berber_Peoples5.20 %
Europe_Bosporus_Greeks2.45 %
MENA_Elamo_Dravidians1.60 %
Europe_Carthage_Empire_Western0.77 %
 
Distance to:AlfonsoVIII
0.03534058Europe_Western_Illyrians
0.03996956Europe_Etruria_Etruscans
0.04155960Europe_Celts:Noricum_Celts
0.04164899Europe_Roman_Kingdom:Rural
0.04505825Europe_Raetians:Vennones
0.04571755Europe_Latin_League
0.04975519Europe_Ligurians:Salluvii
0.05161561Europe_Daco_Thracians_Dacians
0.05288581Europe_Celts:Celtiberians
0.05623477Europe_Baleares_Talaiotic
0.05745371Europe_Iberes:Northern
0.05841581Europe_Iberes:Central
0.05974393Europe_Cantabri_Confederacy
0.06334631Europe_Celts:Continental_Gaulish
0.06514435Europe_Tartessos_Turdetani
0.06735827Europe_Carthage_Empire_Ebusus
0.06775114Europe_Carthage_Empire_Western
0.06986363Europe_Roman_Kingdom:Urban
0.07033673Europe_Lusotannan_Lusitani
0.07317602Europe_Daco_Thracians:Thracians
0.07738370Europe_Sicily_Sikanoi
0.07992440Europe_Celts:Armoricans
0.08360393Europe_Celts:Brittonic_EnglandS
0.08850597Europe_Celts:Brittonic_Cornwall
0.08935944Europe_Celts:Brittonic_WalesS2_I16405


Target: AlfonsoVIII
Distance: 1.8124% / 0.01812372 | ADC: 0.25x RC
46.4Europe_Celts

21.4Europe_Western_Illyrians

19.8Europe_Carthage_Empire_Western

7.4Caucasus_Colchis_Kingdom

2.6MENA_Berber_Peoples

1.6Africa_Garamantians

0.8Oceania_Melanesians

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G25 simulated from K36 data

Target: Duarte_G25simulated_fromK36data
Distance: 0.8456% / 0.00845647 | R5P | ADC: 0.25x RC
55.2Europe_Western_Illyrians
28.4Europe_Ligurians
11.6MENA_Berber_Peoples
3.2Africa(Central)_Foragers
1.6Africa_Garamantians

Europe_Celts_Caledonian_Scotland22.17 %
Europe_Latin_League20.41 %
Europe_Archaic_Greeks11.28 %
MENA_Berber_Peoples10.07 %
Europe_Sardinia_Nuragic8.18 %
Europe_Cantabri_Confederacy5.56 %
Europe_Roman_Kingdom_Rural4.48 %
Europe_Daco_Thracians_Thracians4.16 %
Europe_Celts_Brittonic_WalesN1_I164754.10 %
Europe_Celts_Brittonic_WalesN2_VK1713.27 %
Africa(West)_Niger_Congo_Peoples2.81 %
Europe_Celts_Hibernian_Scotii0.91 %
America_Mayan_Civilization0.83 %
Africa(Central)_Foragers_Baka0.76 %
Africa_Nilo_Saharan_Peoples0.59 %
Africa(South)_Khoisan_Peoples0.36 %
Oceania_Papuans0.07 %

G25 Original

Target: Duarte_scaled
Distance: 1.5315% / 0.01531454 | R5P | ADC: 0.25x RC
42.4Europe_Roman_Kingdom
26.0Europe_Celts
16.4Europe_Lusotannan_Lusitani
10.4MENA_Berber_Peoples
4.8Africa_Bantu_Peoples



Europe_Roman_Kingdom_Rural31.57 %
Europe_Celts_Brittonic_WalesN2_VK17124.97 %
Europe_Lusotannan_Lusitani18.62 %
MENA_Berber_Peoples9.87 %
Europe_Etruria_Etruscans7.65 %
Africa_Bantu_Peoples2.98 %
Europe_Archaic_Greeks1.74 %
Africa(Central)_Foragers_Baka1.41 %
Asia_Jomon_Japan0.47 %
Oceania_Papuans0.27 %
Africa(Central)_Foragers_Mbuti0.25 %
America_Amazon_Foragers0.21 %
 
