Politics Vote for a president of USA - 2016 election

Pick a president.

  • Hillary Clinton

    Votes: 11 20.8%

  • Bernie Sanders

    Votes: 11 20.8%

  • Ted Cruz

    Votes: 3 5.7%

  • Marco Rubio

    Votes: 4 7.5%

  • Donald Trump

    Votes: 24 45.3%
  • Total voters
    53
  • Poll closed .
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LeBrok said:
There is growing uncertainty in me that I didn't do the smartest decision not including Kasich in the poll. To update the poll would mean losing all the votes so far. On other hand I'm tempted to allow vote changing, and this would mean that people could change votes, change their minds, and vote for remaining candidates till the president is elected. Other words we would see how voting pattern changes with time.
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Well, yesterday, Kasich was mathematically eliminated from getting enough delegates to get the nomination on his own. Maybe a bigger mistake was including Rubio. :embarassed:

Maybe wait and make another poll for the general election once the candidates are nominated? (And don't forget the third parties this time!) I did something like that in 2012, not so many responses though: http://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/27672-Who-do-you-want-to-win-the-2012-US-presidential-election
 
sparkey said:
Well, yesterday, Kasich was mathematically eliminated from getting enough delegates to get the nomination on his own. Maybe a bigger mistake was including Rubio. :embarassed:

Maybe wait and make another poll for the general election once the candidates are nominated? (And don't forget the third parties this time!) I did something like that in 2012, not so many responses though: http://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/27672-Who-do-you-want-to-win-the-2012-US-presidential-election
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You must have picked a boring election. :)
 
Trump adds ammunition for people seeing him as a rude, violent, dictatorial, or even Hitler like material:
Republican presidential frontrunner Donald Trump has warned of riots if he is denied the party's presidential nomination for the November 8 United States election.
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-03-17/donald-trump-warns-riots-if-no-white-house-nod/7253076

Seems like a scare tactic and type of extortion aimed against delegates of Republican Party who could overturn his nomination. I think this is scary.
 
Trump is considered one of 10 biggest danger to world's economy by The Economist magazine.
https://gfs.eiu.com/Archive.aspx?archiveType=globalrisk


April 2016
 
LeBrok said:
Trump is considered one of 10 biggest danger to world's economy by The Economist magazine.
https://gfs.eiu.com/Archive.aspx?archiveType=globalrisk


April 2016
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Trump likes that, he got the press again.
And for the press, Trump has become a good selling item.
Officialy though, they hate each other.

The press makes the theater continue, it is their bread and butter.
 
Maleth said:
....and China calls him a "racist clown".........and they are still in the nomination race:rolleyes:........just a taster for things to come
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They say that Trump is the proof that democracy doesn't work.
 
While 60% of Republicans don't support Trump as the nominee of the Republican Party, and 40% at least say they'd be willing to vote for a third party even if it meant electing Hillary Clinton, what is happening in Europe might just fuel support for Trump in the next primaries.

I even read that Trump had been planning to run for maybe a decade but waited until there was a crowded field so that the forces against him would be fractured.

This is turning into the perfect storm.

@LeBroc,
Yeah, like living under one authoritarian regime after another like the people in Russia and China has been so great.
 
LeBrok said:
Trump is considered one of 10 biggest danger to world's economy by The Economist magazine.
https://gfs.eiu.com/Archive.aspx?archiveType=globalrisk


April 2016
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for what it is worth :

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/faber-id-vote-trump-because-165933151.html

[h=1]Faber: I'd vote for Trump because 'Hillary Clinton will destroy the whole world'[/h]
Faber is nicknamed 'Dr Doom'.

There are a lot of Dr Dooms around, here on this forum and elsewhere.
 
bicicleur said:
for what it is worth :

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/faber-id-vote-trump-because-165933151.html

Faber: I'd vote for Trump because 'Hillary Clinton will destroy the whole world'


Faber is nicknamed 'Dr Doom'.

There are a lot of Dr Dooms around, here on this forum and elsewhere.
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The problem is that he doesn't explain why he thinks Hilary will destroy the whole world. I am not following the campaign closely, but I still don't understand what's terribly wrong about Hilary Clinton, apart from the known corruption charges (inevitable in top politicians, so I don't think other candidates would fare any better).
 
