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"Ancestors of Mieszko I - were they vikings, or did they come from Great Moravia? Piast DNA will show":
http://poznan.gazeta.pl/poznan/1,36...i_wikingami_czy_przybyli_z.html#ixzz3d1ll1Iqt
"Were the Piasts a local or a foreign dynasty? If foreign, then did ancestors of Mieszko I come from the north, from Great Moravia, or from elsewhere? These and other questions will be answered by specialists in early history of Poland. And specialists in DNA research from Poznan will help them.
This Wednesday [17.06.2015] in the Institute of Organic Chemistry of PAN (Polish Academy of Sciences) - Wieniawskiego street 17/19 in Poznań - an international scientific conference will begin, presenting the most recent findings of historians, archaeologists, biochemists and geneticists, concerning the beginnings of the Medieval Polish realm. Since Wednesday until Friday scholars will discuss the creation of Poland and the origins of the Piast Dynasty, compared to similar realms of Central Europe. They will especially discuss the question which new things to our knowledge of the past come from interdisciplinary studies, including research by specialists in population genetics.
Where did Mieszko I come from?
The choice of place where the conference will be held, is not random: for the last two years, the Institute of Organic Chemistry of PAN in Poznan has been involved in the research project, the goal of which is to finally solve the mysterious origins of Mieszko and of his Piast dynasty. A renowned historian - late Kazimierz Jasiński - identified 340 burials of various members of the Piast dynasty. If we manage to identify paternal lineage of Y-DNA originating from Mieszko I and Boleslav Chrobry, we will discover what was the Y chromosome of Mieszko - prof. Marek Figlerowicz, director of of the Institute of Organic Biochemistry of PAN explains - "If we then compare this genetic data with DNA of modern people, we will be able to say whether Mieszko's genome was a Slavic genome, or whether it was a Scandinavian genome. And whether genetic material of simple commoners was identical with DNA material of the ruling dynasty, or not? Because if it was, then it means that ancestors of the Piasts were descendants of 'ours'. And if not, then it means that early Poland's ruling elite had a foreign origin."
The origin of the Piasts is one of the great mysteries of history. Not only historians try to figure out, how and from where did suddenly, in the middle of Greater Poland's forests, a clan emerge, which soon dominated its neighbours, constructing a system of powerful fortified towns, such as those in Giecz, Grzybowo, Poznań, Gniezno and Ostrów Lednicki island in the southern portion of Lake Lednica. And then they conquered neighbouring territories and created a strong realm. Until some point a hypothesis of northern, Norman origins of the Piast was popular. Its followers maintained that the Piasts were vikings, who created statehood from scratch at the Warta River. But there is lack of evidence to support this hypothesis.
Mieszko's ancestors from Great Moravia?
More recently, another hypothesis has gained in popularity. A hypothesis about southern, Moravian origin of ancestors of Mieszko, first proposed by scholars of the Poznan department of PAN, late prof. Zofia Kurnatowska and prof. Michał Kara. Scholars pointed out to close chronological proximity of the collapse of Great Moravia and the beginnings of Poland - both of which date back to the early 10th century. It cannot be ruled out, that ancestors of Mieszko were descendants of Great Moravian elites, who escaped to the Warta River basin following the defeat inflicted upon them by Magyar invaders.
Was that the case? Maybe we shall hear new arguments supporting this hypothesis. The conference is organized by the Institute of History and the Institute of Prehistory of PAN, with cooperation of the Institute of Biochemistry of PAN in Poznan.
Free entry."
http://poznan.gazeta.pl/poznan/1,36...i_wikingami_czy_przybyli_z.html#ixzz3d1ll1Iqt
"Were the Piasts a local or a foreign dynasty? If foreign, then did ancestors of Mieszko I come from the north, from Great Moravia, or from elsewhere? These and other questions will be answered by specialists in early history of Poland. And specialists in DNA research from Poznan will help them.
This Wednesday [17.06.2015] in the Institute of Organic Chemistry of PAN (Polish Academy of Sciences) - Wieniawskiego street 17/19 in Poznań - an international scientific conference will begin, presenting the most recent findings of historians, archaeologists, biochemists and geneticists, concerning the beginnings of the Medieval Polish realm. Since Wednesday until Friday scholars will discuss the creation of Poland and the origins of the Piast Dynasty, compared to similar realms of Central Europe. They will especially discuss the question which new things to our knowledge of the past come from interdisciplinary studies, including research by specialists in population genetics.
Where did Mieszko I come from?
The choice of place where the conference will be held, is not random: for the last two years, the Institute of Organic Chemistry of PAN in Poznan has been involved in the research project, the goal of which is to finally solve the mysterious origins of Mieszko and of his Piast dynasty. A renowned historian - late Kazimierz Jasiński - identified 340 burials of various members of the Piast dynasty. If we manage to identify paternal lineage of Y-DNA originating from Mieszko I and Boleslav Chrobry, we will discover what was the Y chromosome of Mieszko - prof. Marek Figlerowicz, director of of the Institute of Organic Biochemistry of PAN explains - "If we then compare this genetic data with DNA of modern people, we will be able to say whether Mieszko's genome was a Slavic genome, or whether it was a Scandinavian genome. And whether genetic material of simple commoners was identical with DNA material of the ruling dynasty, or not? Because if it was, then it means that ancestors of the Piasts were descendants of 'ours'. And if not, then it means that early Poland's ruling elite had a foreign origin."
The origin of the Piasts is one of the great mysteries of history. Not only historians try to figure out, how and from where did suddenly, in the middle of Greater Poland's forests, a clan emerge, which soon dominated its neighbours, constructing a system of powerful fortified towns, such as those in Giecz, Grzybowo, Poznań, Gniezno and Ostrów Lednicki island in the southern portion of Lake Lednica. And then they conquered neighbouring territories and created a strong realm. Until some point a hypothesis of northern, Norman origins of the Piast was popular. Its followers maintained that the Piasts were vikings, who created statehood from scratch at the Warta River. But there is lack of evidence to support this hypothesis.
Mieszko's ancestors from Great Moravia?
More recently, another hypothesis has gained in popularity. A hypothesis about southern, Moravian origin of ancestors of Mieszko, first proposed by scholars of the Poznan department of PAN, late prof. Zofia Kurnatowska and prof. Michał Kara. Scholars pointed out to close chronological proximity of the collapse of Great Moravia and the beginnings of Poland - both of which date back to the early 10th century. It cannot be ruled out, that ancestors of Mieszko were descendants of Great Moravian elites, who escaped to the Warta River basin following the defeat inflicted upon them by Magyar invaders.
Was that the case? Maybe we shall hear new arguments supporting this hypothesis. The conference is organized by the Institute of History and the Institute of Prehistory of PAN, with cooperation of the Institute of Biochemistry of PAN in Poznan.
Free entry."