I've never seen someone shit on their own haplogroup so hard, it's very strange behavior.
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I've never seen someone shit on their own haplogroup so hard, it's very strange behavior.
There are J2b2 Arvanites and Arberesh, but you can just ignore them like you do everything, to make yourself feel smaller about your haplogroup. I've never seen someone shit on their own haplogroup so hard, it's very strange behavior.
What's next? If we find a couple I2a Arbereshe, you and your E-V13 buddies will say it must be a Proto-Albanian haplogroup because it's more widespread in Toskeria than J2b2, LOL. "There it is, it seems Toskeria was heavily E-V13 + R1b + I2a, much at the demise of the J2b2 holders"
Sorry, but you're showing us nothing to support your "genetic evidences". All you're doing is recycling your unsubstantiated personal beliefs. I don't have any more time to waste today
Ah yes, the "mountains" of Nish, and Shtip. Nish has an elevation of 640 feet, Shtip has an elevation of 1000ft. They are cities in low lands. You call these mountains?
The Albanian Alps have an elevation of 9000ft, and the Sharr mountains have an elevation of 9000ft. Dibra, 9000ft. 9 times the height of Shtip and 14 times greater than Nish lol. Why do you think Proto-Albanians didn't survive in Nish & Shtip? Too low of an elevation, too easily accessible, while the Northern Albanian Alps and the mountain range from Sharr to Ohrid, are very tall, steep, with many valleys, narrow chokepoints, and cliff towers to fend off invaders. J2b2 is highest in these mountains. Living and developing in the mountains is how Proto-Albanians survived in it's early stages. Summers in the mountains, winters in the low lands, where we had contact with Latins and then Slavs.
There are J2b2 Arvanites and Arberesh, but you can just ignore them like you do everything, to make yourself feel smaller about your haplogroup. I've never seen someone shit on their own haplogroup so hard, it's very strange behavior.
What's next? If we find a couple I2a Arbereshe, you and your E-V13 buddies will say it must be a Proto-Albanian haplogroup because it's more widespread in Toskeria than J2b2, LOL. "There it is, it seems Toskeria was heavily E-V13 + R1b + I2a, much at the demise of the J2b2 holders"
They are basically claiming the same for E1b-V13 and R1b-Z2705. J2b-L283 is like nope I don't want to multiply anymore you guys do your thing here are our wives. Or perhaps they massively decided to drown themselves in the Adriatic.
A partial population replacement which everything is f***** pointing to is not okay because we are all the same and every haplogroup is Albanian and Albanians are Illyrians and the whole Balkan peninsular is Illyrian. Moesians? Dacians? Thracians? Paeonians? Never heard of these folks. Dardania? Is that a thing or something? Albanians are the Natives of the Natives they are a SyNoNyM FoR NaTiViTy.
He is an Albanian nationalistic troll account with false info in his bio. He also is not J2b-L283 in case you are wondering. He has multiple puppet accounts on this forum where he basically claims the whole world and every haplogroup is Albanian .
Buza is used quite often as nickname for Albanians with thick lips. Even during wartime they nicknamed people like that. So, looks quite credible as much as the Dacian name Diegis meaning the burnt/flamed one which has similar meaning to Albanian djegs.
As for Coutzes i have no idea. Derite is quite the expert on linguistics and etymologies.
Matzinger has already put his decade-long of study in a book. I tend more to trust credible linguists like him. I do believe Pre/Proto-Albanoid(note that this is not Proto-Albanian but much ancient, Late Bronze Age) was one of the languages brought by the Gava/Channeled-Ware people which took the Central Balkans route and not the Eastern Thracoid variants which had latter heavy Iranid influences both culturally and linguistically likely.
Likely similar people pushed into Albania during Late Bronze Age attested by the Kanellure influence, but were latter swamped and included by the Early-Middle Iron Age Glasinac expansion.
You even have it in legend/mythology where the cremating Enchelei were being attacked by Northern Illyrians likely the Glasinac-Mat people.
This is utter nonsense and garbage. "Kuq" is a Latin loanword ultimately of Greek origin Coccum -> Kokkos meaning berry. Buze derives from Budhe + ze, coming from earlier *Budza.