Angela said:
While 60% of Republicans don't support Trump as the nominee of the Republican Party, and 40% at least say they'd be willing to vote for a third party even if it meant electing Hillary Clinton, what is happening in Europe might just fuel support for Trump in the next primaries.
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Indeed Angela, but yet the likes of Trump did not even show up in any of the parties when nearly 3000 Americans where killed in September 11, 15 years ago. I dont think Trump supporters will be greatly influenced on what happens in Europe. I did notice however how Trump talks about Paris and Europe, he is more then willing to gives the impression that everyone is locked up in their houses and paralysed in fear which is not the case. Its easy to play on peoples imagination especially on those who never got a plane and traveled out the country. Neither was New York after those horrendous attacks. People were defiant but cautions but the rhythm picked up faster then anyone expected.
 
Maciamo said:
The problem is that he doesn't explain why he thinks Hilary will destroy the whole world. I am not following the campaign closely, but I still don't understand what's terribly wrong about Hilary Clinton, apart from the known corruption charges (inevitable in top politicians, so I don't think other candidates would fare any better).
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My point is there are a lot of unexplained comments here.

Yet Faber alludes at the Middle East politics of Clinton, I can think of a few things :
- failure of Arabic spring, once aplauded and supported by the west
- cooperation with Erdogan and the Saudis who deny all respect for democracy, freedom of press and human rights

It is a big mess and the west seems uncapable of or not willing to changing its Middle East policies.

Trump may not offer a solution, but neither do established politicians.

IMO it is time for some 'Realpolitik'.
 
LeBrok said:
Trump is considered one of 10 biggest danger to world's economy by The Economist magazine.
https://gfs.eiu.com/Archive.aspx?archiveType=globalrisk


April 2016
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They forgot North Korea and Iran. Else this list of scapegoats is pretty much complete.
 
Hillary Clinton has been an extremely polarizing figure in American politics for decades. Her recent and obvious misuse of security documents and blatant lies about it just reinforce already existing attitudes toward her. I'm going to have a severe crisis of conscience if I wind up having to vote for her.
 
Maciamo said:
The problem is that he doesn't explain why he thinks Hilary will destroy the whole world. I am not following the campaign closely, but I still don't understand what's terribly wrong about Hilary Clinton, apart from the known corruption charges (inevitable in top politicians, so I don't think other candidates would fare any better).
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Exactly. We can assume that Clinton economic policy will be a continuation of Obama's. As we know, US economy is doing quite good, actually one of the best of established and big economies in the world. Clinton might be a good bet for everyone wanting to maintain status quo and is afraid of uncertainty of Trum presidency. Keeping status quo till there is a better choice in 4 years.
 
A group of about fifty protestors tried to close down a main road to a Trump event. These kinds of attempts to shut down free speech just enrage his followers all the more and the organizers run the very real risk of making him even more popular. I'm starting to get really pissed off myself. His supporters also have the right to go to his rallies.

There were also a few thousand people marching on the Trump Tower in Manhattan. They didn't have a permit but were marching down the middle of the street, blocking traffic. When the police tried to get them out of the street and onto the sidewalks, they rushed the police. They've also been rushing the barricades around Trump Tower. From what I can see, the police are being very cautious and finely treading the line between the right to protest versus the rights of other citizens. However, when these professional protestors start throwing things or attacking the police they should be hauled off to jail.
 
Angela said:
A group of about fifty protestors tried to close down a main road to a Trump event. These kinds of attempts to shut down free speech just enrage his followers all the more and the organizers run the very real risk of making him even more popular. I'm starting to get really pissed off myself. His supporters also have the right to go to his rallies.

There were also a few thousand people marching on the Trump Tower in Manhattan. They didn't have a permit but were marching down the middle of the street, blocking traffic. When the police tried to get them out of the street and onto the sidewalks, they rushed the police. They've also been rushing the barricades around Trump Tower. From what I can see, the police are being very cautious and finely treading the line between the right to protest versus the rights of other citizens. However, when these professional protestors start throwing things or attacking the police they should be hauled off to jail.
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As much as I love free speech, I can't help but notice how divided the news system is. One set of news groups say that Trump is kicking out the entire Mexican people out of America and the KKK spam calls people. The other side says that Trump is just kicking out only illegal immigrants. One side of Bernie says he's a socialist yet the other says that he wants to create a greener America.

So yes, a lot of confusion and fingerpointing.
 
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