Distance to: torzio_scaled
0.03191518 Europe_West_Central:Noricum_Celts
0.03232767 Europe_South_Central:Western_Illyrians
0.04007795 Europe_Southeast:Dacians
0.05031703 Europe_West_Central:Raetians_Vennones
0.05048624 Europe_South_Central:Latin_League
0.05065735 Europe_South_Central:Etruria_Etruscans
0.05334966 Europe_South_Central:Roman_Kingdom_rural
0.05482089 Europe_Southwest:Ligurians_Salluvii
0.05826124 Europe_West_Central:Continental_Gaulish
0.06264363 Europe_Southwest:Celtiberians
0.06766820 Europe_South_Central:Roman_Kingdom_urban
0.07145475 Europe_Southeast:Thracians
0.07416896 Europe_Southwest:Iberes_Northern
0.07500418 Europe_Southwest:Cantabri_Confederacy
0.07535078 Europe_Southwest:Carthage_Empire_Western
0.07599039 Europe_Northwest:Armoricans
0.07623465 Europe_Southwest:Iberes_Central
0.07693240 Europe_Southwest:Baleares_Talaiotic
0.07723303 Europe_Northwest:Brittonic_EnglandS
0.07984396 Europe_Northwest:Brittonic_WalesS2_I16405
0.08212450 Europe_Northwest:Caledonian_Scotland
0.08236461 Europe_Northwest:Brittonic_Cornwall
0.08304070 Europe_Northwest:Brittonic_EnglandN
0.08383222 Europe_Southwest:Carthage_Empire_Ebusus
0.08606336 Europe_South_Central:Sicily_Sikanoi


Target: torzio_scaled
Distance: 1.9034% / 0.01903391 | ADC: 0.25x RC
48.8 Europe_West_Central
25.2 Europe_Southeast
11.6 Europe_Northwest
10.2 MENA_Judah_Kingdom
4.2 Europe_East_Central
 
Distance to: italouruguayan


0.11056071 Europe_Eastern:Scythians
0.13459583 Europe_Southeast:Dacians
0.13584995 Sarmatia_Asiatica_Sarmatians
0.13590767 Europe_Eastern:Cimmerians
0.13828027 Europe_Southeast:Bosporus_Greeks
0.14025900 Sarmatia_Asiatica_Tagar_Scythians
0.14384658 Europe_Southwest:Carthage_Empire_Ebusus
0.14447298 Asia_Wusun_Nomads
0.14603780 Europe_West_Central:Continental_Gaulish
0.14660204 Europe_South_Central:Western_Illyrians
0.14787822 Europe_West_Central:Noricum_Celts
0.14817322 Europe_Northwest:Brittonic_EnglandN
0.14847471 Europe_Northwest:Brittonic_EnglandS
0.14861278 Europe_Northwest:Brittonic_WalesN1_I16475
0.14992617 Europe_Northwest:Brittonic_Cornwall
0.15087182 Europe_Northwest:Brittonic_WalesN2_VK171
0.15090322 Europe_Southwest:Ligurians_Salluvii
0.15165181 Europe_Northwest:Brittonic_WalesS2_I16405
0.15227802 Europe_Northwest:Brittonic_Scotland
0.15305307 Europe_Northwest:Armoricans
0.15310783 Europe_Southwest:Celtiberians
0.15338217 Europe_Northwest:Caledonian_Scotland
0.15351612 Europe_West_Central:Raetians_Vennones
0.15352580 Europe_Northwest:West_Germanic
0.15384377 MENA_Urartu_Kingdom_East


Target: italouruguayan

Distance: 0.6568% / 0.00656765

19.0 Europe_Northwest
13.4 Europe_East_Central
13.2 MENA_Carthage_Empire_Africa
12.8 Europe_South_Central
11.8 America_Amazon_Foragers
10.4 Europe_Southeast
5.0 America_Chavin_Civilization
3.8 Europe_Southwest
3.4 MENA_Judah_Kingdom
2.2 MENA_Phoenician_States
1.8 America_Ancestral_Puebloans
1.0 MENA_Elamo_Dravidians
0.8 Africa_Nilo_Saharan_Peoples
0.8 Africa(South)_Khoisan_Peoples
0.4 Africa(Central)_Foragers
0.2 Africa(West)_Niger_Congo_Peoples
 
Map showing approximate locations of reference populations:

