UEFA Euro 2020

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So predictions for today's matches? Switzerland vs Spain, Belgium vs Italy?
 
Come on Ailchu! These virtue-signaling football players could've expressed their solidarity with the victims, and show respect. Besides, the policeman who killed George Floyd is punished and sentenced to life. In addition to that, the family of Floyd got 27 Million $ compensation for his death. We already had enough riots, demonstrations, and expressions of solidarity for him and BLM. Why can these very recent victims of this senseless violence get the same attention and empathy? And yes the German and English football players could've shown that they are against radical Islamists or terrorists who kill innocent people. Why not? Racism is not only ill in this world, and hate comes in different forms, shapes, and fashions. It's upsetting that the German team doesn't care about the people who were killed in their own country, yet cry crocodile tears for a man that was killed in the USA one year ago. Bowing down to the BLM movement is not a virtue, thus has no place in football. It's obvious that you are left-leaning, but sometimes you have to get out of your liberal/SJW bubble and tunnel vision for a change. I mean no hard feelings. Anyway, I hope you understand that I don't want to attack you as a person, but I don't agree with your opinion. My point is that I have an issue with the selective expression of solidarity.

the BLM kneeling was done because the english team did it, the germans would not have done it otherwise as far as i understood it. it is also not just about George Floyd.
i get your point but imo jihadism has way less relation to football while anti-racism campaigns are part of football culture, 2. it is way less common. you are right that in some way it is inconsequent because german football teams mourned for the victims of Halle and Hanau.i guess this is just seen as a bigger problem for germany than jihadism.
 
So predictions for today's matches? Switzerland vs Spain, Belgium vs Italy?

Actually, they are going on Friday.

I feel at this point, it is anyone's game, every team that is there has played marvelously.
 
Actually, they are going on Friday.

I feel at this point, it is anyone's game, every team that is there has played marvelously.

Yeah thought today was July 2nd, turned on the TV and no Euro games.

According to some French papers, there was a lot of internal dissension in the French team.
 
The Economist explains how the Euro 2020 is politics by other means. Great article. Here is an excerpt:

Football, after all, is a potential ally of every ideology, a perfect canvas on which to project a worldview. Socialists can hail an industry in which nearly all the money goes to the workers. Statists can applaud how government-funded football camps on the edge of Paris churn out a stream of world-class footballers (albeit ones incapable of beating Switzerland). Capitalists point out that the sport’s explosion came thanks to free markets, allowing footballers to play wherever they liked and clubs to pay whatever they pleased. Autocrats are reminded that ends trump means, as football fans accept glory no matter how dodgy the money that bought it. Conservatives, meanwhile, can hold onto the sport as the last stand of the nation-state. Where there is attention there is politics, and football is simply too big to ignore.
 
True to form Spain and Italy advanced. Spain is just not convincing me but they seem to be the team of destiny. I think England and Denmark go through tomorrow.
 
Italy has a difficult path Belgium, France and maybe Germany at the end. Italy has a good group but no really top quality to solve difficult matches. Imagine if Arnautovic gol was good.


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Every single one of those teams have been eliminated, except for Italy.

Who is your pick in light of recent developments?
 
Every single one of those teams have been eliminated, except for Italy.

Who is your pick in light of recent developments?

Sorry to butt in, Jovialis, but I don't know if you've seen this analysis by professionals, a Frenchman and Brits, saying Italy has played brilliantly and consistently throughout the competition, and should be the favorite.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REQuy4Kb3dc

I would agree with that.

However, anything can happen in this game, which is what makes every game a nail biter, so you never know, and I'm concerned about the loss of Spinazzola.

Everybody has been talking about the great team spirit they have, and I think it's down to the relationship between the players and also to Mancini. Part of it is also, I think, that it's never a good idea to trash talk the Italian team before a game. Sometimes it makes them so angry that it turns into more determination. Anyway, what a difference from what seems to be going on among the French players. It's a pity, because they're a good team. Always a bad idea, imo, to have a family member manage you, but the coach should have been able to build a better sense in them that the team comes first.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PA8Ea0X7g50

Btw, trivial, I know, but can we talk about the clothes??? Bespoke Armani suits at every game, although Mancini looked so tense every time that I hardly think he noticed what he was wearing! :)
 
So it is set. Spain vs Italy and England vs Denmark. I have Italy winning over Spain and England winning over Denmark and England winning over Italy in the final.
 
