Immigration sexual harassments by immigrants

[epoch]

Epoch, can you handle the truth?
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-19592372

That is why I stated:

The current Swedish rape numbers are skewed by an overly broad definition. However, this article has statistics that are quite old:

 

[LeBrok]

You should have followed the University of Amsterdam link. The clearest example.



It's not the article that is my source, it's the sources they use. And they use Swedish statistics: http://www.pdf-archive.com/2011/05/08/br-1996-2-invandrares-och-invandrares-barns-brottslighet-1/

Article that you cited claimed that rape rose 1,700% since 1970! Disregarding all the recent updates into sex abuse statistics. Now this is a very bad journalism, or rather fear mongering deception.

According to the same logic you are an unreliable source.

how so?

See the uptick in sexual violence in 2013?

It doesn't mean it wasn't a downtick in 2014, 2015, does it? Regardless, can you correlated with increase stream of immigration to Sweden in 2013? Well, through all the years of these stats?

Really. I give you links to university studies, and I am paranoid? Want to refute me? Refute this: http://nl.aup.nl/wosmedia/296/vol_83_no_2_-_zedendelinquentie_en_etniciteit.pdf

Mind you, that ad hominem there goes to show your unreliability.

I don't have time to translate whole thing to see what is going on. At least it is something empirical to base your immigration policy on.


Ad hominem? Read your posts and think about your fear of immigrants.

 

[bicicleur 2]

LeBrok, it is your right to cling to your truth and to put your head in the sand by waiving with all kind of statistics which don't exist.
For me and for the majority of the Europeans it is clear what has happened.
Political correctness has lost a lot of its credibility again, and as long as political correct people keep putting their head in the sand, it will lose more credibiltiy.

 

[epoch]

Article that you cited claimed that rape rose 1,700% since 1970! Disregarding all the recent updates into sex abuse statistics. Now this is a very bad journalism, or rather fear mongering deception.

You again ignore discussing the numbers. In the article are links to two official research papers. Both have numbers on rape and ethnicity.

how so?

You have a clear political correct agenda. That means an enormous bias and possibly the will to deliberately skew the data to become more favorable towards migrants.

It doesn't mean it wasn't a downtick in 2014, 2015, does it? Regardless, can you correlated with increase stream of immigration to Sweden in 2013? Well, through all the years of these stats?

???

I don't have time to translate whole thing to see what is going on.

Go to figure 2.

Ad hominem? Read your posts and think about your fear of immigrants.

You keep suggesting this is all due to fear, phobia and paranoia. That is an attempt to defuse our argument by making us looking unfit to argue, which is the essential part of the "ad hominem" attack.

 

[epoch]

@LeBrok

Epoch, can you handle the truth?

I love the reference to Jack Nickolson in "A Few Good Men", though. However, the issues discussed here are based on reality rather than movies and entertainment.

 

[bicicleur 2]

http://pamelageller.com/2016/01/eye...pular-nightclub-in-germany-on-new-years.html/

more and more stories will pop up
some will be true, some not

but the burden of evidence will be reversed
because the official instances have covered up so many incidents, people will tend to believe every story

something to think about, LeBrok
you're always looking for arguments rather than the trueth
open your mind and free yourself from your fear
if you think everyone that is not political correct is a racist you'll end up isolated
Merkel has allready admitted some things related to immigration are not under controll, why can't you?

 

[epoch]

We don't know how many women complained last year, do we? This year we have many very unhappy Germans with recent influx of immigrants. I'm sure, that among honest reports, there are fake complaints reported by Neo Nazi sympathisers.

This seems to be the latest social justice warrior tactic: Try to convince us that this is simply normal default behaviour, that Europeans do this in a similar fashion. And off course raise doubt on the complaints. Wow. Just wow.