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italouruguayan said:
Distance to: italouruguayan
0.11056071 Europe_Eastern:Scythians
0.13459583 Europe_Southeast:Dacians
0.13584995 Sarmatia_Asiatica_Sarmatians
0.13590767 Europe_Eastern:Cimmerians
0.13828027 Europe_Southeast:Bosporus_Greeks
0.14025900 Sarmatia_Asiatica_Tagar_Scythians
0.14384658 Europe_Southwest:Carthage_Empire_Ebusus
0.14447298 Asia_Wusun_Nomads
0.14603780 Europe_West_Central:Continental_Gaulish
0.14660204 Europe_South_Central:Western_Illyrians
0.14787822 Europe_West_Central:Noricum_Celts
0.14817322 Europe_Northwest:Brittonic_EnglandN
0.14847471 Europe_Northwest:Brittonic_EnglandS
0.14861278 Europe_Northwest:Brittonic_WalesN1_I16475
0.14992617 Europe_Northwest:Brittonic_Cornwall
0.15087182 Europe_Northwest:Brittonic_WalesN2_VK171
0.15090322 Europe_Southwest:Ligurians_Salluvii
0.15165181 Europe_Northwest:Brittonic_WalesS2_I16405
0.15227802 Europe_Northwest:Brittonic_Scotland
0.15305307 Europe_Northwest:Armoricans
0.15310783 Europe_Southwest:Celtiberians
0.15338217 Europe_Northwest:Caledonian_Scotland
0.15351612 Europe_West_Central:Raetians_Vennones
0.15352580 Europe_Northwest:West_Germanic
0.15384377 MENA_Urartu_Kingdom_East
Target: italouruguayan
Distance: 0.6568% / 0.00656765
19.0 Europe_Northwest
13.4 Europe_East_Central
13.2 MENA_Carthage_Empire_Africa
12.8 Europe_South_Central
11.8 America_Amazon_Foragers
10.4 Europe_Southeast
5.0 America_Chavin_Civilization
3.8 Europe_Southwest
3.4 MENA_Judah_Kingdom
2.2 MENA_Phoenician_States
1.8 America_Ancestral_Puebloans
1.0 MENA_Elamo_Dravidians
0.8 Africa_Nilo_Saharan_Peoples
0.8 Africa(South)_Khoisan_Peoples
0.4 Africa(Central)_Foragers
0.2 Africa(West)_Niger_Congo_Peoples
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MENA_Carthage_Empire_Africa 15.53 %
Europe_Balto_Slavic 13.74 %
America_Amazon_Foragers 13.54 %
Europe_Celts_Caledonian_Scotland 10.74 %
Europe_Archaic_Greeks 9.77 %
Europe_Roman_Kingdom_Urban 9.37 %
Europe_Early_Germanic_West 4.74 %
America_Chavin_Civilization 4.64 %
MENA_Judah_Kingdom 3.99 %
Europe_Daco_Thracians_Dacians 3.64 %
Europe_Early_Germanic_North 3.13 %
Europe_Carthage_Empire_Western 2.38 %
MENA_Elamo_Dravidians 1.57 %
MENA_Phoenician_States 0.85 %
Africa(South)_Khoisan_Peoples 0.81 %
Africa_Nilo_Saharan_Peoples 0.70 %
Africa(Central)_Foragers_Baka 0.40 %
Europe_Sicily_Sikanoi 0.33 %
Africa_Bantu_Peoples 0.15 %
 
Tomenable said:
Try my new Global25 scaled calculator:

https://www.exploreyourdna.com/calculateur/135/tomenable-world-6th-century-bc.htm - classic version

https://www.exploreyourdna.com/tomenable.aspx - version with a map

Recommended settings in Single/Multi:

Cycles - 4
Add Dist Col - 0.25X
Aggregate - Yes
Recalculate - Yes
Reduce - try without and then to 5 Populations
Print Zeroes - No

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Polish average scores:

Target: Polish
Distance: 0.7674% / 0.00767380 | ADC: 0.25x RC
75.6 Europe_Balto_Slavic
13.6 Europe_Early_Germanic
5.8 Europe_Celts
4.2 Europe_Daco_Thracians
0.8 MENA_Judah_Kingdom
Click to expand...


tomenable ,
small question
which reference do you used for the balto- slavic component ?
 
Tomenable said:
It is an average of the following three samples:
HUN_Avar_Szolad_Av2
RUS_Sunghir_MA_Sunghir6
KAZ_Golden_Horde_Euro:DA29
And I calculated their average using this tool:
https://dna-tools.xyz/calculate
Click to expand...
Nice (y)
So the average land somewhere in
modern Southwest russian;)


p.s
here is with living dna raw data ( in single mode more judea and levant generally speaking less slavic but both illyrian + celts appear ):cool-v:

