You are affected by slavery because you get rubbed it in all the time, I think. This is a kind of brainwashing going on, maybe. If people always tell you that you are a victim because your ancestors were, you sooner or later believe it & feel like that.Keeni84 said:I am affected everyday by slavery, and the subsequent racism that followed slavery.
[...]thrown into America through racism and discrimination, without a heritage, culture or homeland? Yeah, and I thought you were enlightened people.
I know my last name. So what? Got it from my step-father. I know my biological father's name, nothing else about his family. My ancestors got a lot of different names of which I know only a tiny fraction.What is my last name?
It's just a legal issue, for this shabby beaurocracy wants me to have a last name. Is it important? No way.
From my mother's lineage I know of some French ancestry. Most ancestors are German. So what? Germany is a rather new country, around 133 years. Before that there were a lot of little fiefdoms, kingdoms & whatever. My hometown once even belonged to France for a short while. There was a Roman Empire of German Nation once. A lot of different tribes, Germanic, Celtic, whatever. Not to mention all those wars with foreign troops who left their trace in the local DNA.What is my country of origin?
Now what is my country of origin?
Obviously from a lot of different places: Africa, Europe, America. Can't be much of one original tongue then, must be more like dozens. Languages change over time anyway.Where do my people come from? What was their original tongue?
What's the original tongue of those "white" US Americans? They don't have one either.
You're considered "black" because there seems to be a need to categorize social groups in simple ways (in my regard too simple). I personally would not consider you negroid though. You're a mongrel, as most "black" US Americans are to some degree(I don't have any statistics at hand now, but that's what I remember).Why was I born with curly black hair and brown skin, my mother red hair and brown eyes, my grandmother blond hair and blue eyes, yet we are all considered "black"?
Here we have the original problem again: time. Why 150 years? Why not 100 or 200, why not 2000?And if you are an ancestor of a slave---not Roman times, but slavery, within the last 150 years---you would know that it really is a BIG DEAL and you WOULD be affected by it.
Nope! You can't hold people responsible for the deeds of their ancestors.sue because my ancestors were slaves of the Romans 2000 years ago? YES if you feel wronged by those actions and NO ONE had done a damn thing to make things right.
If you or your mother suffer under racism, this is not directly related to slavery, but to racist attitudes (which, then again, probably led to slavery). Since racism is illegal you could of course sue those who discriminate against you. Which leads me back to the original topic: suing Lloyds.
Lloyds is an insurance company & cannot be held responsible for what people did (or do) with ships insured by them. That would be only possible if Lloyds knew & condoned that insured ships were involved in illegal activities. At first slave shipping was a legal business, hence Lloyds couldn't be held responsible anyway. After 1807 slave trade became illegal in Britain (from 1827 even considered piracy, punishable by death) Lloyds would probably have committed a crime if they knew that an insured ship was meant to ship slaves.
If the lawyers can prove that this happened they might have a case. But I doubt that this could be brought before modern courts, for probably being time-barred.
BTW, Keeni: Maybe you should read Jeisan's post again.