Politics Will Russia Attack Ukraine?

[Vallicanus]

Is that why we don't find any of your(L51+) ancestors in Kurgans(inequality); their freedom was oppressed in Russia? So they migrated West, and oppressed the natives ?

What are you talking about?:amazed:

 

[Silesian]

What are you talking about?:amazed:

Who has given you permission to use -speak express yourself and formulate your expression using the paternal inequality language of the Germans? Why are you commenting using German language about a region that you are not associated with?

 

[Vallicanus]

Who has given you permission to use -speak express yourself and formulate your expression using the paternal inequality language of the Germans? Why are you commenting using German language about a region that you are not associated with?

Perhaps you need to lie down in a darkened room and rest.

 

[Riverman]

You and I are squared Riverman we have differences of opinion I don't believe the war should have escalated outside the disputed territories, but I see that you want to resolve the conflict but there are others that seem to want the West to fall, I just think that is mad...bonkers

I refuse to be Red Pilled into believing this is all some orchestrated conflict by globalist lizard people banksters , but I do know the stupidity of man especially when large ego's are involved and it wouldn't surprise what this stupidity can lead to...we're just pawns in their chess game...

You did remind me of the movie Sarajevo if that sort of behavior is going on behind the scenes we're in trouble...

But if the line is drawn in the sand I got to side with Democratic West vs Autocratic East...

Biden is just an arrogant person which can't plan ahead. We saw it in the presidential campaign: He often came across speaking down on people, even in situations in which this was absolutely not appropriate. And he hates Russia and Putin. He actually did so in the past already, because his "communication" was a major factor for why Putin got alienated by the West. Whenever he met Putin, he provoked him and talked crap, and now he backed up, armed and weaponised Ukraine. You can search for their meeting and what Biden said, this guy is the absolutely wrong guy to deal with Putin, they just dislike each other and Biden thought he can do whatever he wants, the Russians can't do anything anyway. I was just appalled by the language and approach Biden used on practically every occasion when Biden met Putin. That was true long before the conflict escalating, when Putin still tried to get better treaties with the West and to adapt Russia somewhat to the Western demands, when he was ready to compromise on a fairly large scale. Biden is just no good diplomat, he never was, that much became clear if looking at this record. He didn't improve in the last years, that much is obvious as well.

The kind of things going on behind the scene, like before World War I, yes that happens, and Biden did first massively provoke, push Ukraine into war, threaten Russia, and thought he got away with it. Now he is in this situation, and even more than Putin, some might tempt him to escalate and we all know where this might lead towards. Because of this, especially in this field, I'm pretty sure with Trump this wouldn't have happened. Just like Hillary Clinton in her presidential campaign demanded a No-Fly zone in Syria to, in practise, make the Islamists win and risk direct war with Russia. Talking about these two cases, they are a major reason for why I was happy with Trump and would have been happier with Trump now, because he doesn't follow that Liberal Hegemony dogma, which starts wars all over the world and the blob now seems to target Russia directly. It actually did with Syria already, and people wonder why Russia was more in favour of Trump. What a joke.

Now Biden did this mess, by pushing and backing up Ukraine, giving them promises and supporting them with weaponry, while completely neglecting Putin and Russia's interests. Biden should now de-escalate, its about time, or he personally starts a Third World War. And all those which cry about a No-Fly zone: Biden and Selenski could have always make peace with Russia, there were just a couple of reasonable demands, and I predict you: Russia won't give up on Crimea in particular. For Crimea, that's their Danzig, they are ready to start World War Three for Crimea. Is this worth it? For reconquering and subjugating people which don't want to belong to Selenski's Ukraine, we should start the most destructive war mankind has ever seen and probably will ever have to see? Are they crazy, not right in their head, just plain stupid or what?
You need to give Russia at least something, they just pushed Russia and cornered it for 8 years now, and Biden just topped it with Selenski to the point they went all-in. How far do they need to push Russia from now on, for an unjust cause I have to say. For bringing NATO troops to Russias border and taking aways territories which by themselves, the people on the ground, want to belong to Russia. That stupidity should be the reason for World War Three? I'm speechless. That's the effect of this non-stop one sided CNN & Co phased propaganda and infantile emotionalising. Instead of talking about the facts and what is to do to really help the people and make peace, a real peace. This is not worth it, it never was. If you let two sides which are as ruthless as the Selenski regime and the Putin regime do what they want, they both are into this, it will go on to the very bloody end. If they can't reconciliate, so be it, then its their fault. Don't bring the world into this, because the more support the Selenski regime gets, the more unwilling it is to take negotiations seriously, because they think they can not just push back the Russian troops, but to reqonquer Donbas and probably Crimea too. But that is very dangerous by itself, because I think for Crimea in particular, that's the main issue, the Russians really would start a nuclear war and stop any advance with tactical nukes. That's insane to even try.

