no , I wanted to say that R1b and J2 in crete are not "greek " but NE itlay, meaning , by just saying R!b everyone thinks its identical to R1b on the greek mainland , same with J2
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infact J2 is not NE Italian,
we find it also in Makedonia,
the Bottiaians same J from Crete we find in Greek makedonia and is far ancient, before the begining of Makedonians,
and in Syrria due to colonization by Minoans,
That J2 in crete makedonia and rest of Greeks which also can be found in Pontic Greeks (not same but very close)
IS THE PROVE OF THE HATTIANS the pelasgians, the Hath-Cretans or Eteo-cretans
and indeed that R1b you talk about exist in Makedonia Greece,
while the Chania R1b is different,
remember that Crete had
enetocracy and that allows the existance of some venetic,
but that R1b exist also in Northern Greece,
a possible colonization from venice is accepted to the small numbers that exist every where venice occupied Greek lands, possibly exist and not found and in some other areas like 7 ionic Islands or some Aegean,
Remember that crete was given to Monferat who sold them to others and Kept thessaloniki
so some families, could moved there, as in many other areas,
the ones that live in plateau are typical,
I like crete very much and have friends there,
with a sharp eye you can find them easy
a more search to Enetic places could find some more places with that R1b, but small numbers, remember that Venice and Genouates were half accepted in the begining, half of them left, but half of them stayed,
better read again about Pelasgians, and Hattians, a non IE caucasoid (J)