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I don't know Dugin.
But why do you associate Riverman with extreme right?
I stopped reading his comments several pages ago.
I told him his discussions are pointless and a waist of time for me.
It is brutal to witness I just hope those civilians that want nothing but peace are able to be treated ok if their territory is seized I can't imagine the trauma and guilt some of those young soldiers will feel when they wise up...it's pure horror...they are the ones that suffer.
What we hopefully can all agree with is that what happens to both soldiers and civilians in this war is just horrible and this is true for both sides, Russians and Ukraianians. This war should have never started and end as soon as posssible on the negotiations table. Ukraine just needs to give up officially on areas it didn't control since about 2014. The Ukrainian regime is just playing on time by slowing things down by transforming every major city into an urban battlefield, by sacrificing its cities, infrastructure and civilian casualties for gaining time. We have to ask for what do they need that time, and the answer is: They just want to provoke an incident which might bring NATO into this war and start World War III, because militarily, they can't win.
Some here said that the Russian military looks incompetent and shows bad morale. Sure, they are not perfect, but they have here a war and task which is much bigger than anything e.g. the US army had to do in the last decades. And whenever the US army was in similar scenario, despite its superiour numbers and means, they had losses and caused civlian collateral damage. Its not even possible to prevent that, because urban siege warfare will inevitably cause civilian casualties and the Ukrainian regime don't just knows that, but calculates with it, to provoke a Western intervention.
From a purely military standpoint, the Ukrainian army is still standing because of two plugs:
- The urban siege warfare in major Eastern cities, which binds large portions of the Russian elite units, especially Mariupol and Kharkiv
- The main Ukrainian battle groups barely holding off the Don republics and Russian forces at the Donbas front
That's why the Russians hit the Eastern cities in the siege so hard, they don't have time, they don't want to give the Ukrainians the time. As soon as especially Mariupol being conquered, even if just largely, and the main units of this siege being freed and the threat in the back eliminated, we will see this massive pincer movement in the East, which will cut off the main Ukrainian forces. Then the main Ukrainian battlegroups, including elite units and nationalist battalions will route and they can't flee from the combined force of the quickly advancing Russian tank groups, the airforce in the sky and the Donbas elite units in their back. They will be completely annihilated in the process.
The Ukrainian government therefore just uses up its time and people, for what?
Either 3rd World War or a soon coming complete Ukrainian defeat. The Russians don't need to change anything, they just need to keep up the morale they have now and what I see is a slow but methodically acting steamroller, the classic Russian strategy - they did the same in all wars since World War I.
What this also means is that the Ukrainian Selenski regime has about 1-3 weeks before this pincer movement closes, at best, because the first spearheads already securing the Dnieper river, despite all those huge elite forces being still bound to the sieges of Mariupol and Kharkiv etc. Mariupol and Kharkiv are the last straws the Ukrainians are holding and the Russians need to use their whole arsenal to eliminate that threat for their big advance.
I heard the Ukrainians take negotiations more seriously now, I just hope that's true, they just should have taken peace and diplomacy more serious before, then this war would have never happened. Nobody wanted that war. Putin was just willing to start it under the given circumstances, because he had absolutely no political and peaceful option left, to safe his most basic interests in Ukraine. The sanctions would have lasted, and Ukraine planned to attack Donbas, while joining NATO and becoming weaponised. People can say Ukraine had the right to do so, from a strictly juridical standpoint, which always favours US interests, because its their system, maybe, but what does it help? Are these pro-Russian territories worth this war, or even a 3rd World War? Is that anti-Russian weaponising of the Ukraine worth it? Don't think so.
They just need to sit down and end this mess as soon as possible on the negotiations table, before it spirals out of control or even if not, before hundreds of thousands more die and Ukraine being reduced to rubble.
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What happens to the minority if there's a 60/40 split or a 55/45? Do you expel the Ukrainian speakers?
