(NEW) GenePlaza K12 Ancient Calculator Results

[Jovialis]

My Western European and Scandinavian Hunter Gatherer (4000-5000 years):
5.8%

Thanks for verifying that. You did v4 too, right?

The Rest is very similar to Jovalis.

Again thank you, I was getting pretty disappointed since I've been waiting for a while to do this test. I'm glad to see we are once again similar.

 

[Salento]

Thanks for verifying that. You did v4 too, right?

Yes, but I only have part of data because I deleted the Geneplaza account. Wasn’t sure it was a real thing.
That’s all I can find:

 

[Jovialis]

Yes, but I only have part of data because I deleted the Geneplaza account. Wasn’t sure it was a real thing.
That’s all I can find:

I guess there isn't much discrepancy between v4 and v5 after all in regards to this calculator.

 

[Salento]

I guess there isn't much discrepancy between v4 and v5 after all.

That’s not even half of data, sorry.
I wouldn’t conclude yet that there aren’t discrepancies between the chips.

 

[Jovialis]

That’s not even half of data, sorry.
I wouldn’t conclude yet that there aren’t discrepancies between the chips.

True, maybe not by sub-structures, but at least we know the Western & Scandinavian Hunter-Gatherer part isn't bogus.

 

[Jovialis]

@Davef

https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threa...ncestry-Composition/page7?p=523128#post523128

Without you even adding context as to what you mean makes it even worse than the first time you said it.

 

[davef]

@Davef

https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threa...ncestry-Composition/page7?p=523128#post523128

Without you even adding context as to what you mean makes it even worse than the first time you said it.

Oh..uh...whooops!!! :ashamed2::embarassed::dunce:

That was my adhd induced low impulse control at play!

i tend to forget that posting on this site should be approached a bit differently than sending a
quick and nasty text to one of my friends...

 

[tremainekamal]

My results

(Ancestry DNA)

AFRICAN 83.2%
EAST AFRICAN (modern)16.0%
WEST AFRICAN (modern)67.2%

STEPPE CULTURES 5.9%
KARASUK-E SCYTHIAN (2000-3000 years)0.0%
ANDRONOVO-SRUBNAYA (3000-4000 years)5.9%
YAMNAYA-AFANASIEVO-POLTAVKA (4000-5000 years)0.0%

ANCIENT FARMERS 4.9%
WEST EUROPEAN FARMERS (4000-5000 years)1.4%
LEVANT (4000-8000 years)3.4%
NEOLITHIC-CHALCOLITHIC IRAN-CHG (5000-12000 years)0.0%
EAST EUROPEAN FARMERS (5000-8000 years)0.0%

WESTERN EUROPEAN & SCANDINAVIAN HUNTER GATHERERS (4000-5000 years) 4.0%

SOUTHEAST EURASIAN 2.0%

EASTERN NON AFRICANS (modern) 0%

 

[Johane Derite]

My results ( LivingDNA ):

 

[Promenade]

• • ANCIENT FARMERS
    51.6%​
    • WEST EUROPEAN FARMERS (4000-5000 years) 21.9%
      
      21.9%​
    • LEVANT (4000-8000 years) 3.3%
      
      3.3%​
    • NEOLITHIC-CHALCOLITHIC IRAN-CHG (5000-12000 years) 5%
      
      5.0%​
    • EAST EUROPEAN FARMERS (5000-8000 years) 21.5%
      
      21.5%​
• STEPPE CULTURES
  34.0%​
  • KARASUK-E SCYTHIAN (2000-3000 years) 10.8%
    
    10.8%​
  • ANDRONOVO-SRUBNAYA (3000-4000 years) 14.8%
    
    14.8%​
  • YAMNAYA-AFANASIEVO-POLTAVKA (4000-5000 years) 8.4%
    
    8.4%​
• 34.0%​
• WESTERN EUROPEAN & SCANDINAVIAN HUNTER GATHERERS (4000-5000 years) 13.7%
  
  13.7%​
• EASTERN NON AFRICANS (modern) .7%
  
  0.7%​
• AFRICAN
  0.0%​
• SOUTHEAST EURASIAN
  0.0%​

 

[Angela]

My results ( LivingDNA ):

Here are Dibran's for comparison. Overall numbers are similar, but there are definitely some differences. Are you different kinds of Albanians? I believe he is Gheg, yes? If you are Tosk, then wouldn't this be the first time that differences have surfaced in terms of autosomal? I wonder, though, if the results would be different if you had used 23andme.

Another thing is that the patterns remain in that people from the Balkans have more Levant Neo and Iran ancestry than I do. Whatever hit the Balkans and southern Italy had less effect on Italy from Tuscany north.