distance:
Distance to:adam
0.04514671Europe_South_Central:Roman_Kingdom_urban
0.04646710Europe_Southeast:dacians
0.05097051Europe_Southeast:Bosporus_Greeks
0.05273730Europe_Southeast:Thracians
0.05609396Europe_Southwest:Carthage_Empire_Western
0.05711674Europe_Southeast:Archaic_Greeks
0.06013151Europe_Southwest:Carthage_Empire_Ebusus
0.06404695Europe_South_Central:Western_Illyrians
0.06759774MENA_Lydia_Kingdom
0.07654988Europe_South_Central:Sicily_Sikanoi
0.08287402MENA_Cilicia_Kingdom
0.08290548Europe_South_Central:Etruria_Etruscans
0.08292624Europe_South_Central:Roman_Kingdom_rural
0.08385743MENA_Phoenician_States
0.08585772MENA_Carthage_Empire_Africa
0.08801766Europe_West_Central:Noricum_Celts
0.08938453MENA_Luwian_Aramean_States
0.08979551MENA_Israel_Kingdom
0.09132403MENA_Urartu_Kingdom_Urumu
0.09136628Europe_South_Central:Latin_League
0.09268729Europe_West_Central:Raetians_Vennones
0.09443030MENA_Judah_Kingdom
0.09623908MENA_Urartu_Kingdom_East
0.09809373MENA_Ammon_Kingdom
0.10065751MENA_Philistine_Pentapolis





single
MENA_Judah_Kingdom13.10 %
MENA_Phoenician_States11.93 %
Europe_Roman_Kingdom_Urban11.65 %
Europe_Western_Illyrians11.20 %
Europe_Balto_Slavic9.19 %
Europe_Archaic_Greeks8.68 %
Europe_Celts_Brittonic_WalesN1_I164756.48 %
Europe_Bosporus_Greeks5.67 %
MENA_Cilicia_Kingdom4.96 %
MENA_Carthage_Empire_Africa4.53 %
Europe_Daco_Thracians_Thracians4.44 %
MENA_Median_Empire4.33 %
MENA_Berber_Peoples2.95 %
Swat_Valley_Indo_Aryans_Vedic_Age0.89 %
 
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Target: Luso_scaled
Distance: 1.9046% / 0.01904572

45.4Europe_Southwest
22.8Europe_Northwest
12.2Europe_South_Central
8.4MENA_Berber_Peoples
4.4Europe_West_Central
2.6Europe_East_Central
1.8Africa_Cushitic_Peoples
1.4Europe_Northeast
1.0Africa(Central)_Foragers
 
Target: Florere
​
Distance: 0.3843% / 0.00384260 | ADC: 0.25x RC
56.8Europe_South_Central
15.4Europe_Southeast
12.8Europe_West_Central
7.8Caucasus_Colchis_Kingdom
7.2Europe_Southwest


Unaggregated

Target: Florere
​
Distance: 0.3843% / 0.00384260 | ADC: 0.25x RC
35.2Europe_South_Central:Western_Illyrians
13.4Europe_South_Central:Etruria_Etruscans
12.8Europe_West_Central:Noricum_Celts
9.2Europe_Southeast:Thracians
8.2Europe_South_Central:Roman_Kingdom_urban
7.8Caucasus_Colchis_Kingdom
7.2Europe_Southwest:Carthage_Empire_Ebusus
6.2Europe_Southeast:Dacians
 
Target: Anthony_C_scaled
Distance: 2.0073% / 0.02007299 | R3P | ADC: 0.25x RC
37.2 Europe_Southeast:Archaic_Greeks
19.0 Europe_East_Central:Balto_Slavic
18.2 Europe_Southeast:Bosporus_Greeks
14.2 Europe_South_Central:Western_Illyrians
11.4 Europe_South_Central:Sicily_Sikanoi
0.0 Europe_South_Central:Etruria_Etruscans
0.0 Europe_South_Central:Latin_League
0.0 Europe_South_Central:Roman_Kingdom_rural
0.0 Europe_South_Central:Roman_Kingdom_urban
0.0 Europe_Southeast:Dacians
0.0 Europe_Southeast:Thracians
 
Target: TheHolyGoose_scaled
Distance: 2.0398% / 0.02039778 | ADC: 0.25x RC
74.0Europe_Northwest
16.4Europe_West_Central
9.6Europe_South_Central

Unaggregated:

Target: TheHolyGoose_scaled
Distance: 2.0398% / 0.02039778 | ADC: 0.25x RC
37.6Europe_Northwest:Caledonian_Scotland
32.8Europe_Northwest:North_Germanic
16.4Europe_West_Central:Noricum_Celts
9.6Europe_South_Central:Western_Illyrians
3.6Europe_Northwest:Brittonic_EnglandN
 
I got some insane looney results lol
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There's more but its alot
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8141cbd84d557f70ddf8d93f136e27d1.jpg
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07e9253da865c7f1ff38ae58e581ab5d.jpg
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Wanderer - are you sure that you used your scaled coordinates? You probably used unscaled.
 
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