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qh777 said:
Finnish can be explained through some interaction between Scandinavia. I mean I can't blame the Scandinavian guys marrying some Finnish girls haha. You should look up the former prime minister of Finland Sanna Marin. She's quite a good-looking lady.
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Absolutely. Finland is amazing, and Karelia, all of the different groups, the Veps, and so on.

Yet it is again (for my own understanding) a complex case of what Finnish is, distinct from Baltic. Thankfully Myheritage has about all of Finland on it, so even with 2% Finnish + 5% Baltic they told me the region. (Which surprisingly coincides with Eurogenes.) And with my number of matches ~50, it seems 2% from Finland itself is a fair estimate.

Really it is my most lovely branch. For merely 12% of my DNA it is despite, definitely who I mean if I say in-person, "my family"

It's all still a work in progress. Trying to find a specific town in Lapland or Norrland where they may have lived before migrating. If this is really where.

For some of my own ideas, I feel there is sufficient proof. However to accurately attribute snps at a smaller level, a better test than mh would be necessary. Perhaps the update in January will decode the massively vague Baltic
 
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ssha_cha7 said:
Perhaps the update in January will decode the massively vague Baltic
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MyHeritage doing an ethnicity estimate update in January?
 
Hopefully quite a good one. There was the v2.0 trial which, as you probably know, was a small batch and wasn't well regarded.

Those same people recently received v2.5 and it is very well received, competitive with Ancestry and 23&me.

If you happened to have received v2.0, you would also probably have v2.5. However some of the earliest uploads may not work. I'm not certain, due to the chip.
 
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Albanian here.....​



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Closest Ancient Samples​


Post-Medieval Albanian​

2.443

South Illyrian​

3.026

Post-Medieval Greek Mainlander (Roopkund)​

3.056

Paeonian​

3.112

Roman Pannonian​

3.233

Roman Moesian​

3.235

Roman Dalmatian​

3.449

North Illyrian​

3.496

Medieval Albanian​

3.650

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ssha_cha7 said:
Hopefully quite a good one. There was the v2.0 trial which, as you probably know, was a small batch and wasn't well regarded.

So those same people recently received v2.5 and it is very well received, competitive with Ancestry and 23&me.

If you happened to have received v2.0, you would also probably have v2.5. However some of the earliest uploads may not work. I'm not certain, due to the chip.
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I wasn't aware of that. I'll look forward to seeing the new estimate from the test I took from them.
 
Jupiter said:

Albanian here.....​



​

Closest Ancient Samples​


Post-Medieval Albanian​

2.443

South Illyrian​

3.026

Post-Medieval Greek Mainlander (Roopkund)​

3.056

Paeonian​

3.112

Roman Pannonian​

3.233

Roman Moesian​

3.235

Roman Dalmatian​

3.449

North Illyrian​

3.496

Medieval Albanian​

3.650

​

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What do you think of your results? Have they changed for the better since the update?
 
qh777 said:
What do you think of your results? Have they changed for the better since the update?
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Not much. I used g25 simulated before, now with raw data from ftdna not that much has changed, the simulated simply gave me a closer distance (distance of around 2 compared to now 3 which isn't much at all). I don't remember all my results before update but for ancient populations there is not much difference.
 
Here's a whole variety. Hopefully these are them. The first image should have the top two or so two-way and three-way however here are some ones that seemed interesting. The Frissians especially seem a neat group

https://imgur.com/a/jfU2roE
 
The 5% Albanian and 8% Doclea models correspond well with the MH 5% Balkan but are probably from multiple sources and rather ancient. Caught my eye with the recent Albanian post. Perhaps something like Illyrian assimilated.

Or probably mistaken genetic overlap on MH's part. The matches simply do not substantiate anything remotely close.

Or it may have a Bavarian or Austrian origin. 300 matches between Germany and Austria. One Bavarian branch looks "Italian" but they could be rather Balkan.

Anyway it goes on forever. Hopefully I can take a rest from the dna research ☺️
 
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ssha_cha7 said:
The 5% Albanian and 8% Doclea models correspond well with the MH 5% Balkan but are probably from multiple sources and rather ancient. Caught my eye with the recent Albanian post. Perhaps something like Illyrian assimilated.

Or probably mistaken genetic overlap on MH's part. The matches simply do not substantiate anything remotely close.

Or it may have a Bavarian or Austrian origin. 300 matches between Germany and Austria. One Bavarian branch looks "Italian" but they could be rather Balkan.

Anyway it goes on forever. Hopefully I can take a rest from the dna research ☺️
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Do you get any results in the 2-way or 3-way in the Iron Age onwards that assign this central Asian admixture you have been looking for?
 
qh777 said:
One thing I was hoping for was that Illustrative would produce new G25 coordinates for the update. So far all I have to download are unscaled.

Edit: Just read this from Reddit.

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He removed his own post, it seems it was from here:

eurogenes.blogspot.com

The PIE homeland controversy: December 2024 open thread

It seems like we're getting close to the moment when Iosif Lazaridis has to finally admit that the Proto-Indo-European (PIE) homeland was lo...
eurogenes.blogspot.com eurogenes.blogspot.com

There’s something fishy here.
 
Apparently this is false information:

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Then what is the new system?
 
qh777 said:
Apparently this is false information:

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Then what is the new system?
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I think just IllustrativeDNA don't want to lose customers or potential customers, so they aren't going to tell the truth, this is a scammer's behavior tbh.
 
qh777 said:
Do you get any results in the 2-way or 3-way in the Iron Age onwards that assign this central Asian admixture you have been looking for?
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Nothing 🥺 There are a few theories. At any rate whatever is in my file, which is seen by Dodecad 7b, read as Chuvash and so on, is in the unscaled coordinates but not really in the scaled coordinates. Unless it is reading Finnish as Buryat. There are definitely a number of "Siberian" SNPs which depending on the model and overlap could read as so many things. But I tried on Chebyshev and even after allocation to Finnic groups the Mongolic aspects remained.

Basically my attempt is presently to leverage matches who used 23andMe and share matches of interest. To see if it's a theory worth exploring more.

I've even recognized East Asian SNPs (distinct from Siberian) and found a Polish match who shares SNPs on the same chromosome. And sent an email.

As a backup theory, there isn't one yet. Basically that it is lost to time. Any given Central Asian invasion passed along. Really do not think there is much of a Scythian story here.

As the Lipka theory stands by I need to read more about the r1a development of Sintasha, Scythians, Turks, and so on
 
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Updated IllustrativeDNA Modern Europe PCA:

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