World 6th Century BC by Tomenable (Piotr Kapuscinski)

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Instructions say for best results to reduce to 5 populations and ADC 0.25. Also no aggregate.
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Mine:

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Mine (IMO: perhaps an oracle a little too calibrated on northern/continental Europe)

Distance to:G25_Stuvanè_scaled
0.03204919Europe_Southeast:Dacians
0.03441833Europe_South_Central:Western_Illyrians
0.04901023Europe_West_Central:Noricum_Celts
0.05264962Europe_South_Central:Roman_Kingdom_urban
0.05376991Europe_South_Central:Etruria_Etruscans
0.05377544Europe_South_Central:Roman_Kingdom_rural
0.05675157Europe_South_Central:Latin_League
0.05784795Europe_Southeast:Thracians
0.05928176Europe_Southwest:Carthage_Empire_Western
0.06006327Europe_West_Central:Raetians_Vennones
0.07007219Europe_South_Central:Sicily_Sikanoi
0.07042184Europe_Southwest:Ligurians_Salluvii
0.07416365Europe_Southeast:Archaic_Greeks
0.07510813Europe_Southwest:Carthage_Empire_Ebusus
0.07769731Europe_Southwest:Celtiberians
0.07804912Europe_Southeast:Bosporus_Greeks
0.07852428Europe_West_Central:Continental_Gaulish
0.08058248Europe_Southwest:Iberes_Northern
0.08504648Europe_Southwest:Cantabri_Confederacy
0.08523876Europe_Southwest:Baleares_Talaiotic
0.08618161Europe_Southwest:Iberes_Central
0.08925755Europe_Southwest:Tartessos_Turdetani
0.09357882Europe_Northwest:Armoricans
0.09776716Europe_Southwest:Lusotannan_Lusitani
0.09784829Europe_Northwest:Brittonic_EnglandS



Target: G25_Stuvanè_scaled
Distance: 0.0191% / 0.01905869 | R5P | ADC: 0.25x RC
49.0Europe_South_Central
22.0Europe_Northwest
12.9MENA_Judah_Kingdom
11.2Europe_East_Central
4.9Caucasus_Colchis_Kingdom

Distance to:G25_Stuvanè_scaled
0.0242915074.60% Europe_West_Central:Noricum_Celts + 25.40% MENA_Cilicia_Kingdom
0.0242987875.20% Europe_West_Central:Noricum_Celts + 24.80% MENA_Urartu_Kingdom_Urumu
0.0247769375.80% Europe_West_Central:Noricum_Celts + 24.20% MENA_Luwian_Aramean_States
0.0248329876.00% Europe_West_Central:Noricum_Celts + 24.00% MENA_Judah_Kingdom
0.0260717371.20% Europe_West_Central:Noricum_Celts + 28.80% MENA_Lydia_Kingdom
0.0269422537.80% Europe_Northwest:North_Germanic + 62.20% Europe_Southeast:Archaic_Greeks
0.0271712075.60% Europe_West_Central:Noricum_Celts + 24.40% MENA_Phoenician_States
0.0277571741.00% Europe_Northwest:Caledonian_Scotland + 59.00% Europe_Southeast:Archaic_Greeks
0.0278478386.80% Europe_South_Central:Western_Illyrians + 13.20% MENA_Judah_Kingdom
0.0280283372.20% Europe_Southeast:Dacians + 27.80% Europe_West_Central:Noricum_Celts
0.0288736378.00% Europe_West_Central:Noricum_Celts + 22.00% MENA_Ammon_Kingdom
0.0291533478.60% Europe_West_Central:Noricum_Celts + 21.40% MENA_Philistine_Pentapolis
0.0291751277.20% Europe_West_Central:Noricum_Celts + 22.80% MENA_Israel_Kingdom
0.0291945741.40% Europe_Northwest:Brittonic_WalesS2_I16405 + 58.60% Europe_Southeast:Archaic_Greeks
0.0292254542.00% Europe_South_Central:Western_Illyrians + 58.00% Europe_Southeast:Dacians
0.0292551040.80% Europe_Northwest:Brittonic_EnglandN + 59.20% Europe_Southeast:Archaic_Greeks
0.0293562239.60% Europe_Northwest:West_Germanic + 60.40% Europe_Southeast:Archaic_Greeks
0.0294747459.80% Europe_South_Central:Latin_League + 40.20% Europe_Southeast:Bosporus_Greeks
0.0294790087.40% Europe_South_Central:Western_Illyrians + 12.60% MENA_Cilicia_Kingdom
0.0295981888.20% Europe_South_Central:Western_Illyrians + 11.80% MENA_Luwian_Aramean_States
0.0297346780.60% Europe_South_Central:Western_Illyrians + 19.40% Europe_Southeast:Bosporus_Greeks
0.0297362685.80% Europe_Southeast:Dacians + 14.20% Europe_Southwest:Celtiberians
0.0297588210.80% Europe_Northwest:Caledonian_Scotland + 89.20% Europe_Southeast:Dacians
0.0298149188.20% Europe_South_Central:Western_Illyrians + 11.80% MENA_Urartu_Kingdom_Urumu
0.0298485236.40% Europe_Southeast:Archaic_Greeks + 63.60% Europe_West_Central:Noricum_Celts
 
