What music are you listening to?

[Diurpaneus]

 

[Yetos]

After the destruction of minor Asia and exchange of population at 1923 unemployment was everywhere,
Greeks as naval nation already had moved to America, but was a strange feeling there, church of Ai Nikolas at liberty street was already from 1832, at the heart of Manhattan among the 9/11 twin towers.
but the unemploiment and the conomical problems of a continoued war that started from 1904 Balkan wars and ended at 1923 (19 years) with exchange of population kneeled down South and East balkans and minor Asia,

so Greeks started to seek solution at migrating to 'America',
Elia Kazan had a film about that at 1963
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkqKHapqda4

I have a friend who's origin is from Pontos, when the exchange happened, his grand father's sister, married a USA sailor from Chicago above the ship that brought them from Pontos to Greece,
later at 2004 a story of 700 νυφες nyfe,neve, women to marry, that travel with the same boat from Con/polis to USA, become a movie,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbigR6gRGLU

that created also a reaction, cause it become ethos, common use, until 1935.
Greek and other Balkanic young boys moving to America to make 'dollaria', at the age of 16-18 and at age about 35-40 were asking a bride from their home origin, to make family,
the travel lines were so common that even from Peiraias, Patrai and Thessaloniki ships were traveling to USA,
as you will se at the bellow video link at 2:37 there were even Greek lines straight to Quebec Canada,
All you needed is to stay days outside the USA and Canada embassy and ambassadors to wait your turn for pappers

at 1935 a song was record and published
the music composer was 'Σαλονικιος', (The-Salonique origin) one of the 2 best violin players of that time,
his real name was Δημητριος Σεμσης Dimitris Semsis (Semses) and his origin was from Strumnitsa (Στρωμνιτσα) today Fyrom.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWYu1rZwoR4

I can post 2 videos so I link the official record above

I choose to post the same song as it is recorded with Τσαμπουνα, zampogna in italian, a king of Guida, pipes, Ασκαυλος, that is found at South Italy and Aegean pelagos

so the song is 'Μη με στελνεις μανα, στην Αμερικη'
'Don't send me, mammy, to America'.

from the lyricks,
μην με στελνεις μανα στην Αμερικη,
γιατι θα μαραζωσω και θα πεθανω εκει,

' Dont' send mother to America,
cause I 'll got depress and I will die there'

Δολλαρια δεν θελω πως να σου το πω,
καλια ψωμι κρεμμυδι και αυτον που αγαπω.

' Ι Do n't want dollars, how can I tell you that
better bread and onions and the one I love'

 

[Yetos]

much later at 40-50s a new migration road opened
Australia,
it easier to get pappers, and easier to find work,

the dance rythm is μπαλλος (ballos) a dance commonly at south Aegean pelago.

 

[Yetos]

After Australia a new migration Road opens, it is 'by far' near and work is certain, Deutschland of Antenauer,
from 50's and 60's Germany is absorving not only Greeks, but all South Europeans, Balkans and Turkey youth, but they prefered married couples so the 'brides' is not repeated.

the composer Ακης Πανου Akis Panou was borned at Athens at 1933, and his music is affected by pontian Greeks that were plenty at his neighborhood.

the song is Στο Σταθμο του Μοναχου, ' At Munchen's train station'

the style of song is rempetiko,

Lyricks
'At Munich train station
my 'black fate' tηrew me (forgot me),
my poor missery 'bad fate' mother

beside me a hungry hippy is sleeping
and a drunken 'black'
all the shipwrecks (jetsam) of 'life'

 

[Yetos]

but the most beautifull sonf about migration, I think is from South Italy, at half Italian half Greek,

I do not know who composed it, it is common song at S Italy

it is from Greek TV show

Antra mou paei at Greek means
my husband has gone, went away, but also has the meaning of my husband is lost

wake up women, cause st Bricio day has passed, and we stay alone,
cause our men, one by one they leave us,
come on children and kneel, cause our father has left,
and we pray, to send a little bit of light for us,


much later after 70's become a hit at Greece with a more moarning or protest tone, according performer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xR_AsNq6iKo

that kind of music is conected with moiroloi, moarning songs, as at America had the blues, and in stronger forms used to cry, especially at funerals

 

[Angela]

Wow. Everything is definitely culturally conditioned. That doesn't look anything like the kind of similar dancing with which I'm familiar. No offense, but I don't see anything seductive or charming in that particular male Romanian dancer. Beckoning a girl to the dance floor by crooking a finger at her in that domineering, aggressive way? Grabbing her by the arm and dragging her onto the dance floor? If my father and brothers didn't take care of it, I would have...

Plus, in my opinion, seduction should go both ways, and no touching until the woman has made her choice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kt12m8U39Xw

 

[Angela]

but the most beautifull sonf about migration, I think is from South Italy, at half Italian half Greek,

I do not know who composed it, it is common song at S Italy

it is from Greek TV show

Antra mou paei at Greek means
my husband has gone, went away, but also has the meaning of my husband is lost

wake up women, cause st Bricio day has passed, and we stay alone,
cause our men, one by one they leave us,
come on children and kneel, cause our father has left,
and we pray, to send a little bit of light for us,


much later after 70's become a hit at Greece with a more moarning or protest tone, according performer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xR_AsNq6iKo

that kind of music is conected with moiroloi, moarning songs, as at America had the blues, and in stronger forms used to cry, especially at funerals

This is the version with which I'm familiar:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcFhvsbRqnk

The words and music were written by Franko Corliano. There's more about it here:
https://greeksongstories.wordpress.com/2012/03/10/the-hidden-greece/

I take an interest in this music partly because it's beautiful, and partly because my husband's people only stopped speaking Griko about a hundred and fifty years ago.