 

[Ike]

something to think about, LeBrok
you're always looking for arguments rather than the trueth
open your mind and free yourself from your fear

He can't. He fears he'll be deported back to Europe. It's his worst nightmare

 

[LeBrok]

LeBrok, it is your right to cling to your truth and to put your head in the sand by waiving with all kind of statistics which don't exist.

Here they are, touch it.
http://www.bra.se/bra/bra-in-english/home/crime-and-statistics.html

For me and for the majority of the Europeans it is clear what has happened.

And for this we have to believe your feelings and anecdotes. Or perhaps the solution is in selecting the right immigrants and not to see them all as one mass.

Political correctness has lost a lot of its credibility again, and as long as political correct people keep putting their head in the sand, it will lose more credibiltiy.

Yes, especially for these asocial rednecks like Trump and alike. Enjoy the company.

 

[Tyler Danann]

Basically if you are legally able buy or equip self-defense weaponry. It's going to become a fact that attacks on European people will increase as long as softly-hostile policies from their governments continue.

 

[LeBrok]

You again ignore discussing the numbers. In the article are links to two official research papers. Both have numbers on rape and ethnicity.

Link me straight to the numbers next time and not through stupid racist article.

You have a clear political correct agenda. That means an enormous bias and possibly the will to deliberately skew the data to become more favorable towards migrants.

And I'm the one who posts positive and negative material, like the stats above about minorities and crime, or you can check my thread about Kurds and Near East for various points of view. However, your post completely lack positive information about immigrants and is always in derogatory tone about them. The website that you posted was completely devoured of positive articles about Muslims and Arabs.
And I'm the one who is biased?
Give me at least one positive post about immigrants and maybe I will start thinking that perhaps you can be objective if you really try.

???

You are the one who "proves" that crime spiked with more emigrants.

You keep suggesting this is all due to fear, phobia and paranoia. That is an attempt to defuse our argument by making us looking unfit to argue, which is the essential part of the "ad hominem" attack.

Nope, just pointing out your strong emotional state which skews your objectivity.

Let me ask you a question. Are there any type of emigrants you would like to accept in your country, or keep in your country permanently?

 

[Tyler Danann]

This seems to be the latest social justice warrior tactic: Try to convince us that this is simply normal default behaviour, that Europeans do this in a similar fashion. And off course raise doubt on the complaints. Wow. Just wow.

SJWs are the lowest of the low, they were in the shadows until recent times but the double-edged sword of the internet spawns them like a fury.

 

[LeBrok]

http://pamelageller.com/2016/01/eye...pular-nightclub-in-germany-on-new-years.html/

more and more stories will pop up
some will be true, some not

but the burden of evidence will be reversed
because the official instances have covered up so many incidents, people will tend to believe every story

something to think about, LeBrok
you're always looking for arguments rather than the trueth
open your mind and free yourself from your fear
if you think everyone that is not political correct is a racist you'll end up isolated
Merkel has allready admitted some things related to immigration are not under controll, why can't you?

How many times I have to tell you that immigration should be controlled and adequate, and set by host country?!!! Why can't you remember this?
Stop this stupid mantra of yours finally!!! Should I present my posts every time, that you conveniently keep forgetting about, when I criticised EU for lack of initiative and agreements about flow or refugees, about porous Greek borders, lack of processing centers, etc. Why the hell you don't remember!!! Start remembering things or you driving me nuts!

 

[LeBrok]

He can't. He fears he'll be deported back to Europe. It's his worst nightmare

Never crossed my mind. Perhaps you don't have any idea what it is to live in a free country, how it feels to be accepted from day one, how to work together with tolerant people of all races, sexes and religions and to build one of the best country in the world.
And I'm the one living in fear, lol. Watch out Ikea the Nato, capitalists, gays, Albanians, Western Europe Ideas, etc are coming to Serbia, to get you, lol. Yes, I'm the one who is in fear. Convince yourself if it makes you feel better.

 

[LeBrok]

This seems to be the latest social justice warrior tactic: Try to convince us that this is simply normal default behaviour, that Europeans do this in a similar fashion. And off course raise doubt on the complaints. Wow. Just wow.

