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- North Alpine Italian
- Y-DNA haplogroup
- T1a2 -Z19945..Jura
- mtDNA haplogroup
- H95a1 ..Pannoni
I have no doubt Albanians are largely descended from Illyrians, at least paternally(E-V13/J2b2/some R1b). Linguistically there is very little evidence for or against the connection, so until further evidence surfaces, its just going to be more of the same bs theories. I think even if there was linguistic evidence that surfaced, many neighbors would deny it for the sheer fact we are Albanians. When someone brings themselves to hate a thing, they will be too blind to see the lies they perpetuate. Its human. If people do not know how to organize their hate, and not let it overcome their decision making, they tend to run with pure desire and agenda. Even with the evidence that genetically Albanians are largely natives, whether the language is Illyrian or not, you still see people trying to deny the truth.
It depends on what the original carriers of this branch called themselves. Though, as mentioned prior, Proto-Croats are not ethnically, culturally and patrilineally the same as Modern Croats. I agree when you say(assuming it is mostly common among Croats) that Croatians themselves descend from these proto-Croatians. But, to say all with this branch are specifically Croatian would be incorrect, at least from a wording point of view. I would imagine if other Balkan peoples with this branch come directly from Modern Croatian peoples, that they should have a younger TMRCA related to this connection. However, if their TMRCA match that of the older movements of that clade, then the proper statement would be that Balkan peoples with I-S17250 are descended from Proto-Croats, rather than more recent middle age Croatians. For example, if an I2a slav only became Greek 200 years ago, then his TMRCA and mutations should reflect the shift. However, if his TMRCA dates back to the inception of the line, then it would be more appropriate to assign it to Proto-Croats. The oldest to carry this mutation was discovered in a medieval slav from Poland is this correct? Assuming this branch is part of I2-Din. If that is the same sample, then, given current evidence, I would agree with you considering where the branch was discovered.
You need to start reading about Noricum and the original homeland of the illyrians
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noricum
Halstatt culture is also based on a celtic people mixing from south-germany and illyrian people from East-Austria.............Halstatt means salt town, with Hal meaning salt in Illyrian and statt meaning town in celtic ( the germans changed statt to stadt for town later on ).
Dalmatians migrated from noricum to the adriatic as noted by historians
Albanians are more linked genetically with greeks and Etruscans ( tuscans ), they do not have any genetic link with central europe unless you can provide info

