Y-DNA haplogroups of Scottish clans

[Mmiikkii]

3 of them are I2, likely surviving and adapting since Prehistory.
There are 2 R-P312, ancestral to Gaelic, Gaulish and Iberian, so likely from the early Bronze Ages.

Then, there are like 8 that may have come from the Romans. 4 Spanish DF27, 1 Italic U152, 1 E-V13, 1 J1, 1J2.

10 L21 that may have formed in the Iron Ages in Ireland and migrated in the Early Medieval period during the Scotts invasion.
And finally 9 from the Anglo-Saxon/Norman invasions. 4 R1a, 2 I1 and 3 English U-106.

 

[Albruic]

All in all majority of them are R1b

I only get "R1b-L151" in all places i try testing my Ydna and that sucks cause its so broad and you can't tell much from just that..

 

[Papayaseeds]

How did the Graham's end up with the Cohen modal haplo? Phoenicians?

 

[Papayaseeds]

Clan boyd
Probably A3b2 +v243
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clan_Boyd
https://www.familytreedna.com/public/boyddnanet?iframe=yresults

How is that?Neolithic lucky survivor?

 

[Mmiikkii]

How did the Graham's end up with the Cohen modal haplo? Phoenicians?

https://www.yfull.com/tree/J-FGC58460/

Not really Cohanim. It's an haplogroup formed like 2300 years ago with a common ancestor in the year 1000 AD.
Ans it's shared with people in the Persian gulf. So it must follow some trade route.
But I think they must be Romans.

 

[SMJ-GB]

The Roman in York you are looking for is known a 3DRIF-26 and is J2-L228.

The publication can be found if you search 'Genomic Signals of Migration and Continuity in Britain before the Anglo Saxons' published 9 Jan 2016 and is available on the Nature Communications website (sorry my lowly status prohibits me from embedding a URL).

Unfortunately, the paper considered this guy an an outlier in the data as the study was looking at known British DNA and not studied further.

As someone who is J2-L26 and was born about 1 mile from the Roman city of Viroconium Cornoviorum (Wroxeter in Shropshire, England) I can't help wondering if more undiscovered J2 DNA was left behind in Britain after the Roman withdrawal.

SMJ

 

[Mikedhamilton]

In the last few days I have worked on finding the haplogroups of the clan chiefs of Scottish clans. Almost all of them have extensive surname DNA projects, so it was easy in most cases. The list includes most of the peerage of Scotland from Viscount to Duke. Highland clans belonging to R1b-L21 generally do not have aristocratic titles (with the notable exception of the Campbell and Drummond chiefs).

You will notice that Clan Douglas is absent. This is because of conflicting data. Only one member reported to descend from the Douglas-Hamilton (Dukes of Hamilton), but his haplogroup is I2a1a-L1193. However Clan Douglas supposedly descend from the same ancestor as clans Murray and Sutherland, which would mean R1b-DF27>BY67446, and indeed many Douglas do. This either means that the I2a1a participant is not who is says he is, or a non-paternity event happened somewhere. As we have no idea of where, I did not list the Douglas chiefs for the time being.

And there are some who state that the Hamiltons are Douglases.

 

[Mikedhamilton]

In the last few days I have worked on finding the haplogroups of the clan chiefs of Scottish clans. Almost all of them have extensive surname DNA projects, so it was easy in most cases. The list includes most of the peerage of Scotland from Viscount to Duke. Highland clans belonging to R1b-L21 generally do not have aristocratic titles (with the notable exception of the Campbell and Drummond chiefs).

You will notice that Clan Douglas is absent. This is because of conflicting data. Only one member reported to descend from the Douglas-Hamilton (Dukes of Hamilton), but his haplogroup is I2a1a-L1193. However Clan Douglas supposedly descend from the same ancestor as clans Murray and Sutherland, which would mean R1b-DF27>BY67446, and indeed many Douglas do. This either means that the I2a1a participant is not who is says he is, or a non-paternity event happened somewhere. As we have no idea of where, I did not list the Douglas chiefs for the time being.

The Hamilton Clan is R1b. The information on familytreedna is wrong partially due to an incorrect pretense of deciding that Alexander Hamilton had a father who was a Hamilton. His father was possibly a Douglas-Hamilton. Easy to get confused.

 

[I1a3_Young]

There are tons of Hamilton men in the Z63 Hamilton group which have nothing to do with Alexander Hamilton.

 

[crzypopmac]

In the last few days I have worked on finding the haplogroups of the clan chiefs of Scottish clans. Almost all of them have extensive surname DNA projects, so it was easy in most cases. The list includes most of the peerage of Scotland from Viscount to Duke. Highland clans belonging to R1b-L21 generally do not have aristocratic titles (with the notable exception of the Campbell and Drummond chiefs).

You will notice that Clan Douglas is absent. This is because of conflicting data. Only one member reported to descend from the Douglas-Hamilton (Dukes of Hamilton), but his haplogroup is I2a1a-L1193. However Clan Douglas supposedly descend from the same ancestor as clans Murray and Sutherland, which would mean R1b-DF27>BY67446, and indeed many Douglas do. This either means that the I2a1a participant is not who is says he is, or a non-paternity event happened somewhere. As we have no idea of where, I did not list the Douglas chiefs for the time being.

In the past 4 years since this, I wonder if anyone has noticed that several of these clans mentioned have R-S744 in common, i.e. a shared common ancestor at 400-500AD, MAC

 

[kingdavid]

Actually the Boyd DNA Project found that the noble Boyd line (Earls of Kilmarnock) belongs to R1b-U106>U198. There is indeed a large number of A3b2 among the Boyds, but their origins is unclear (no data before the late 1600's).

it is fascinating that they have a Neolithic common ancestor with a Moroccan sample
maybe a moor stationed in auxiliary roman unit in Scotland who forgot his way
home
later some of his descendants joined the r1b-u106 original boyd clan

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