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The Kilinc PCA is very interesting in this regard.
See:
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If the epipaleolithic sample is from around Boncuklu, you can see how Tepecik is already pulled both south and toward CHG/Iran Neo type populations. Here, Kumtepe from near the future site of Troy, and Barcin, are slightly "south" (some Levant Neo coming in?), but not pulled as much towards Iran*. Did that Iran Neo like ancestry in the southern areas like Tepecik come perhaps from Mesopotamia area populations?
Do the dates support this?
It will be interesting to see the analysis in this upcoming paper.
For my own pet interests, interesting to me how Sicily and Southern Italy sort of nestle in between Boncuklu and Tepecik. Remedello is really not all that far from Northern Italy today, but what migrations produced that result I'm waiting for more ancient dna to answer.
In this PCA, also, Otzi is NOT pulled more toward CHG/Iran Neo than samples like the Hungarian Neolithic.
One last thing occurs to me. For all that the emphasis is always on the fact that the EEF were descended from the Anatolian Neolithic, they are closer to modern Levantine populations like the Lebanese than they are to the Turks. Of course, that Central Asian ancestry in the Turks may have something to do with that.
Anyone have the data on the Greek Neolithic handy? Weren't they more "south" as well of populations like Boncuklu, or am I misremembering?
Quoting you, Angela:
"For my own pet interests, interesting to me how Sicily and Southern Italy sort of nestle in between Boncuklu and Tepecik. Remedello is really not all that far from Northern Italy today, but what migrations produced that result I'm waiting for more ancient dna to answer."
I was going to point that out myself!!!!! In fact southern Italy and Sicily are the closest modern populations to Boncuklu, and Barcin (plus some of the Tepeciks). That's really cool!
edit: hopefully I'm not reading this thing wrong, the faded out blurry symbols are hard to see
Anyone have the data on the Greek Neolithic handy? Weren't they more "south" as well of populations like Boncuklu, or am I misremembering?
No specific data, but two PCAs (one academic, one amateur):
So yes, they do appear to be south of Boncuklu and closer to Teplicek and Barcin.
Ted Kendall thinks the 15 ka is from Direkli cave, that would be to the southeast of Tepecik, and Asikli Hoyuk.
http://www.megalithic.co.uk/article.php?sid=23816
And there seems to be also Levantine PPN DNA :
'Ted Kandell :
'Eva, are these remains of the Epipaleolithic hunter-gatherer from Direkli Cave, and from Aşıklı Höyük? Are the Levantines from Tell Halula, Tell Ramad, and Kfar HaHoresh?'
Asikli Hoyuk is the oldest PPN settlement in Capadocia, when it was abondonned, Catal Hoyuk was founded 150 km further west with very similar architecture.
P.S. the mother Godess in Direkli cave is 16 ka, predates agriculture by far, it is HG
omrak 2016 :
Y-DNA was G2a and one C1a2
I had never noticed this C1a2. That could have come from Europe via Epigravettian or Magdalenian contacts, or maybe even earlier. The mtDNA looks completely local however.
Gravettian in the Karain or Okuzuni caves, west of Antalya.
Maybe a LGM refuge
http://maajournal.com/Issues/2004/Vol-1/Full1.pdf
Thanks. Have any academics modeled whether Greek Neolithic works for Mycenaeans?
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