Tomenable
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Aren't such things detetmined mostly by autosomal DNA rather than HG?
Hunters are less numerous than farmers because they can't sustain such high population density. If an area was favourable for farming then incoming farmers would quickly outnumber local hunters, perhaps in the very moment of entering an area they were already more numerous.
On the other hand many of Mesolithic hunters adopted farming from migrating Neolithic farmers, so by the time of Copper Age immigration of R1 people, there were perhaps not many hunters left because most of I populations had adopted farming before.
It is more mysterious what happened with Neolithic DNA because it seems for example that G haplogroup was once very numerous in some parts of Europe.
In my opinion Neolithic groups, which brought farming with them for the first time, outnumbered Mesolithic peoples in most fertile areas, while in other areas Mesolithic DNA continued to dominate. In some of those areas (moderately fertile ones) they adopted farming from their new Neolithic neighbours, while in other - most difficult to farm - areas, they remained living predominantly as hunters or fishers or whatever.
Later when Copper-Bronze Age R1 groups with superior technology invaded, they were more interested in occupying fertile lands first, lands suitable for animal husbandry, horse-breeding, cattle-breeding, etc. and for farming. So Neolithic groups which had previously occupied most fertile lands now became the main target of new invaders, while Mesolithic groups which had previously remained dominant only in areas of worse quality, now did not feel the pressure of new immigrants as hard as for example people of G haplogroup such as for example famous Oetzi the Iceman (who was probably killed by R1 peoples).
Hunters are less numerous than farmers because they can't sustain such high population density. If an area was favourable for farming then incoming farmers would quickly outnumber local hunters, perhaps in the very moment of entering an area they were already more numerous.
On the other hand many of Mesolithic hunters adopted farming from migrating Neolithic farmers, so by the time of Copper Age immigration of R1 people, there were perhaps not many hunters left because most of I populations had adopted farming before.
It is more mysterious what happened with Neolithic DNA because it seems for example that G haplogroup was once very numerous in some parts of Europe.
In my opinion Neolithic groups, which brought farming with them for the first time, outnumbered Mesolithic peoples in most fertile areas, while in other areas Mesolithic DNA continued to dominate. In some of those areas (moderately fertile ones) they adopted farming from their new Neolithic neighbours, while in other - most difficult to farm - areas, they remained living predominantly as hunters or fishers or whatever.
Later when Copper-Bronze Age R1 groups with superior technology invaded, they were more interested in occupying fertile lands first, lands suitable for animal husbandry, horse-breeding, cattle-breeding, etc. and for farming. So Neolithic groups which had previously occupied most fertile lands now became the main target of new invaders, while Mesolithic groups which had previously remained dominant only in areas of worse quality, now did not feel the pressure of new immigrants as hard as for example people of G haplogroup such as for example famous Oetzi the Iceman (who was probably killed by R1 peoples).