I would argue that the Left has not been lost to the populist wing in the US it is desperately trying to stay center, it had moved center right in my opinion during the Clinton years and its slowly having to move more towards the left of the Civil Rights era. The Dems thwarted their populist choice, Sanders, twice, the RNC on the other hand was hoping for Jeb Bush to win the nomination in 2016 but Trump wrecked him and now they have to placate their empowered populist base whereas the Dems don't. Sadly I don't see any viable candidates on either side and if Trump is still in the run I think he still has a good chance of demolishing the competition on the right, the guy just has crazy Charisma with his base...I just worry we will enter a Trump dynasty he'll definitely keep it in the family...If both parties were smart they should agree to passing a bill to limit the age of those seeking the presidency to 75:embarassed:
Well on thinking a little both parties are being pulled, Ted Cruz and his crazy ilk with the Tea Party movement on the right and on the Left you have AOC and her squad. Either way the fact that both parties are losing out to their populist wings is a sign they screwed up...there I go ranting again sorry!
A massive attack by the Russian army destroyed the training ground with NATO instructors (VIDEO):
https://srbin.info/en/svet/masivan-napad-ruske-vojske-unistio-poligon-sa-instruktorima-nato-a-video/
We have only second hand clues (later we 'll know more). But I heard Ukrainans after their Russian period (not a good one, BTW) imposed their language as an unique choice, BEFORE they admitted Russian too. Not sure of my sources. ATW as a TRUE and practising leftist (and NOT a bolchevic, not a woke, not a "caviar pseudo-socialist") I'm for partnership rather than for by force constraints. Maybe here Ukrainians had better excuses than Russians had, knowing the Russia attraction for expansion allover History, but ATW it was a mistake. Mistake which doesn't excuse an invasion.
I defend (lost back fight?) minoritory languages inFrance, so I know what I'm speaking about.
But in Ukraina, the cultural aspect is nothing compared to the diverse mineral & food ressources and strategic strongholds offered by Ukraina.
It's the real Rasputin of the Kremlin now:
https://independentaustralia.net/po...st-who-helped-convinced-putin-to-invade,16145
I don't want to label Riverman. I only see that he uses the same type of reasoning as party's like the Forum voor democratie.
Nothing personal Riverman plays on the ball not on the man (ad hominem). That's the oxygen of a forum.....
or we're heading for a predictable catastrophy
Die Gr�nen will be happy:
https://www.livescience.com/12996-regional-nuclear-war-effects-global-cooling.html
The Russian military was not the only incompetent, so was the French military.
As I mentioned earlier in this thread, if the French hadn't retreated around Paris, Hitler would never have reached Dunkerque.
It is because the conquest of France went so smooth that Hitler felt strong enhough to conquer Russia.
Another anecdote is that Churchill requested the French navy to join the British before capitulation.
But the French refused and the French navy was about to fall in the hands of Hitler.
In the end Churchil had no other option than to bombard the French navy ..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_on_Mers-el-Kébir
Die Gr?nen will be happy:
https://www.livescience.com/12996-regional-nuclear-war-effects-global-cooling.html
Bernie Sanders honeymooned in Moscow when it was still the capitol of the Soviet Union. You should read some of his writings from that time. He himself was never connected to the actual planning of violence, but many of his friends were, all of it part of the history of the extreme left in this country. His "populist" base was formed of the idiotic young people indoctrinated on college campuses who are the activist base of the Democrat Party and have infiltrated the institutions of this country with their woke and gender bending ideology.
Fascism and Communism were always two sides of the same coin. Both are autocratic, and both deny people their basic human rights, most importantly the right to free speech. As I've said before, the only difference was whether the means of production were controlled by families or Board of Directors or faceless party hacks, the latter of which were almost always completely incompetent at their jobs. Hell, if in the latter half of the 20th century you still can't produce a decent car that should tell you all you need to know as to whether it's a good idea to put politicians in these kinds of positions.
Sorry, that was off topic, but I guess I needed a little rant of my own.
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