US freedom: illusion or reality?

I addressed your inputs, but you didn't address mine. For example:
You said that US is only about money. In response I listed many great things about US that is not about money. You didn't dispute my points at all. Does it means you agreed with them?
Furthermore, I posted my proof of evolutionary character of capitalism/free market economy. Did you agree?

You're trying to make it all look black and white, but it isn't. Capitalism is as same is communism, the only difference is where the borders are put. Communist decided to categorize oil, bread and couple of other products as of 'vital importance' so that they could control their prices, because they were afraid that some opportunists and monopolists would use advantage of it in a postwar apocalyptic environment. A big deal.

Everything is defined by the law, and you can't do much even in a capitalist country. Real 'evolutionism' would be a Conan Barbarian society. The only difference between capitalism and socialism is where they put the final boundaries, and it depends on how much are they afraid on loosing their ground. US is full-mouthed with human rights all around the world, but when their ass is at stake, then Guantanamo is totally OK. Same as Gulag if you ask me. So did Soviets did with their 'enemies', so do Americans, and so do everyone, and always will. In fact I'm sure US did that before Guantanamo came out in public. So, there is no need to lie ourselves about it.

It's really sad, but lately I have a feeling that all the progress that was done by our 'civilized' world was done for war purposes, and that only after surpassed, those technologies were given to the commoners.

LeBrok said:
Exactly like Serbia to other Yugoslavia ethnic groups? It wouldn't be hypocritical if you criticized Serbia first for being aggressive and annoying, or started a thread about Serbia aggression, before you started mouthing other countries.

If you had looked at the demographic composition of Serbia, you would have noticed that there was about 20% of minorities here since 1948, and that number never significantly drop down. Only time there was a major refugee crisis was during the NATO bombing.

If you cared to take a look on Kosovo demographics by ethnic group, you would have noticed the rise of Albanian minority from 500.000 up to 1.5 million in a period from 1948-1991. Those numbers say everything about how they were treated in Serbia.

And I really don't know what are you talking about Serbian aggression. I don't remember Serbian troops in other countries.

You're constantly diverting this conversation and trying to address me, my feelings, my country, my mental state or whatever. I don't think it's a good thing to make a rhetoric attack on a person or bygone deeds of some of his friends/compatriots just because you don't agree/like his opinion on some subject.

BTW, you're news agencies are indeed so biased and censored that you would need to break away from it, and read some literature that could give you a real info about the situation in the region.


LeBrok said:
If it is the truth, I'd like it much better than whole world like China, Russia, Serbia or Greece.
Well, I wouldn't like it any other way than this. I'd like to have China, and Russia and Greece, and Norway, and Brazil, and everyone else the way that they want to be.
 
some people here try to tell us that 'free world' still exist,

YES IF I EAT MC-DONALDS AND DRINK COLA I AM FREE, AND HAVE iPhone5 I AM FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE YEAHHHHHHHHHH.

only for those who are interested,

 
No wonder you don't like iPhone, its because your music only shows message "music-content is not available in Germany". You don't like McDonalds but you never tried. You should really try McDonalds, it works great with iPhone.

 
I guess he never tried Mcdonanlds and iphone5
so probably he was not 'free' in the land of the Free.


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