Stuvanè said:
Mine (IMO: perhaps an oracle a little too calibrated on northern/continental Europe)

Distance to:G25_Stuvanè_scaled
0.03204919Europe_Southeast:Dacians
0.03441833Europe_South_Central:Western_Illyrians
0.04901023Europe_West_Central:Noricum_Celts
0.05264962Europe_South_Central:Roman_Kingdom_urban
0.05376991Europe_South_Central:Etruria_Etruscans
0.05377544Europe_South_Central:Roman_Kingdom_rural
0.05675157Europe_South_Central:Latin_League
0.05784795Europe_Southeast:Thracians
0.05928176Europe_Southwest:Carthage_Empire_Western
0.06006327Europe_West_Central:Raetians_Vennones
0.07007219Europe_South_Central:Sicily_Sikanoi
0.07042184Europe_Southwest:Ligurians_Salluvii
0.07416365Europe_Southeast:Archaic_Greeks
0.07510813Europe_Southwest:Carthage_Empire_Ebusus
0.07769731Europe_Southwest:Celtiberians
0.07804912Europe_Southeast:Bosporus_Greeks
0.07852428Europe_West_Central:Continental_Gaulish
0.08058248Europe_Southwest:Iberes_Northern
0.08504648Europe_Southwest:Cantabri_Confederacy
0.08523876Europe_Southwest:Baleares_Talaiotic
0.08618161Europe_Southwest:Iberes_Central
0.08925755Europe_Southwest:Tartessos_Turdetani
0.09357882Europe_Northwest:Armoricans
0.09776716Europe_Southwest:Lusotannan_Lusitani
0.09784829Europe_Northwest:Brittonic_EnglandS



Target: G25_Stuvanè_scaled
Distance: 0.0191% / 0.01905869 | R5P | ADC: 0.25x RC
49.0Europe_South_Central
22.0Europe_Northwest
12.9MENA_Judah_Kingdom
11.2Europe_East_Central
4.9Caucasus_Colchis_Kingdom

