lets see the Greek in ancient how will be
MEGO DONASTO RETIAI
EGO EDOKA TΙ REITIA
ΕΓΩ ΕΔΩΚΑ τηι Ρεiτιa ορ ΕΓΩ ΕΔΩΚΑ REITΙΗι (ι is underline Dotiki)
virb Dino Διδ-ω ->Δινω = give in past e-dosa Εδωσα
the funny is that Reitia-
ι takes a ι, υπογεγραμμενη Underlined ι, which is only in giving in Greek,
and today in modern is suspended
so Veneti follow part of Greek Grammar?
where has its roots?
I mean in English is give
in German is geben
in Italian is Dare
in Albanian is jap
in Serbian is дати Dati
in Bulgarian is дава Daba
in Catalunia is Donar
seems like clear IE to me the Greco-Roman but is it a proof or an evidence
Now about 100 men
how many where sea people?
how many R1a or R1b in Greece that is not later romano-celtic - latin speaking,
much of R1b is western brought by Romans, and parts of R1a could be medieval slavic or Turkish.
how many R1a in south Balkans?
yet Greeks speak IE and south slavic are connected with Baltic (although I don't agree)
how many Greeks travel with ships to establsh a colony????? (millions?)
it is estimated that many Greek colonies were established by less than 2000 men
Sinope was a small city-colony, but create Trebizond Empire
Besides Etruscans means same with troy Troia, Tyris-intha (o+y = u in Greek)
En-troy-cani ->Etroycanoi ->etrucans
means Trojer people ->tower building people, city walls people, castle people
I read a book about Delphi oracles, 14 ships estimation of about 50 population was to build Phasis in Georgia
yes only 700 people, later much more came,
how many ships had Colombus the 6th fleet? or the spanish armada?
Now about Albanians I have wrote many posts
1rst Illyria and Illyricum
for ancient Greeks Illyria is the area that later known as Illyria proprie Dicti
Pliny (23–79 AD) writes that the people that formed the nucleus of the Illyrian kingdom were 'Illyrians proper' or
Illyrii Proprie Dicti.
[17] They were the
Taulantii, the
Pleraei, the
Endirudini,
Sasaei,
Grabaei and the
Labeatae. These later joined to form the
Docleatae.
The roman province of Illyricum
As you see it is not the same
about language connections of ancient Illyria
to understand that we must understand the Pelasgians,
Pelasgians were Around Aegean and cyprus, probably Anatolian or Levant,
Cadmus was the first to settle in Continent that was dwell that times by thracians (Greek Theba),
Cadmus son Illyros invade Illyria who was habited by Celts,
Pelasgian culture includes Cyclades, Minoan, Troy, pre Greek, Thyrrenian, Ionic-Athenean, Phillistines, Cyprus cultures,
Pelasgian system was city states, and mainly were Naval people,
there are 3 names of pre-Greeks the Lellekes the Pelasgians and the Driopes
the last the Driopes are considered IE
Pelasgian Gods in Greek Thogony
Pontus (sea and bottom) later remained as PUdna Πυδνα in Makedonian and Πυθμεν in Greek
while the IE word is Βυθος Buthos - Bottom
Iapetos the name of Japeth,
Erebos the dark (semitic Erebu, Illyrian Erevet)
Kawir Καβηροι
Hekate Εκατη from Egyptian Ka = soul
Hera from Pelasgian godess Eorda or Arda
Athena from Egyptian Neith
Oceanus Ωκεανος
Carnios Kreios Καρνιος Κριος
Gyges Γυγης Lydian-Anatolian name
Thaleia Θαλεια
etc
Pelasgian toponyms
Parnassus -> from pharm and -issa
Pharm in the Pelasgian ment house Parn
Parnassus means fortified houses
Thera island (warm island) simmilar Thyrrenian or comes from trojer troyan->tower city
other Pelasgian words
neo ναιω = Ι flow, ναιας a ship (remember Noah)
the IE word in Greek is pleo Πλεω flow->plow-> pleo
La the stone
Lavrys -Λαβρυς the hammer to stimulate stones
Labirynth Λαβιρυνθος the stone mine
Etruscan LA-pis
Ζεω and Ζω
Ζεω means I am warm
Zω means I am warm as an alive should be
κωνος the pyramid but also the city
Ko+no+sso = Knossos (minoan city)
Mu +ko+no = Mycenae (1 mu = Homo, the city of Humans?? 2 Mu = ομου together the city where all lived together?) or there was a tribe named My (My-cenae , My-ssian, My-Nians or Mi-noans, Moe-ssians, Ma-kedonians,)
Greek Γοης -Γοησσα (fem) desirable, very pretty, unresistable
Turkish -anat Guzzell Beautifull, fine
Italian Gusto
there are a lot of works that is connecting ancient Illyrian (part of Albanian) with Pelasgian and Homeric (non IE words)
for the Celtic Branch
Alb Mire jam = I am Fine
Eng merry I am (merry christmas etc)
alb mire dita
Eng good day
etc
But the case of Modern Albanian, is more complex,
Dienekes and modern linguistic proved that a major devastasion had happened the last 600 years,
modern Albanians are more Transylvanians
the tribe of Albocense
Maximus of Moessia was the first who found them.
for the record of Gennetics
The source for the I2a seems to be either the Albanization of people from the West Balkans and/or selection, although it would be difficult to see a massive increase in frequency in only five centuries. The I2a-deficiency of the Arbereshe also gives support to the theory that the Albanians are relatively recent arrivals from the northeast;
http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2010/07...eshe-from.html
the above as also the linguistic analysis of Gustav-Mayer, Kaplan Rassuli, as also the Historic events
proves that Albanians are a new nation
Historically Illyria is not found elsewhere after Roman occupation,
later at 1040 we found Arbanites from city of Arbanon (not same with albonopolis)
and state of arber of Progon moving south from Dalmatia, and state of Alba of Anju
Anju were Cumans like Hunyadi and had origin city of Alba Lullia in Romania.
the tribe of albocense from Dacia probably moved the last 600-700 years to Illyria,
The conection of modern Albanians with other is just in written words,
modern Albanian is a SATEM language
while ancient Illyrian were Centum, even
the Messapic that was adopted later in Illyria,
words like Femia are later with messapic, while words like the word for tribe, for relatives is like Greek-Pelasgic Φυλη fili
the word and simmilarity in written forms of speech is from ancient Illyrian that remained in Modern Albanian language, or from latinization of Moessia at Roman occupation time
Albocense were considered Thracians,
Even today Daci/Gaete and south slavic are not yet clear who is the Thracian language,
Georgiev-Duridanov and Rusu still argue about a latin or a slavic form of ancient Thracian,
a language that have left many words also in Greek language, (if latin-Dacian,) or is the IE branch of Greek Language (if slavic origin)
julia be carefull of Albanian Nationalists, they even claim Goliath was Albanian,
Besides Gorani-Torbesi belong to south slavic population,
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Originally Posted by iapetoc
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(I’m a Tosk), but Taranis pretends to know Etruscan better than me 
Of course he is the best linguist (but the dumb Etruscan) of this forum 
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