ANCIENT FARMERS 74.8%
WEST EUROPEAN FARMERS (4000-5000 years)31.2%
LEVANT (4000-8000 years)4.2%
NEOLITHIC-CHALCOLITHIC IRAN-CHG (5000-12000 years)5.4%
EAST EUROPEAN FARMERS (5000-8000 years)34%

STEPPE CULTURES 25.1%

• KARASUK-E SCYTHIAN (2000-3000 years)7%

• ANDRONOVO-SRUBNAYA (3000-4000 years)10.6%
• YAMNAYA-AFANASIEVO-POLTAVKA (4000-5000 years)7.6%

0.1% results African

 

[Johane Derite]

Here are Dibran's for comparison. Overall numbers are similar, but there are definitely some differences. Are you different kinds of Albanians? I believe he is Gheg, yes? If you are Tosk, then wouldn't this be the first time that differences have surfaced in terms of autosomal? I wonder, though, if the results would be different if you had used 23andme.

Another thing is that the patterns remain in that people from the Balkans have more Levant Neo and Iran ancestry than I do. Whatever hit the Balkans and southern Italy had less effect on Italy from Tuscany north.

I have no known Tosk heritage on any side of the family, they are all Ghegs from Prishtina region of Kosovo reaching even up to Nis Valley territories.. Dibran is half Tosk half Gheg if i'm not mistaken.

 

[Angela]

I have no known Tosk heritage on any side of the family, they are all Ghegs from Prishtina region of Kosovo reaching even up to Nis Valley territories.. Dibran is half Tosk half Gheg if i'm not mistaken.

So, perhaps full Ghegs versus half Tosk/half Ghegs have less ancient farmer overall (but a bit more Levant and Iran Chl), and less steppe as well, but they have WHG/SHG, which perhaps Tosks do not.

 

[Johane Derite]

So, perhaps full Ghegs versus half Tosk/half Ghegs have less ancient farmer overall (but a bit more Levant and Iran Chl), and less steppe as well, but they have WHG/SHG, which perhaps Tosks do not.

Very interesting, I would be curious to see other gheg vs tosks and also try with another company maybe to see if there is a discrepancy

 

[Angela]

Very interesting, I would be curious to see other gheg vs tosks and also try with another company maybe to see if there is a discrepancy

Yes, you'd need a lot more "pure" samples to draw any kind of even quasi reasonable conclusions. Also, the same raw data source would be important.

From results like this I can see why Albanians look like eastern shifted Tuscans.

 

[Johane Derite]

Yes, you'd need a lot more "pure" samples to draw any kind of even quasi reasonable conclusions. Also, the same raw data source would be important.

From results like this I can see why Albanians look like eastern shifted Tuscans.

Very interesting and exciting.

Are there any Tuscans on this thread / forum? What did k12 show for them? I'm guessing less iran/levant more steppe?

 

[Angela]

Very interesting and exciting.

Are there any Tuscans on this thread / forum? What did k12 show for them? I'm guessing less iran/levant more steppe?

Unfortunately not. I'm only about 1/4 Northwest Tuscan. The rest is 1/4 Eastern Ligurian (although that may not be that different from far northwest Tuscans) and 1/2 Northern Italian. Maybe one of the other Italian posters can find one.

You should see if you can find some "pure" Tosks, too.

You ideally need about five samples from the same area to get reliable autosomal averages.

 

[Johane Derite]

Unfortunately not. I'm only about 1/4 Northwest Tuscan. The rest is 1/4 Eastern Ligurian (although that may not be that different from far northwest Tuscans) and 1/2 Northern Italian. Maybe one of the other Italian posters can find one.

You should see if you can find some "pure" Tosks, too.

You ideally need about five samples from the same area to get reliable autosomal averages.

I'll try my best

 

[albannach]

Here's my results. Surprised at how high the Scythian and Andronovo is and how low the Yamnaya and WHG is. Will be interesting to see how I compare to other Scots and Irish.

ANCIENT FARMERS 46.1%
WEST EUROPEAN FARMERS (4000-5000 years) 14.3%
LEVANT (4000-8000 years)2.9%
NEOLITHIC-CHALCOLITHIC IRAN-CHG (5000-12000 years) 0.0%
EAST EUROPEAN FARMERS (5000-8000 years) 28.9%

STEPPE CULTURES 38.1%
KARASUK-E SCYTHIAN (2000-3000 years) 10.3%
ANDRONOVO-SRUBNAYA (3000-4000 years) 18.7%
YAMNAYA-AFANASIEVO-POLTAVKA (4000-5000 years) 9.1%

WESTERN EUROPEAN & SCANDINAVIAN HUNTER GATHERERS (4000-5000 years) 15.8%

 

[hramsa]

Tested with Living DNA, ancestry roughly 75% English, 25% mostly Scottish + some Irish

Ancient Farmers 54.7

West European Farmers 16.8​

Levant 3.9​

Neolithic-Chalolithic Iran-CHG 4​

East European Farmers 30
​

Steppe Cultures 33.5

Karasuk-E Scythian 6.6
Andronovo-Srubnaya 15.4
Yamnaya-Afanasievo-Poltavka 11.6
​

Western European & Scandianavian HGs 11.7