Distance to:G25_Stuvanè_scaled
0.0242915074.60% Europe_West_Central:Noricum_Celts + 25.40% MENA_Cilicia_Kingdom
0.0242987875.20% Europe_West_Central:Noricum_Celts + 24.80% MENA_Urartu_Kingdom_Urumu
0.0247769375.80% Europe_West_Central:Noricum_Celts + 24.20% MENA_Luwian_Aramean_States
0.0248329876.00% Europe_West_Central:Noricum_Celts + 24.00% MENA_Judah_Kingdom
0.0260717371.20% Europe_West_Central:Noricum_Celts + 28.80% MENA_Lydia_Kingdom
0.0269422537.80% Europe_Northwest:North_Germanic + 62.20% Europe_Southeast:Archaic_Greeks
0.0271712075.60% Europe_West_Central:Noricum_Celts + 24.40% MENA_Phoenician_States
0.0277571741.00% Europe_Northwest:Caledonian_Scotland + 59.00% Europe_Southeast:Archaic_Greeks
0.0278478386.80% Europe_South_Central:Western_Illyrians + 13.20% MENA_Judah_Kingdom
0.0280283372.20% Europe_Southeast:Dacians + 27.80% Europe_West_Central:Noricum_Celts
0.0288736378.00% Europe_West_Central:Noricum_Celts + 22.00% MENA_Ammon_Kingdom
0.0291533478.60% Europe_West_Central:Noricum_Celts + 21.40% MENA_Philistine_Pentapolis
0.0291751277.20% Europe_West_Central:Noricum_Celts + 22.80% MENA_Israel_Kingdom
0.0291945741.40% Europe_Northwest:Brittonic_WalesS2_I16405 + 58.60% Europe_Southeast:Archaic_Greeks
0.0292254542.00% Europe_South_Central:Western_Illyrians + 58.00% Europe_Southeast:Dacians
0.0292551040.80% Europe_Northwest:Brittonic_EnglandN + 59.20% Europe_Southeast:Archaic_Greeks
0.0293562239.60% Europe_Northwest:West_Germanic + 60.40% Europe_Southeast:Archaic_Greeks
0.0294747459.80% Europe_South_Central:Latin_League + 40.20% Europe_Southeast:Bosporus_Greeks
0.0294790087.40% Europe_South_Central:Western_Illyrians + 12.60% MENA_Cilicia_Kingdom
0.0295981888.20% Europe_South_Central:Western_Illyrians + 11.80% MENA_Luwian_Aramean_States
0.0297346780.60% Europe_South_Central:Western_Illyrians + 19.40% Europe_Southeast:Bosporus_Greeks
0.0297362685.80% Europe_Southeast:Dacians + 14.20% Europe_Southwest:Celtiberians
0.0297588210.80% Europe_Northwest:Caledonian_Scotland + 89.20% Europe_Southeast:Dacians
0.0298149188.20% Europe_South_Central:Western_Illyrians + 11.80% MENA_Urartu_Kingdom_Urumu
0.0298485236.40% Europe_Southeast:Archaic_Greeks + 63.60% Europe_West_Central:Noricum_Celts
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Be sure to turn the aggregate off which is one of the right buttons where you can set the ADC
 
qh777 said:
Be sure to turn the aggregate off which is one of the right buttons where you can set the ADC
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Aggregate off


Target: G25_Stuvanè_scaled
Distance: 0.0191% / 0.01905869 | R5P | ADC: 0.25x RC
37.3Europe_South_Central:Sicily_Sikanoi
22.0Europe_Northwest:Caledonian_Scotland
12.9MENA_Judah_Kingdom
11.7Europe_South_Central:Western_Illyrians
11.2Europe_East_Central:Balto_Slavic
4.9Caucasus_Colchis_Kingdom
 
Stuvanè said:
Aggregate off


Target: G25_Stuvanè_scaled
Distance: 0.0191% / 0.01905869 | R5P | ADC: 0.25x RC
37.3Europe_South_Central:Sicily_Sikanoi
22.0Europe_Northwest:Caledonian_Scotland
12.9MENA_Judah_Kingdom
11.7Europe_South_Central:Western_Illyrians
11.2Europe_East_Central:Balto_Slavic
4.9Caucasus_Colchis_Kingdom
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Caledonian? That’s unexpected.
 