China is again threatening to conquer Taiwan.
And China warns against western interventions in the same wordings as Putin.
They see Putin gets away with this.
NATO shouldn't have hesitated to impose the no-fly zone.

If you are so eager to die, pick up a gun and go to the Ukraine to help them. Don't threaten my country, my family and mankinds future for this nonsense. Selenski and Biden escalated with Putin, if they get hit, its their fault, not that of other European countries, not of the world. But like always in such cases, others will get involved if this escalates to the next level and talking about the scenario which I want the least, this is it. So everybody who wants to risk his life is free to go to the Ukraine, to fight and die there for himself.

 

[Silesian]

Perhaps you need to lie down in a darkened room and rest.

I see, besides using a language that your ancestors had nothing to do with; and commenting on a conflict that does not concern you or your ancestors, you offer free advice.

 

[Riverman]

American journalists are just constantly so disrespectful to politicians they want to smear. This is an interview with Putin:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6pJd6O_NT0

He is very clear about what he wants, what he can offer, for people which can read between the lines. Peace could have been, a de-escalation was possible. But Selenski and Biden just pushed on and Selenski tries to hold the world in moral hostage for his failure and ruthless "no matter the costs policy" with Russia. That was him, he made the decision to get aggressive with the Russians, to purge the country from pro-Russians, to arrest personal close friends of Putin, censor the media, ban TV stations, persecute people which wanted peace with Russia, cutting off Crimea from the water supply and so on. He did this, like he prepared the Donbas offensive with American, with the Bidens administration support, while already shelling and attacking the region. Now they are in deep s**t, just like Russia is because of its overreaction, because of going too far with its invasion. They need to sort it out and the more Selenski believes he can draw othern nations into this conflict, the worse, because he will refuse serious negotiations talks, that's the only effect it has.

 

[Silesian]

^^^
Perhaps Putin /Chairman Xi Jinping need to be culturally enriched. New York offers art and literature. I know the Holodomor is a hot topic among Ukrainians.

https://www.nytco.com/company/prize...932-pulitzer-prize-awarded-to-walter-duranty/

Art is also very interesting, a comparison between artists past and present. Attorney General Garlands input on his knowledge about Hunter Biden art prices.

https://www.factcheck.org/2022/03/h...-company-in-2019-contrary-to-ted-nugent-post/

[h=1]Hunter Biden Left Ukrainian Company in 2019, Contrary to Ted Nugent Post[/h]

 

[Riverman]

^^^
Perhaps Putin /Chairman Xi Jinping need to be culturally enriched. New York offers art and literature. I know the Holodomor is a hot topic among Ukrainians.

https://www.nytco.com/company/prize...932-pulitzer-prize-awarded-to-walter-duranty/

Art is also very interesting, a comparison between artists past and present. Attorney General Garlands input on his knowledge about Hunter Biden art prices.

https://www.factcheck.org/2022/03/h...-company-in-2019-contrary-to-ted-nugent-post/

Hunter Biden Left Ukrainian Company in 2019, Contrary to Ted Nugent Post

The movie about the Holodomor was great, one of the rare good productions of the last years on historical topics.

And yes, the Bidens are personally involved in Ukraine, with the regional oligarchs, as well. They owe the Ukrainian Selenski regime that they blocked Trump, protected them from a wider scale investigation and of course, they have personal "financial ties" and interests. Biden's back up and pushing of the Selenski regime into a confrontational war course with Russia caused this war. Putin started the war, but these actions of the Selenski regime with the back up of the Biden administration caused it.

 

[EV13SON]

Sigh...we really need to bring back the fairness doctrine...

 

[Vallicanus]

I see, besides using a language that your ancestors had nothing to do with; and commenting on a conflict that does not concern you or your ancestors, you offer free advice.

I am entitled to my own opinion on a conflict that could result in a world war that will concern us all.

What language are you talking about?

Have you mixed me up with another poster on this thread.

 

[Vallicanus]

It seems that Silesian is another Putinist bot.

I don't know who is worse..Riverman who is long-winded, biased and boring or Silesian who talks in riddles.

 

[Vallicanus]

I'm R-Z36 and proud.

I have Steppe like millions of others but it is regrettable.

I mean descent from unwashed, uncultured, uncouth Steppe pastoralists...

