Archetype0ne
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Neither Z2705 or J2b-ph1751 were present in Albania during the Romans.
It's clear that they came much later. The People that came to Albanian had Both those patrimonial lineages and none of the rest found in Albania and were the forefathers of the Ghegs. Now whether they were Illirian speakers or spoke some other language we cant say for sure, but the Absence of all the haplogroups that are found across the Adriatic coast, tells us that they were probably from out of that region too, or very very very isolated.
From the data of the Albanian Y-dna project seems that even in South Albania the carriers of those 2 lineages are mostly Muslims which would explain the presence of those lineages in south Albania too. They were probably the result of the Ottoman garrisons in the region that arrived from the north and would eventually become the ruling class of the Pashalik of Yannina. Being the Richest and most powerful Pashalik it would atract all sort of Merceneries in the next 150 years and most certainly Muslim Ghegs that would further increase the presence of those two haplogroups in the region. Ali Pasha was notorious for employing in his armies a myriad of different elements. Almost all Greek revolutionary leaders served in his courts as Armatoloi, including many Suliots (in his last days). French, Vlachs, Christian, Muslims, Tosk and Ghegs all served in his armies, but the main bulk of his forces were the Turcalbanians and those being Muslims had high presence of Ghegs mercenaries.Additional Gheg Mercenaries would resettle in the Pashalik of Yannina with the Greek revolution and the EArlier destruction of the Turcalbanians of Peloponnese from the father of the main military leader of the Greek revolution, Kolokotronis. Those that survived left Peloponnese with their families. Turkalbanians were send and settled in Peloponnese by the ottomans to pacify the region and prevent a new Venetian funded and armed revolt. It was a standard and favored practice of the Ottomans to use Muslim Albanian Mameluks/Mercenaries as Soldiers after Ottomans abandoned(out of fear of European interventions) the child harvesting and the forceful enslavement of Christians to serve as soldiers.
lol...
Do a DNA test man... since you are so interested in genetics, I am surprised 4 years in this site you still haven't tested yourself.
Also, read a paper or two before you write such nonsense, you are shaming your flag.