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And how exactly do we know that ?
I'm not talking about Thracian or Illyrian names, but non-Thracian and non-Illyrian names in Dardania which have no parallels. Also the Albanoi carried unusual names, clearly non-Illyrian, one Thracoid (very similar) and likely Brygian.
Both are possible. Also Late Antiquity arrival of Thracian V13's.
The Mediana culture usually associated with the original Dardanians, possibly Dardanians of Troy had a MBA continuity, but it also did receive a group of conservative Gava people which kept to themselves. This was before the Psenicevo proto-Thracian migrants. Balkan Thracian E is very Southern shifted, while the LBA E, likely Gava, has much more Steppe (EBA E also). These migrants could have been of that pre-Southern autosomal E variety, some distant relatives of Thracians. So Albanians could derive of MBA locals, likely Z2103, but V13 shouldn't be excluded. If the Beskidi are PA related (some authors say they are Latin), Carpathians though look to be related with Albanian karpë.
ofc these Gavans could have carried also J2a etc.
https://www.yfull.com/tree/J-Y17946/
BR2 Kyjatice sample is distantly related to one Albanian. This upper Romanian is a German, but the bottom Romanian might be Romanian.
But if Albanians have some old Gava pre EIA Balkan ancestry, maybe the FGC11450 clades are the best candidates.
Even Mucat of Albanoi being a distant cousin of many Thracian Muca's cannot be excluded. But Shtip, Nish and apparently some possible Illyrian Dardanian dialect influence from 6th-7th century AD on Albanian pull away from the Albanoi, combined with the etymological situation in Albania.
Kukes sample fits the Komani time frame. Let's agree to disagree on the linguistic affiliation of Kruja-Komani. The other two are self explanatory.
Na bej nje permbledhje te shkurter te ketyre accounteve shqipfoles qe cojne uje tjeterkund, te lutem:
1. Cilet jane nga grupi i Hogdes
2. Cilet jane nga grupi pro-grek
3. Cilet jane nga grupi pro-serb
Te kemi nje ide se eshte shume e veshtire me ndjek fillin per nje user te ri...
PS: inbox message could do well also
Posts as these and the multiple anti social skills of yours manifested in insulting others and using those insults as arguments pretty much sums up all of your posts here.
A kane qene ndonjehere ne Kukes keta qypa? A e kane pare nga afer profilin e nje kuksiani nga Shtiqni, Bicaj apo Kolshi?
Those people skulls are frozen in time. Bjonde, me sy blu dhe koken e madhe. Kuksianet origjinale jane the real deal.
Kush po strengthen his point? Pse cfare ishin ata qe erdhen para 5000 vitesh nga Ukraina? Te duket se ishin me ngjyre kafe dhe me floke te zinj. Shumica absolute ishin R1b dhe J2b, ku R1b ke gjysmen e Evropes Veriore, njeri me bjond se tjetri dhe me shumicen me sy blu. Me pas te gjithe ndikimet romake, osmane e te gjitha llojet e tjera te ndikimeve, plus vete ndikimin e klimes ne 5 mijevjecare i ka bere me te rralle bjondet dhe syte blu ne keto troje.Nje popull mesdhetar sic jemi ne shqiptaret ku ne pergjithesi dominon ngjyra kafe per nga floket dhe syte, duhet te i marrim disa bjonde Kuksian si dhe ‘real deal’. If anything, you’re strengthening his point lol
Who’s fake account are you that you couldn’t post such rubbish under your real profile?
Po de, se ti ja u ke majt qirin atyne para 5000 vjeteve - kah i kane ra dajres.Kush po strengthen his point? Pse cfare ishin ata qe erdhen para 5000 vitesh nga Ukraina? Te duket se ishin me ngjyre kafe dhe me floke te zinj. Shumica absolute ishin R1b dhe J2b, ku R1b ke gjysmen e Evropes Veriore, njeri me bjond se tjetri dhe me shumicen me sy blu. Me pas te gjithe ndikimet romake, osmane e te gjitha llojet e tjera te ndikimeve, plus vete ndikimin e klimes ne 5 mijevjecare i ka bere me te rralle bjondet dhe syte blu ne keto troje.
As kaq gje nuk arrini me kuptu...
On this occasion, special attention is given to the Tomb of the Warriors (Tomb 1) in which 6 warriors were buried together with their complete military armor. The tomb (dimensions: 5.50 x 4.50 m) was built with a row of larger limestone blocks, and after the cremation burial it was filled with amorphous stones and earth, shaping a low mound-like structure. The pyre was set in the central part of the tomb, and around it, embedded and arranged in a specially brought lake sand, were the military attributes: 6 bronze helmets, 11 greaves, and 15 iron spears, with features suggesting some military subordination or simply warriors who have died in a battle being “the Leader and his comrades.”
https://pebasite.wordpress.com/peba-2020/representations-of-power-an-ancient-macedonian-elite/
It looks like among Southern Illyrians we should expect to find R1b-Z2103 and J2a descended from Matt-Painted Pottery Culture, those 2 samples from Plaosnik Ohrid should reflect that. But, were they the original Enchelei, the burial described by Pasko Kuzman among Enchelei/Sessarethi looks alien to Matt-Painted Pottery Culture.
I would like to get classical age samples to see whether the Balkan-Danubian influence on Devoll classiffied as Kanellure was real, and whether E-V13 shows up.
Wtf is the "proper Albanian time frame"? The whole point is to show continuity from the Bronze Age to Iron Age to Antiquity to Medieval/Post-Medieval.
All these samples cluster close to modern Albanians.
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