 

[Silesian]

I am entitled to my own opinion on a conflict that could result in a world war that will concern us all.

What language are you talking about?

Have you mixed me up with another poster on this thread.

There are woman and children; innocent young men, dying for what a news story by cheezy media? Or so Azov battalion can play make believe Nazi war games? Or a corrupt actor/comedian can set up an offshore account with Oligarch contacts, and steal money from those very same victims? I almost get the feeling that some of these players want to destroy the already poor people and their culture, have you seen the inequality in Detroit?

A language of paternal origin, based on inequality, by way of tribes that are connected to Russia and Ukraine.

English is a West Germanic language of the Indo-European language family, originally spoken by the inhabitants of early medieval England.^[3][4][5] It is named after the Angles, one of the ancient Germanic peoples that migrated from Anglia, a peninsula on the Baltic Sea (not to be confused with East Anglia), to the area of Great Britain later named after them: England.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_language


My ancestors were in Ukraine 5000 years ago, long before there were any borders between Russia and Ukraine.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernosovskiy_idol

 

[Vallicanus]

You have not explained why I should not have an opinion when that sick old man Putin can reduce the whole world to flames.

Which language would you be kind enough to let me write in?

You realise that the prehistoric Steppe peoples were astonishingly backward pastoral people who relied on the Fertile Crescent for most of its higher culture?

You yourself are an ethnic mixture like all Europeans.

 

[Vallicanus]

Is that why we don't find any of your(L51+) ancestors in Kurgans(inequality); their freedom was oppressed in Russia? So they migrated West, and oppressed the natives ?

Now I understand this odd, rather irrelevant world view of yours.

Does your hero Putin and his ilk also "think" like this?

Egyptians were building astonishing pyramids and tombs while the Kurgans built...mounds.

Impressive

 

[EV13SON]

Alright so I see Silesian is all in on Team Autocrat, Riverman has a toe on the line but I think he's still on team west stay with us Riverman don't go to the darkside....

 

[Silesian]

You have not explained why I should not have an opinion when that sick old man Putin can reduce the whole world to flames.

What language do you think I should use?

Do they allow Putinist propaganda in Canada.

I used to live in a place in Canada where Japanese Canadians were put in internment camps and marginalized, even though they were hard working and had not done anything bad. Canada also has a track record of stealing land, and hanging people, who wanted to set up their own government.(BTW- off topic they are trying to replace Canadian history, statues, renaming, etc....)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_River_Rebellion

Do you have any idea, the mentality of Putin(Russia was invaded before, French, Poles, Swedes, German, Mongols)? The carnage the German Nazis inflicted upon Russia? Marginalizing them like subhumans? In my opinion it looks like he was trolled, trapped into this. Germany should have taken the lead in taking actions to mend the deep wounds inflicted in WWII. By including Russia in G8 and raising the living standard of Ukrainians and Russians together; and not trying to steal their resources, replace their governments with western puppets and eventually go against China. IMO instead of spending so much money on non European immigrant free handouts, the EU should have been there help to improve the living standards of Russia and Ukraine.

 

[Vallicanus]

I used to live in a place in Canada where Japanese Canadians were put in internment camps and marginalized, even though they were hard working and had not done anything bad. Canada also has a track record of stealing land, and hanging people, who wanted to set up their own government.(BTW- off topic they are trying to replace Canadian history, statues, renaming, etc....)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_River_Rebellion

Do you have any idea, the mentality of Putin(Russia was invaded before, French, Poles, Swedes, German, Mongols)? The carnage the German Nazis inflicted upon Russia? Marginalizing them like subhumans? In my opinion it looks like he was trolled, trapped into this. Germany should have taken the lead in taking actions to mend the deep wounds inflicted in WWII. By including Russia in G8 and raising the living standard of Ukrainians and Russians together; and not trying to steal their resources, replace their governments with western puppets and eventually go against China. IMO instead of spending so much money on non European immigrant free handouts, the EU should have been there help to improve the living standards of Russia and Ukraine.

What has this to do with Kurgans, Minneapolis and what language I should be allowed to use, pray tell?

 

[Vallicanus]

Alright so I see Silesian is all in on Team Autocrat, Riverman has a toe on the line but I think he's still on team west stay with us Riverman don't go to the darkside....

They have both gone "full tonto".

 

[EV13SON]

Again all nations have committed Atrocities even the Russians are guilty on their treatment of the Siberian reindeer tribes people so no one is without fault, the point is we as citizens need to be better informed become more compassionate and demand the same from our leaders...