Distance to: Veritus_scaled
0.03075027 Europe_South_Central:Western_Illyrians
0.03191518 Europe_West_Central:Noricum_Celts
0.04007795 Europe_Southeast:Dacians
0.05031703 Europe_West_Central:Raetians_Vennones
0.05048624 Europe_South_Central:Latin_League
0.05065735 Europe_South_Central:Etruria_Etruscans
0.05334966 Europe_South_Central:Roman_Kingdom_rural
0.05482089 Europe_Southwest:Ligurians_Salluvii
0.05826124 Europe_West_Central:Continental_Gaulish
0.06264363 Europe_Southwest:Celtiberians
0.06766820 Europe_South_Central:Roman_Kingdom_urban
0.07145475 Europe_Southeast:Thracians
0.07416896 Europe_Southwest:Iberes_Northern
0.07500418 Europe_Southwest:Cantabri_Confederacy
0.07535078 Europe_Southwest:Carthage_Empire_Western
0.07599039 Europe_Northwest:Armoricans
0.07623465 Europe_Southwest:Iberes_Central
0.07693240 Europe_Southwest:Baleares_Talaiotic
0.07723303 Europe_Northwest:Brittonic_EnglandS
0.07984396 Europe_Northwest:Brittonic_WalesS2_I16405
0.08212450 Europe_Northwest:Caledonian_Scotland
0.08236461 Europe_Northwest:Brittonic_Cornwall
0.08304070 Europe_Northwest:Brittonic_EnglandN
0.08383222 Europe_Southwest:Carthage_Empire_Ebusus
0.08606336 Europe_South_Central:Sicily_Sikanoi
 
Target: Veritus_scaled
Distance: 1.7361% / 0.01736068
44.2 Europe_South_Central
26.6 Europe_Northwest
13.8 Europe_East_Central
10.8 MENA_Judah_Kingdom
4.6 Europe_Southeast
 
my father results below

Distance to: Ponsan_G25_scaled
0.02948990 Europe_West_Central:Noricum_Celts
0.03583544 Europe_South_Central:Western_Illyrians
0.04343415 Europe_West_Central:Raetians_Vennones
0.04488064 Europe_South_Central:Etruria_Etruscans
0.04841831 Europe_South_Central:Latin_League
0.05055212 Europe_Southwest:Ligurians_Salluvii
0.05091343 Europe_South_Central:Roman_Kingdom_rural
0.05138490 Europe_Southeast:Dacians
0.05304904 Europe_West_Central:Continental_Gaulish
0.05895503 Europe_Southwest:Celtiberians
0.06396548 Europe_South_Central:Roman_Kingdom_urban
0.06598416 Europe_Southwest:Iberes_Northern
0.06693478 Europe_Northwest:Armoricans
0.06836920 Europe_Southwest:Iberes_Central
0.06879664 Europe_Southwest:Baleares_Talaiotic
0.07075345 Europe_Southwest:Cantabri_Confederacy
0.07199481 Europe_Southeast:Thracians
0.07304164 Europe_Northwest:Brittonic_EnglandS
0.07663748 Europe_Northwest:Brittonic_WalesS2_I16405
0.07741228 Europe_Northwest:Brittonic_Cornwall
0.07872296 Europe_Southwest:Carthage_Empire_Western
0.07884363 Europe_Southwest:Lusotannan_Lusitani
0.08139889 Europe_Southwest:Tartessos_Turdetani
0.08180388 Europe_Northwest:Caledonian_Scotland
0.08230692 Europe_Northwest:Brittonic_EnglandN
 
Distance to:Dorquest_scaled
0.03500160Europe_Northwest:Caledonian_Scotland
0.03630006Europe_Northwest:Brittonic_EnglandN
0.03731861Europe_Northwest:Brittonic_EnglandS
0.03784236Europe_West_Central:Continental_Gaulish
0.03798797Europe_Northwest:West_Germanic
0.03992500Europe_Northwest:Brittonic_Cornwall
0.04160824Europe_Northwest:Brittonic_Scotland
0.04291383Europe_Northwest:North_Germanic
0.04388373Europe_Northwest:Brittonic_WalesS2_I16405
0.04836065Europe_Northwest:Armoricans
0.05445808Europe_Northwest:Hibernian_Scotii
0.05612592Europe_West_Central:Noricum_Celts
0.05773076Europe_Northwest:Brittonic_WalesS1_I16488
0.05828544Europe_Southwest:Ligurians_Salluvii
0.05892104Europe_Northwest:Brittonic_WalesN1_I16475
0.06344638Europe_Southwest:Celtiberians
0.06839961Europe_Northwest:Brittonic_WalesN2_VK171
0.07594109Europe_West_Central:Raetians_Vennones
0.08111099Europe_South_Central:Western_Illyrians
0.08424646Europe_East_Central:Balto_Slavic
0.08672313Europe_Southwest:Cantabri_Confederacy
0.08758265Europe_South_Central:Latin_League
0.08946108Europe_Southwest:Iberes_Central
0.09003410Europe_South_Central:Etruria_Etruscans
0.09375940Europe_South_Central:Roman_Kingdom_rural