If that happens England fans will be boring the rest of us for generations to come.
They STILL mention their only WORLD CUP in 1966 when all games were played in London at Wembley.
 
The danes are vikings it is not going
To be easy for england ( it is not ukraine)
They play great

P.s
Harry kane and sterling in the english squad
Are truly good have to admitt
 
The danes are vikings it is not going
To be easy for england ( it is not ukraine)
They play great
P.s
Harry kane and sterling in the english squad
Are truly good have to admitt

only 1 in 10 Danes are Vikings.

… the discovery that traces of Viking DNA are still present today not only in the Apulian population but also 1 in 10 Danish and in one on 16 British …

The real identity of the Vikings, told by DNA
( … in Italian)

https://wonderwhy.it/la-vera-identita-dei-vichinghi-raccontata-dal-dna/
 
only 1 in 10 Danes are Vikings.
… the discovery that traces of Viking DNA are still present today not only in the Apulian population but also 1 in 10 Danish and in one on 16 British …
The real identity of the Vikings, told by DNA
( … in Italian)
https://wonderwhy.it/la-vera-identita-dei-vichinghi-raccontata-dal-dna/

Realy :shocked:
How is that possible
Only 1/10 danes and the other 9/10
Danes
Cluster with who autosomally ?
Eastern europeans ?
West europeans ?
:thinking:

P s
I am sure that if we go by there y haplogroup
There is a continuty and direct descendents of the ancient danes there paternal ancestors
 
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If that happens England fans will be boring the rest of us for generations to come.
They STILL mention their only WORLD CUP in 1966 when all games were played in London at Wembley.

Obviously, I really, really want Italy to win, and it's possible, but these are four good teams, even if one group was a lot tougher than the other, and this sport is always frustratingly difficult to predict. I'm also concerned about the loss of such a great player, and someone key to the strategy for the next game.

I just personally am so happy for how far Mancini has taken them from the debacle of a few years ago.

What will be, will be.

@Salento,

I once speculated that maybe they exported their hyper-aggressive genes. :) The same has sometimes been speculated about the U.S., in that the risk takers of their own country contributed a lot to the genes of the U.S. Just a thought.

I do like the "story" of the Danish team. Kudos to them for overcoming so much adversity.
 
Obviously, I really, really want Italy to win, and it's possible, but these are four good teams, even if one group was a lot tougher than the other, and this sport is always frustratingly difficult to predict. I'm also concerned about the loss of such a great player, and someone key to the strategy for the next game.

I just personally am so happy for how far Mancini has taken them from the debacle of a few years ago.

What will be, will be.

@Salento,

I once speculated that maybe they exported their hyper-aggressive genes. :) The same has sometimes been speculated about the U.S., in that the risk takers of their own country contributed a lot to the genes of the U.S. Just a thought.

I do like the "story" of the Danish team. Kudos to them for overcoming so much adversity.

Italy won their last World Cup in 2006 when Lippi led a united team with few stars but with great spirit just like Mancini with this present squad in the Euros.
 
Obviously, I really, really want Italy to win, and it's possible, but these are four good teams, even if one group was a lot tougher than the other, and this sport is always frustratingly difficult to predict. I'm also concerned about the loss of such a great player, and someone key to the strategy for the next game.

I just personally am so happy for how far Mancini has taken them from the debacle of a few years ago.

What will be, will be.

@Salento,

I once speculated that maybe they exported their hyper-aggressive genes. :) The same has sometimes been speculated about the U.S., in that the risk takers of their own country contributed a lot to the genes of the U.S. Just a thought.

I do like the "story" of the Danish team. Kudos to them for overcoming so much adversity.

… maybe they did :)

obviously I support Italy,

…they say we can’t win them all, but I hope we do :grin:

Happy Independence Day !
 
Th reason I think that England is going to win it all is that they have tremendous depth and really good defense.
 
Th reason I think that England is going to win it all is that they have tremendous depth and really good defense.

Also good for them that they play in wembley
Stadium
Home crowd was never a minus
 
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