Come one, one positive thing about immigrants. Convince me that you are objective sometimes.

Don't forget addressing this:

Let me ask you a question. Are there any type of emigrants you would like to accept in your country, or keep in your country permanently?

 

[epoch]

Link me straight to the numbers next time and not through stupid racist article.

Read the things we link. I told you more than once what to retrieve from it. I even linked one of the studies.

And I'm the one who posts positive and negative material, like the stats above about minorities and crime, or you can check my thread about Kurds and Near East for various points of view. However, your post completely lack positive information about immigrants and is always in derogatory tone about them. The website that you posted was completely devoured of positive articles about Muslims and Arabs.
And I'm the one who is biased?

Yes. Social Justice Warrior biased.

Give me at least one positive post about immigrants and maybe I will start thinking that perhaps you can be objective if you really try.

I give you information you asked for: Stats on rape and immigrants. If these are not positive, well I don't care. I simply provide them.

You are the one who "proves" that crime spiked with more emigrants.

???

Nope, just pointing out your strong emotional state which skews your objectivity.

Let me ask you a question. Are there any type of emigrants you would like to accept in your country, or keep in your country permanently?

Not you, if that was what you meant. Furthermore, you keep asking questions, throwing around nonsense statistics (not on rape, for instance), calling people biased and what not. But you skillfully avoid this statistics in the University of Amsterdam paper: http://nl.aup.nl/wosmedia/296/vol_83_no_2_-_zedendelinquentie_en_etniciteit.pdf

Take a look at figure 2.

Lastly: Your world is falling apart LeBrok.

PS: The reason I won't answer your question on what immigrant group I would accept is that you are forcing a pro-migration agenda upon me that way. You can take your agenda somewhere else. Preferable far from Europe.

 

[epoch]

@LeBrok

Nobody believes you and your kind anymore. Governments at this point are manically trying to keep their shit together. But Cologne is a MAJOR game changer. It shows Europe it is not just the extremists that we should worry about.

 

[LeBrok]

Read the things we link. I told you more than once what to retrieve from it. I even linked one of the studies.



Yes. Social Justice Warrior biased.



I give you information you asked for: Stats on rape and immigrants. If these are not positive, well I don't care. I simply provide them.



???



Not you, if that was what you meant. Furthermore, you keep asking questions, throwing around nonsense statistics (not on rape, for instance), calling people biased and what not. But you skillfully avoid this statistics in the University of Amsterdam paper: http://nl.aup.nl/wosmedia/296/vol_83_no_2_-_zedendelinquentie_en_etniciteit.pdf

Take a look at figure 2.

Lastly: Your world is falling apart LeBrok.

Who the heck is "We".

One more thing to show the world true you:

Let me ask you a question. Are there any type of emigrants you would like to accept in your country, or keep in your country permanently?

And maybe something positive about immigrants for objectivity?

 

[epoch]

Who the heck is "We".

Me and others in Eupedia migration threads.

One more thing to show the world true you:


And maybe something positive about immigrants for objectivity?

No. I will not be diverted from what is the issue: http://nl.aup.nl/wosmedia/296/vol_83_no_2_-_zedendelinquentie_en_etniciteit.pdf
Go to figure 2

 

[LeBrok]

Me and others in Eupedia migration threads.

It was only you who linked to any study on this thread. So "We" was exaggeration, right? Unless you became their leader.

No. I will not be diverted from what is the issue: http://nl.aup.nl/wosmedia/296/vol_83_no_2_-_zedendelinquentie_en_etniciteit.pdf

I said before, use this study to select immigrants wisely, didn't I? I can't say more because I would need to read it, but I don't know Dutch and translation is cumbersome for pdf file.

Please, stop avoiding this simple question. Important to establish the base of your views.

"Are there any type of emigrants you would like to accept in your country, or keep in your country permanently?"