Tabaccus Maximus
Tabaccus Maximus
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- Ethnic group
- Galo-Germanic Atlantic Fringe
- Y-DNA haplogroup
- R1b - SRY 2627
- mtDNA haplogroup
- H1a
The 24,000 year old Mal'ta mammoth hunter encampment is rumored to show individuals to belonging to y-chromosomal haplogroup R* (no additional details) and mtdna haplogroup U*. The Afontova Gora individuals from roughly the same time also appear to have the same profile. Dienekes has posted:
http://dienekes.blogspot.jp/2013/10/paleoamericanodyssey-tweets-on-24000.html
It seems my post on R* and Q* (P-M45) Siberian connections was timely, coming just a few days before the PaleoAmerican Conference, here on Eupedia.
http://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/29167-Haplogroup-P-M45-link-to-Mound-Building
There are some especially interesting things about the discovery. One is the apparent lack of any sort of East Asian admixture in the Mal'ta or Afontova individuals, but people who had typical "Mongoloid" features and dark skin.
This raises several questions about the Mal'ta individuals:
1. What kind of R*, or is it even R* and not P-M45 or Q*? Is it R1*, R2*?
2. Are the Mal'taian or Afontova hunters related to hunters in Europe? There are striking similarities, also big differences.
3. Are Native Americans racially a combined mixture of nomadic West Asian mammoth hunters and East Asians?
4. And/or are Europeans a mixture of a Mongoloid R* and Caucusian women (U*, H* and T*)
5. Did R* belong to a completely different race (say R/Q* + X) and mixed with East Asians and Caucasians producing Amerindians and Europeans, respectively?
We will be talking about this for a long time! Big, exciting news.
http://dienekes.blogspot.jp/2013/10/paleoamericanodyssey-tweets-on-24000.html
It seems my post on R* and Q* (P-M45) Siberian connections was timely, coming just a few days before the PaleoAmerican Conference, here on Eupedia.
http://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/29167-Haplogroup-P-M45-link-to-Mound-Building
There are some especially interesting things about the discovery. One is the apparent lack of any sort of East Asian admixture in the Mal'ta or Afontova individuals, but people who had typical "Mongoloid" features and dark skin.
This raises several questions about the Mal'ta individuals:
1. What kind of R*, or is it even R* and not P-M45 or Q*? Is it R1*, R2*?
2. Are the Mal'taian or Afontova hunters related to hunters in Europe? There are striking similarities, also big differences.
3. Are Native Americans racially a combined mixture of nomadic West Asian mammoth hunters and East Asians?
4. And/or are Europeans a mixture of a Mongoloid R* and Caucusian women (U*, H* and T*)
5. Did R* belong to a completely different race (say R/Q* + X) and mixed with East Asians and Caucasians producing Amerindians and Europeans, respectively?
We will be talking about this for a long time! Big, exciting news.