Target: Dorquest scaled
Distance: 2.5967% / 0.02596746 | R5P | ADC: 0.25x RC
42.2Europe_Northwest:North_Germanic
29.6Europe_West_Central:Noricum_Celts
23.8Europe_Northwest:Caledonian_Scotland
4.4Europe_Southeast:Bosporus_Greeks
 
torzio said:
Target: Veritus_scaled
Distance: 1.7361% / 0.01736068
44.2 Europe_South_Central
26.6 Europe_Northwest
13.8 Europe_East_Central
10.8 MENA_Judah_Kingdom
4.6 Europe_Southeast
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Be sure to turn aggregate off, reduce to 5 pops, and ADC 0.25
 
qh777 said:
Caledonian? That’s unexpected.
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That's why I wrote yesterday that it seems to me to be more suitable for testing the autosomal of northern and continental Europeans. But - at least as far as I am concerned - I'd say it works much less for southern Europeans.
Of the five peoples that fall into the combo, at least three - by the way, with such high percentages - I would say have little or nothing to do with my part of the world, and the whole thing becomes a statistical joke. Dragging in Caledonians, and then counterbalancing them with the Ancient Israelites of the Kingdom of Judah - so as to 'reconstruct' the genetic average of an 'Italic' - falls into historical nonsense
 
Stuvanè said:
That's why I wrote yesterday that it seems to me to be more suitable for testing the autosomal of northern and continental Europeans. But - at least as far as I am concerned - I'd say it works much less for southern Europeans.
Of the five peoples that fall into the combo, at least three - by the way, with such high percentages - I would say have little or nothing to do with my part of the world, and the whole thing becomes a statistical joke. Dragging in Caledonians, and then counterbalancing them with the Ancient Israelites of the Kingdom of Judah - so as to 'reconstruct' the genetic average of an 'Italic' - falls into historical nonsense
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I understand what you're saying. It makes sense for me for the most part. It doesn't assign any Germanic though. I think what the calculator does is look at what your Anatolia N, CHG, WHG, Steppe, Iran N, and Natufian is and assign populations within the list that add up to what your Neolithic and EBA Yamnaya admix is. At least that's what appears to be going on. It's probably not at all what it's doing.
 
results from question in post #10

Target: Veritus_scaled
Distance: 1.7514% / 0.01751405 | R5P | ADC: 0.25x RC
26.8 Europe_Northwest:Caledonian_Scotland
26.4 Europe_South_Central:Western_Illyrians
23.0 Europe_South_Central:Sicily_Sikanoi
14.2 Europe_East_Central:Balto_Slavic
9.6 MENA_Judah_Kingdom
 
my father results

Target: Ponsan_G25_scaled
Distance: 2.0396% / 0.02039636 | R5P | ADC: 0.25x RC
56.4 Europe_West_Central:Noricum_Celts
18.2 Europe_South_Central:Western_Illyrians
7.6 MENA_Judah_Kingdom
7.2 Europe_Northwest:Armoricans
5.8 Europe_East_Central:Balto_Slavic
4.8 Europe_Northwest:Hibernian_Scotii
 
I expected some swedish admixture as half my MtDna matches come from Sweden ( Scania and Gotland ) and other half Alpine Italy
 
torzio said:
I expected some swedish admixture as half my MtDna matches come from Sweden ( Scania and Gotland ) and other half Alpine Italy
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I agree with Stuvane that this calculator doesn’t necessarily produce the best results for southern Europeans
 
@italouruguayan

you are typical, second wave of migration into NE Italy ( after 1st wave of ostogoths and lombards ) as people belonging to the Avar confederation
 
torzio said:
@italouruguayan

you are typical, second wave of migration into NE Italy ( after 1st wave of ostogoths and lombards ) as people belonging to the Avar confederation
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Will it really be like this? Or could it be that my Amerindian mixture, with its remote kinship with Asian populations, caused a certain deviation towards the East?
 
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