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How do we know that?...and apparently the architect of the talks would be China.
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How do we know that?...and apparently the architect of the talks would be China.
How do we know that?
Of course they did. Were they just waiting for someone else to go first on something they decided on long before?
I know a few things about Germany.maybe you know the answer
you seem to know more than me
The same way that a nation's economy got kicked off, can potentially be the exact same way that removal of the catalyst leaves it helpless.we don't, but China is sitting on the side lines and observes the whole spectacle with lots of attention
I'm watching the news on BBC: the Russian government is "ready" to start "talks" with the Ukrainians in Minsk. I imagine the proposals: the Donbass and some other Russian-speaking territory (and obviously Crimea) would definitely become part of Russia...and the rest of the Ukrainian territory would be ruled by a "Vichy regime"...
I know a few things about Germany.
Other than that, you fill in the blanks.
we don't, but China is sitting on the side lines and observes the whole spectacle with lots of attention
I predict that Russia will go down. Russia is a made-up nation anyways since the murder of the family of the Czar.
fwiw they stopped Nord Stream 2
now it's up to the other countries to shut down Nord Stream 1
not that it will stop Putin to export that gas to China instead
84% of gas from Russia goes to Europe. . It't's 60% of the income of Russia.
I wonder if China could fill the gap when Europe is disconnected. Within two months winter is gone....
Nevertheless this is a longe time effect not an immediately on.
I just heard that Baerbock minister of foreign affair of Germany has mentioned that the SWIFT ban is still an option in the next round.
Northerner: The bottom line is in 2014, during Obama-Biden administration, Crimea was invaded by Putin. Nothing from the EU, Obama-Biden, nothing. Oil hit $100 dollars a barrel back then, just as it did the other day. No change in NATO allies moving away from dependency on Russian Oil and Gas. Business as usual. Trump is Trump, he praises all leaders because that is just how he does business. But it was Trump that put sanctions on Companies doing business with Putin to build NORD2 (which btw just went back on with Biden). And it was him stating that The EU (Germany in particular was the focus of his anger) was too dependent on Russian Oil and Gas and he pushed for the EU to start buying more From the USA. You think maybe that could have changed Putin's behavior. I think in the 1980's as part of détente between Reagan and Gorbachev, Europe was getting about 6% of its energy supplies from Russia. You know the number today is 40-50%. If after 2014, and during the Trump era if that number started say just dropping to 20%, you think Putin would have had Europe dependent on Russia for energy. And you chose to respond to the comment about Trump (you are consistent). You will not respond to my post #148 because it, despite what Trump does about saying someone is a tough leader, etc, etc (which he does for Erdogan, Kim, Xi, Putin), on his policies regarding EU and Europe's dependency on Russian Oil and Gas is one of the major reasons you have Putin meddling in European politics. He was 100% correct. I guess since Boris Johnson of the UK came out and basically confirmed what Trump said back at that NATO meeting when he ripped Merkel for being overly dependent on Putin and Russian Oil and Gas is not something you want to address. Is the UK now on some list of yours because they said to hell with the EU?
Regardless of your dislike of Trump, UK PM Boris Johnson is the first European leader that has clearly and unequivocally said NATO allied Countries and EU countries dependence on Putin and Russian Oil and Gas has to end. How hard is for you to realize this. What the EU countries did (NATO allies as well) allowed was for Putin to Weaponize Europe's Dependency on Russia for Oil and Gas and he thus was able to drive a wedge between different NATO countries. Even today as I write this, Germany is not willing to put on the sanctions that for example the UK is putting on. And from what I have gathered, it seems Italy sided with Germany and did not vote for the fullest extent of sanctions on Russia.
And lastly, I suspect these large deals Putin signed with China to supply them with more energy (lot of it Coal) was strategically done to mitigate any loss of revenues if the European Countries moved away from Russia once they attacked Ukraine (this was in the works for a while). Thus, China in my view is backing Russia on this invasion (gave them the go ahead and they will not vote to condemn China in the UN) because once Russia takes obtains their objectives and there is no serious move to cut Europe's dependency on Russian energy, thus no long term economic impact on Putin internally, China will likely move on Taiwan.
I know that's true but we have no overnight solutions. And also this sanction how high they are don't stop Putin in the next months. That is a reality too....How hard is for you to realize this
I have come to the same conclusion you did. Just follow the money and China's geopolitical objectives.
fwiw they stopped Nord Stream 2
now it's up to the other countries to shut down Nord Stream 1
not that it will stop Putin to export that gas to China instead
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