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- Y-DNA haplogroup
- R1b-L617
- mtDNA haplogroup
- W6a
Haplogroup C1a appears in ancient DNA from Upper Paleolithic, Mesolithic and Neolithic Europe.
After that it was marginalized but it has not disappeared entirely, some people carrying it can still be found in Europe.
"C Haplogroup Y-DNA" Project on Family Tree DNA includes the following samples from Europe (broken down by regions):
C1a2 (as we know from ancient DNA, this is the "Old European" subclade of C) - in total 15 samples:
C1a2-V20:
Ireland - 2
Upper Lusatia (Leipzig) - 1
C1a2a-V222:
Scotland - 1
Ireland - 1
England - 1
Calabria - 1
Subcarpathia (Komarnyky, near Lviv) - 1
Ithaca Island - 1
Hungary - 1
Ulster - 2
C1a2a2-Z29329:
Subcarpathia (Stare Miasto, near Rzeszów) - 1
Valencian Country (Soneja) - 1
Aragon - 1
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But this Y-DNA Project has also other subclades, which have not yet been found in ancient DNA.
In particular C2b1a1b looks like it could also be present in Europe for a long time (what do you think?):
C2b1-F1699:
Rhineland - 1
Thuringia - 1
Upper Spiš (Slovenská Ves) - 1
C2b1a1b-F3985:
Vorarlberg - 1
Českobudějovická Pánev - 1
Mazovia - 2
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As well as:
C2e-Z1338 (East Asian?):
Ireland - 1
C2b1c-F4002 (Mongolian?):
Russia (Sudzha, Kursk Oblast) - 1
Ukraine (Poltava) - 1
Bukovina (Rădăuţi) - 1
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And samples of C in case of which exact subclade has not yet been tested:
Cornwall - 1
Rhineland - 1
Sicily - 1
Campania - 1
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Also in: "Y chromosome polymorphisms and haplotypes in South Saxony-Anhalt (Germany)":
http://www.fsijournal.org/article/S0379-0738(05)00021-6/pdf
Authors found 1 sample (frequency 0.43%) of C among 234 Germans from Halle an der Saale.
This sample is not included in the list of FTDNA samples posted above.
After that it was marginalized but it has not disappeared entirely, some people carrying it can still be found in Europe.
"C Haplogroup Y-DNA" Project on Family Tree DNA includes the following samples from Europe (broken down by regions):
C1a2 (as we know from ancient DNA, this is the "Old European" subclade of C) - in total 15 samples:
C1a2-V20:
Ireland - 2
Upper Lusatia (Leipzig) - 1
C1a2a-V222:
Scotland - 1
Ireland - 1
England - 1
Calabria - 1
Subcarpathia (Komarnyky, near Lviv) - 1
Ithaca Island - 1
Hungary - 1
Ulster - 2
C1a2a2-Z29329:
Subcarpathia (Stare Miasto, near Rzeszów) - 1
Valencian Country (Soneja) - 1
Aragon - 1
==============================
But this Y-DNA Project has also other subclades, which have not yet been found in ancient DNA.
In particular C2b1a1b looks like it could also be present in Europe for a long time (what do you think?):
C2b1-F1699:
Rhineland - 1
Thuringia - 1
Upper Spiš (Slovenská Ves) - 1
C2b1a1b-F3985:
Vorarlberg - 1
Českobudějovická Pánev - 1
Mazovia - 2
===========================
As well as:
C2e-Z1338 (East Asian?):
Ireland - 1
C2b1c-F4002 (Mongolian?):
Russia (Sudzha, Kursk Oblast) - 1
Ukraine (Poltava) - 1
Bukovina (Rădăuţi) - 1
===========================
And samples of C in case of which exact subclade has not yet been tested:
Cornwall - 1
Rhineland - 1
Sicily - 1
Campania - 1
===========================
Also in: "Y chromosome polymorphisms and haplotypes in South Saxony-Anhalt (Germany)":
http://www.fsijournal.org/article/S0379-0738(05)00021-6/pdf
Authors found 1 sample (frequency 0.43%) of C among 234 Germans from Halle an der Saale.
This sample is not included in the list of FTDNA samples posted above.