 

[Yetos]

This is the version with which I'm familiar:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcFhvsbRqnk

The words and music were written by Franko Corliano. There's more about it here:
https://greeksongstories.wordpress.com/2012/03/10/the-hidden-greece/

I take an interest in this music partly because it's beautiful, and partly because my husband's people only stopped speaking Griko about a hundred and fifty years ago.

Thanks for info,
marinella is fantastic and considered one of the top performers,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xH2ZfgSIVLc
she uses fantastic byzantine music education with moarning songs

Pizzika = kind of peagons right?

one of the most faithfull birds to his pair.

 

[Yetos]

It looks like some Eastern Roman/Byzantine paces,that's my very amateurish opinion.
The style,with its countless variations, probably implies Roman,Greek and Paleo-Balkanic features with a South-Slavic addition.
The Bulgarian dance really rocks,it is very similar to some of ours( esp.the paces);that's no sursprising since it's from a western and mountaineous region.
It's not only about the paces,it's the emotional intensity involved in these extremely fast dances that
really astonishes.


For the Greek,Albanian,Serb,Macedonian,Bulgarian,Romanian, or North-Carpathian peasant,dance was everything,
was more than everything,the hyperbolization of his life,of his community.
This looks like a line,but,it isn't;it's our ethnic DNA.


But I can reach much faster and honest to the source of true: for the Balkanians, dance is more than a drug,
not only that they constantly needed,it has to be fast,intense,improvised,and longlasting.

watch the pace:

PS


I see you're more into opera nowadays.

Bulgarians Irish and Russians made traditional dance to a show, an opera as yopu said.
the video you post is a more like a show than an ordianry wedding or fiesta panigiri dance, like the Russians had once the famous Ballet shows, etc etc

dance is to have fun, and burn the callories from fiesta food, and raise your heart beats, worm up your body, and blood circulation,
well a good dancer sometimes dance to earn the girl, but that mainly at wending dances.
if villagers dance like that then after 1-2 dances they will be dead.

a more simple version of that dance,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czV18fCr_rc

PS
Ζωναραδικος chesto seems like to be a war dance, rather a wedding or a fiesta dance.

 

[Yetos]

and since you like Vlachika (aromanian)

and another one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5z6BMRnaEg
as you will see Aromanian women have mania with blue and purple colours, and old and widowed women wear black
dark red was mostly a colour of difference, a high degree of society,royal ancestry, or an honoured person,
at Thracian and south Slavic girls red was primary colour.

i will post later a video of a known and proud Aromanian village and you will see.

 

[Yetos]

@ diurpaneus,

well I have found something near that i was looking

the village is the homeland of Georgakis Olympios Γεργακης Ολυμπιος, α national hero who died at Ιασιον, Μονη Σεκου, Iasi Seku monastery fighting the Ottomans of Selih pasha.

watch that deep blue,


now a typical woman dress

were did it come from? surely different from all known balkanic

that was the dress of elite class

source
http://olympieskepseis.blogspot.gr/2012/09/blog-post.html

 

[Angela]

For all our mothers on this day:

Because You Loved Me:

 

[Diurpaneus]

Ciuleandra(The Thistle Dance),a dance with roots in the Dionysian Mysteries,one of Andre Rieu's favourites,
the girls dance to be chosen:

It superbly reveals their grace and fragility.


Google Search:thistle fertility

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dionysian_Mysteries

 

[Diurpaneus]

The moves that starts at 2:08 probably mime drunkenness.

 

[Angela]

Handel: The Arrival of the Queen of Sheba

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TGKJ9MgCOQ

 

[Diurpaneus]

Diurpaneus, congratulations.

For me, Carpathian region from Romania to Southern Poland has been fascinating with costumes, dances, musics etc., in the picture Southern Polish dance:


But let's post a much better video:

The freestyle doesn't look that bad,does it?
I definitely enjoy the Vlach ballet that starts at 1:30,powered by opinca,the dancers from Split
could have been engaged in similar movements.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Valerio_-_Musiciens_Morlaques_(Salone),_1864.jpg

 

[Angela]

Diurpaneus, congratulations.

For me, Carpathian region from Romania to Southern Poland has been fascinating with costumes, dances, musics etc., in the picture Southern Polish dance:


But let's post a much better video:

The freestyle doesn't look that bad,does it?
I definitely enjoy the Vlach ballet that starts at 1:30,powered by opinca,the dancers from Split
could have been engaged in similar movements.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Valerio_-_Musiciens_Morlaques_(Salone),_1864.jpg

It occurred to me that people might more easily be able to find videos of this kind of folk music if you started a thread in the European music section. There's already one there for Italian folk music, and it would be a welcome addition. Just a suggestion.

 

[Yetos]

Diurpaneus, congratulations.

For me, Carpathian region from Romania to Southern Poland has been fascinating with costumes, dances, musics etc., in the picture Southern Polish dance:


But let's post a much better video:

The freestyle doesn't look that bad,does it?
I definitely enjoy the Vlach ballet that starts at 1:30,powered by opinca,the dancers from Split
could have been engaged in similar movements.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Valerio_-_Musiciens_Morlaques_(Salone),_1864.jpg

I wonder as watching the video if i was watching Balkanic music, or Irish dancers,

 

[Angela]

We're All Alone: Rita Coolidge

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj7l0GAkZcs

 

[LeBrok]

I wonder as watching the video if i was watching Balkanic music, or Irish dancers,

Perhaps it is connected with old Europe or IEs who might have spread from Easter Europe. Here is a look at spanish 16 century fashion. White shirt, vest and surprisingly similar hat.

Or this Basque folk couple could be placed somewhere in Balkans?