Haplobros should stick to making up fake stories about their Y-DNAs.
So, in the first part of your sentence you claim it is completely nonsense and garbage and in the second part you just go in line what i said, not opposing at all, Buzas is indeed a proper Albanian name and somehow which i never indicated how is related to Thracian Bouzas, could be a folk etymology just as Matzinger hinted for many of Illyrian words. As for Kuqi, Koutzes, never indicated something, it looks to be Vulgar Latin adaption in Albanian.
IMO, you have some serious issues.
You are a troll for sure, using dodgy-lines one-liners won't make you shift the attention, elaborate why and how. I think that Riverman's systematic approach is the best explanation on anthrofora which comes close, he knows his shit. He'll go one by one explaining how, when and why he thinks so, something which you guys lack and substitute by trolling, ad-hominems and personal insults. Lack of knowledge in combination with an ego beyond what you can bear.
Both you and him are clowns writing LOTR lore backed up by nothing. Like seriously, nothing you say has any historic backing by any sources. You're just two basement dwellers writing medieval fantasy stories about your Y-DNA.
The EV13s did this, The J2b did this. Complete childlike understanding of history and archeology. We're talking IE tribes that used to be primarily R1b-Z2103 heavy, now Z2103s are minorities. That's how Y-DNA works. But you would need a functioning brain to figure that out.
Your reply doesn't surprise me, it contains absolutely no substance, just dodgy-lines, one-liners ("clown", "backed by nothing", "medieval fantasy", "that's not how it works"), care to elaborate exactly what did we say, teach us who things works, why do you think the things are said don't make sense? Elaborate and reply on the respective thread if you feel so, but replying like this without substance is beyond ridiculous.
I seriously doubt you have the mental capacity to reflect on what we said exactly, your low IQ combined with your ego prevents you from doing that.
Yes, it takes great perspicacity and brain power to grasp your esoteric "But EV-13s went like this, and J2bs went like that, and R1bs were like WOW" discourse. Very scholarly.
You sound like a bunch of 12 year old children who want everything oversimplified and dumbed down.
Your reply doesn't surprise me, it contains absolutely no substance, just dodgy-lines, one-liners ("clown", "backed by nothing", "medieval fantasy", "that's not how it works"), care to elaborate exactly what did we say, teach us how things works, why do you think the things are said don't make sense? Elaborate and reply on the respective thread if you feel so, but replying like this without substance is beyond ridiculous.
I seriously doubt you have the mental capacity to reflect on what we said exactly, your low IQ combined with your ego prevents you from doing that. You just don't have the knowledge (i never seen you once write about or cite any archaelogical paper on ancient Balkans, just rambles and cursing words), don't read archaeology on ancient Balkans, are not curious, because of that lack you act in state of desperation accusing us without any substance.
As for magjup, proto J people were dark skinned. I people, in particular i2a were the true europeans
You are not being honest, we have people here talking about Alexander of Macedon, Epirots and rotating everything to Illyria.
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Here we are now, a lot has been rethought and reshaped by the genetic evidence. Except in the most backward spot in Europe. Everyone has moved around, migration here, there. But not in Albania, we are the most ancient ever.
In case you arent aware, ukraine and south poland were part of the dacian world. Some i2a-din tmrca in south europe precedes the slavic expansion by hundreds of years
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so far just like v-13 it has been hard to come by possibly due to cremation. So, what do you think is dacian y dna or did they just dissapear into thin air?
What you need to understand is i2a is the original marker of europeans and has been in europe for 20,000+ years so it makes little sense for it to all of a sudden expand in europe with late arrivals from the east (slavs) where i2 has very little history
This also one Albanian guy who has the habit of linking Slavic YDNAs here in particular I-Y3120 with the general Paleo-Balkans like Dacians because it is not in line with his Pan-Albaniansim:
Don't expect anything from these people.
Both you and him are clowns writing LOTR lore backed up by nothing. Like seriously, nothing you say has any historic backing by any sources. You're just two basement dwellers writing medieval fantasy stories about your Y-DNA.
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